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Old 18th March 2018, 12:16   #25951
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Another accident on the Yamuna Express way with fatalities.
http://www.dnaindia.com/india/report...illed-2594958/

It happened in the wee hours of the morning according to the article when an Innova rammed into a stationary truck.
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Old 18th March 2018, 13:00   #25952
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More than 20 casualties in a bus accident near Runnisaidpur. The bus overturned in a dry canal after jumping off a bridge. This very canal is overflowing during monsoons, one reason why casualties are less. The bus as usual was overloaded like most of them in this part of country. The cause is driver error, apparently the driver was trying to spit gutkha (pan-masala) and lost control !

Details here - https://m.timesofindia.com/city/patn...w/63349092.cms
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Old 18th March 2018, 19:59   #25953
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Got these pics as WhatsApp forward!
No need for debates to find out whos at fault here. The buses in north Kerala are notorious for rash driving. They are a menace and the police do absolutely nothing about it. I've had too many near misses to write this off as a rare incident. I've lost a family friend to to these vile maniacs. He was parked on the side of the road on his bike when an overtaking bus ran over him. If the traffic cops cant do anything about them, they better resign and sit at home on their fat useless asses.
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All credit goes to CarToq for the article and the vlogger for the video.
Yes credit for :

- Sensationalist journalism
- Exaggeration x 10, a fender bender (literally) portrayed as a major incident
- Abuses galore
- No mention of size/make of "offending" vehicle

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However, things take an unfortunate turn when he is hit by an allegedly drunk road user

"Furthermore, this video is yet another example of the risks that drunk-driving poses to other road users."

Other than that, no doubt on the spec of sheet metal on Tata cars post the launch of Bolt/Zest.. all thanks to specs and part sharing with Fiat in their shared factory. This article however, is garbage.
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Old 19th March 2018, 08:01   #25955
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Not really an accident but the possibilities give me the shivers!

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Not really an accident but the possibilities give me the shivers!
When someone takes the indicators from a truck as signs of giving way to be overtaken!! That is NEVER a case most of the times and always misleading.

9/10 times, a sudden sway, with such indication is always a hint that the truck did that for a purpose - An object ahead of it or it wants to suddenly pull over and stop.

The biker was damn lucky, because he was riding a bike and not driving a car!! Peeping out into that overtaking lane soon after the truck moves left is not a 'welcome sign' ever. Experience will tell how unless one is clear about what's ahead for a good distance will always pause for 2-3 seconds to get a clear visibility and then attempt overtaking.
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Not really an accident but the possibilities give me the shivers!

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While the truck was pretty wrong in driving in that lane in that direction, the biker could have well not been in that situation if;
- he had braked and passed the car from the right.. passing a car which is braking and moving to the left, from the left is a recipe for disaster.

- he had got behind the truck that he was overtaking and get a view of the road ahead before overtaking.

In the first case, the erring truck would have been visible early.

When he saw the brake lights of the car, he should have started to slow down rather than pass from the left and then move blindly to the right to pass the truck in front. There could have well been a broken down vehicle on the fast lane.

:: This should have ideally been placed in the "near miss" thread. However, if the rider was careful, it could have found it's place in the "bad drivers thread". The biker was lucky that this is not the right place for this.
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9/10 times, a sudden sway, with such indication is always a hint that the truck did that for a purpose - An object ahead of it or it wants to suddenly pull over and stop
I would put it a little differently - when a truck that's moving at a steady pace changes lanes quickly (with or without indication), 9 out of 10 times, the driver would have a real good reason to do so - a stationary object ahead, some vehicle barrelling against the flow of traffic (like in the video), dangerous animals (doesn't need explanation these days) or suicidal humans. The safest option for trailing vehicles is to follow suit or prepare to take evasive action.

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...Experience will tell how unless one is clear about what's ahead for a good distance will always pause for 2-3 seconds to get a clear visibility and then attempt overtaking.
It's not about experience, but common sense. You walk without watching your step, you will fall at some point. The same goes for roads - you ride/drive without looking ahead, you will land up in a mess, pun intended. The bikers were plain lucky to have managed to squeeze themselves in the gap between the trucks.

It's the same lack of common sense that has resulted in the truck being driven against the flow of traffic on the right most lane.

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I would put it a little differently - when a truck that's moving at a steady pace changes lanes quickly (with or without indication), 9 out of 10 times, the driver would have a real good reason to do so - a stationary object ahead, some vehicle barrelling against the flow of traffic (like in the video), dangerous animals (doesn't need explanation these days) or suicidal humans. The safest option for trailing vehicles is to follow suit or prepare to take evasive action.
I exactly meant the same. Here the indication was just an additional hint. There is no way a trucker would move that way just to allow someone to overtake .

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It's not about experience, but common sense.
And for most of them we have seen, it will come only after driving/riding around (and learning lessons). I am sure the next time the same biker will think twice than do what he did here.
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Not really an accident but the possibilities give me the shivers!

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The biker and his pillion were really lucky that day. Thankfully they had some gap between the two trucks else it would have been horrific.

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While the truck was pretty wrong in driving in that lane in that direction, the biker could have well not been in that situation if;
- he had braked and passed the car from the right.. passing a car which is braking and moving to the left, from the left is a recipe for disaster.

- he had got behind the truck that he was overtaking and get a view of the road ahead before overtaking.

In the first case, the erring truck would have been visible early.
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I agree that the biker could have chosen not been in the situation. Initially when I saw the title of the video, I felt that the Xylo would have been the center of attention, since the rider is trying to pass the Xylo when the latter is entering his lane, which itself would be a dangerous thing to do. IMO, its very important on our highway to keep track of the behaviour of other cars. Especially when they are making quick lane changes etc, there is a serious chance of something not being right. Instead, the biker took it for granted, and went ahead to overtake the truck without a second glance. Yes, in the ideal case, or in any country with good traffic discipline, I would have blindly made that overtake, but not in our country at least.

But the second part of him trying to be in the extreme right would have been a sort of gamble. One way, he could have spotted the truck much more in advance as soon as the Xylo went left, or if the truck ahead was blocking the view, he would have only spotted the oncoming truck in the opposite direction at the last moment. If that had happened, he might have not had the time to swerve left.

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When someone takes the indicators from a truck as signs of giving way to be overtaken!! That is NEVER a case most of the times and always misleading.

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Exactly You can never trust them. I was mentioning the same in a group that if a truck switches on indicators, goes to the left, then something is seriously wrong on the right. It can be such oncoming vehicles, parked cars, animals, people and what not.

On the way to my native once this stubborn KSRTC bus was not going to the left inspite of waiting for sometime, flashing lights and honking. Suddenly he starts to go to the left and I am a little happy that he finally moved, just to spot a water tanker watering the plants on the median. Thankfully, the left lane behind the bus was empty so I just tracked behind the bus and was able to overtake him before he came and regained his throne on the right lane.

This became a regular occurrence, and I got used to it. I used to peep a bit to spot such vehicles and move to left whenever the vehicle ahead of me did so due to some obstruction, and then I used to get ahead after the obstruction. However, once an Innova cab driver didnt realise this. He had developed good pace at around 90 kmph behind me. There was a private bus doing 80-90 and he swerved left. I realised what this was for and followed him. The Innova was nearly tailgating me, and thought that his intimidation won, just to get a stationary tractor tanker ahead of him as I swerved left behind the bus. Though he slammed his brakes, he didn't have enough time to stop and crashed into the tanker. The tanker suffered a bent underrun bar and a puncture near the tap while the Innova had its front end smashed.

After this incident, they now use a cone and a person who stands well behind the tanker and diverts vehicles. But looking at our situation, it might happen that the NHAI will have to employ people to shoo cows off the road, use an escort vehicle for such rogue trucks in the opposite side etc etc since our traffic manners have gone down the drain big time.
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An indictment of our times that the Lorry fellow coming down the wrong side is considered to be something which we should look for and is almost mentioned as something which has a high probability of happening

The bikers were extremely lucky and hope they have learnt their lesson. I sure have, by looking at the video
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Lucky guys, but no skills.
As I see it, these bikers perhaps do these stunts (I certainly can't call it driving) everyday on city roads i.e. go from right lane to left lane by overtaking a vehicle which had it's indicator on and was changing lane, move back to right lane without seeing the road ahead clearly. They had left no margin for any error for anyone.

Zigzag driving, filling the braking space of other vehicles, blocking a vehicle from changing it's lane, we've all have seen this on our city roads.

There is a difference of life & death when you ride in this fashion at 30-40 kmph in cities and attempt it at 60-80 kmph on indian highways.

Just one wrong move (by riders or others on road) and you are history. When will riders learn it
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Biker attempted overtaking without ascertaining whether the lane is free. He was blind and almost paid the price.

PS: While I say this, the lorry didn't have any business going in the opposite direction. But it was ! You need to handle these situations safely on our roads.
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Another drink and drive accident in which the Tigor's build quality was put to test.
This seems to be the service lane just before the highway passes below Wakad-Hinjewadi flyover. It's busy, without signals and both way driving is legal (being a service lane). I cross this area everyday, one of those area where I liberally honk at everyone.

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Not really an accident but the possibilities give me the shivers!
Remarkably reckless bike riding on the highway. Not condoning the oncoming truck, you never make your move without checking the way.
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Three doctors from New Delhi’s All India Institute of Medical Sciences were killed and four were injured after their car rammed into a truck on the Yamuna Expressway on Sunday morning. The doctors were travelling from New Delhi to Agra when their car tried to overtake the mini-truck near Mathura.While the reason of the accident could not be ascertained it is possible that the driver might have fallen asleep. That is most likely as the accident had taken place in the very early hours. Very sad indeed.
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