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Old 23rd February 2018, 03:43   #25801
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I am more interested in the driver inputs on what happened just before the 180. On what caused the Scorpio to do a very beautiful 180. .
There's an unfortunate guy who lost his life and your query is an extreme irony.
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There's an unfortunate guy who lost his life and your query is an extreme irony.
Cheers mate.
I am taking this as a learning opportunity. If the car did skid outside of control of the driver, then I want to know -a) What caused the skid. b) How an uncontrolled skid caused due to (a) can be corrected, if at all possible.

If it is a deliberate act caused by the driver of the Scorpio, then I just want to know that and would put 100% of the blame of the driver.
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Old 23rd February 2018, 08:21   #25803
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I am also surprised to note - The truck cabin is in good shape, the wind shields are proper. How did the truck driver die?
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He must have hit the steering wheel quite hard during the sudden impact.
Moreover there is no question of seatbelts being present in these type of cabs or being used even if present.
The loaded high slung SUV at 2.5 tonnes has transferred a significant momentum directly to the truck cabin, without sliding under the truck.

Had it been a lower slung car, it would have slid under the rigid truck chassis on impact dissipating some of the forces away from the truck cabin (but catastopic for the car occupants)

From the pics, the truck has suffered lower cabin intrusion possibly dislodging the pedals and the steering column towards the driver apart from a hard impact of the vital areas to the steering wheel.
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Saw this mangled WagonR on my trip to Bettiah. As you can see, the road gently curves. This looks like a case of bad overtaking on a curve. If you look at right lower corner, you can see sugarcane. It was on a tractor trolley which was damaged and turned turtle. The car might have hit the trolley. No further details available with me.
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On reading about the Toyota Fortuner accident wherein no one survived, here is another SUV accident with the Ford Endeavour, which tumbled 400 feet into a valley and all 7 passengers survived. That is incredible to say the least.

Source : https://www.rushlane.com/ford-endeav...-12202918.html
I find it atrocious that in both the cases, (Fortuner and Endy), the reporting ends with a paragraph describing the features, variants and engine options of the car. Do we really need to advertise when deaths are being reported in the same report? When will actual reporting be back

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The new generation Ford Endeavour was launched in India back in 2016. Based on the Ford’s T6 platform, new Endeavour SUV receives bold chrome grille flanked by projector headlamps with DRLs. Its new bumper is dominated by meaty silver skid plate. Another feature which is highlighted in the front is its LED fog lamps. One of the largest cars to be on sale in India, Ford Endeavour measures 4,892 mm in length, 1,860 mm in width and 1,837 mm in height. It sits on a wheelbase of 2,850 mm, and has a ground clearance of 225 mm.

Engine specifications on offer with the new Ford Endeavour includes 3.2 liter and 2.2 liter Duratorq diesel engines. The 2.2 liter TDCi engine generates 157 bhp power and 385 Nm torque. The more powerful 3.2 liter TDCi engine delivers 197 bhp power and 470 Nm torque. Only automatic transmission is on offer.

Features on offer are multi-information display, remote key entry and power windows, voice control function on steering wheel, rain sensing wipers, dual zone air conditioning, cruise control, 6 airbags, ABS, EBD, Hill hold, and a terrain management system in rock, snow/mud and sand modes. Read our Ford Endeavour Review for more details.
They clearly understand who butters their bread

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I too saw that and did not quite understand why they are describing the vehicle specs.
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Old 23rd February 2018, 12:02   #25807
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That Endeavor news made me seriously put Ecosport back on my consideration list. Irrespective of gyaan of crumple zones, how lower weight cars are safer etc, it is a mental relief of safety in a 1/1.2 ton vehicle than an 800-900kg one.

I have traveled very recently on this exact same road, maybe that's why this news appeals to me emotionally.

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That Endeavor news made me seriously put Ecosport back on my consideration list. Irrespective of gyaan of crumple zones, how lower weight cars are safer etc, it is a mental relief of safety in a 1/1.2 ton vehicle than an 800-900kg one.

I have traveled very recently on this exact same road, maybe that's why this news appeals to me emotionally.
Bruv agree with your emotional part.
That (safety with mental relief) was my only reason to buy the Fiat Linea then in 2010, now it certainly will be Jeep Compass.
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I too saw that and did not quite understand why they are describing the vehicle specs.
Same thoughts came into my mind as well.

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That Endeavor news made me seriously put Ecosport back on my consideration list. Irrespective of gyaan of crumple zones,
Speeds at which these accidents happened are very different, a slow rollover (from the original article) cannot be compared to a head on collision at 1XX speeds.
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Speeds at which these accidents happened are very different, a slow rollover (from the original article) cannot be compared to a head on collision at 1XX speeds.
Exactly but then we reason with facts in form of pictures and survival stories.

A taller face front vehicle will certainly be better than a sedan sliding under a heavy vehicle chassis. Simple logic / observation as I see it.
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This one happened between Hosur and Shoolagiri (south of bangalore) 5 barely legal boys lost their life in the car and the poor bus conductor was also killed! (Car and occupants belonged to my home town, Hosur)

My septuagenarian father knew the dads (brothers) of 2 boys (cousins) (the 2 brothers used to own a printing press and my dad used to give printing business for his factory back in his service days. He said "these 2 dads (brothers) used to be at loggerheads for splitting family property, eventually did even separate and never saw eye-to-eye after the bitter property dispute, but seeing them in the same funeral procession of their dead sons was very heart wrenching. Money isnt the ultimate goal in life!" he said...

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Details here.
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Just wondering what speed Innova was doing when it rear ended the truck? Time and again we see similar accidents, where people fail to slow down in low visibility conditions
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Looks like the lorry was parked in the high-speed lane on the right side with obviously no indicators. Looking at the pics, seems like the Innova was doing pretty high speeds. Even without fog, it would have been difficult to stop. The fog made matters worse. I think both the Lorry driver as well as the Innova driver are to be equally blamed here.
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... I think both the Lorry driver as well as the Innova driver are to be equally blamed here.
Not equally. Driving fast in fog is utterly dangerous and irresponsible.

But one can't win: driving safely (which may mean crawling speed) may just mean being the vehicle that gets rear-ended,

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