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Old 7th February 2017, 20:43   #91
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Default Re: How to know whether airbag module is intact or removed?

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I got your point buddy, this happens for sure in used market. Functionality is difficult to confirm, but presence can be checked. Any mechanic / A.S.S could do that. Another way is through VAGCOM for VW family.


We live in a planet filled with greedy hearts. There are cases where used car dealers, sometimes sellers themself, middle men incase of assets recovered by finance institutions remove accessories and parts (including air bag, spare wheels) and sell them offline.


What if the lamp is disconnected / bulb removed / failed? This is another scam running in used car market these days (witnessed one of the flood affected car sale case)
Well said sir, i too thought same. If any quoted slightly low price (assume Laura) , in delhi and kerala, i can see lower priced, though it looks genuine due to 10 year ban rule, but my mind thinks otherwise. So to clear my doubt i had posted it here. Since if they sell off few important modules and parts, which we can not notice, But overall If we see the Laura L&K value, we fell to the trap. But may the seller also had made good profit by selling those un noticed parts.
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Old 11th February 2017, 12:48   #92
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Default Re: Airbags: All you need to know!

With increasing awareness about car safety, more and more customers are looking for cars with all types of airbags, as evidenced by the facelifted City, which has additional side and curtain airbags in the top variant.

I found this while going through the website of the European Commission about side airbags.
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Research to date is inconclusive about the performance of side air bags in crashes which are designed to protect occupants in side impacts. No studies to date show convincing evidence of major injury reductions and there are some indications of airbag induced injuries.
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Things like this maybe the reason why airbags are still not mandatory in EU. Nevertheless, most manufacturers provide all types of airbags in EU cars.
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Default Re: Airbags: All you need to know!

Crash video shows the difference between having airbags and not having them.

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Crash video shows the difference between having airbags and not having them.
This is an incredibly misleading video (even if it's for a good cause).

The non-airbag and airbag cars being compared in the crash test are wildly different in terms of general safety rating (regardless of airbag).

The non-airbag car is clearly several generations older and suffers from huge intrusion into the passenger cabin. To compare, just keep an eye on the A-pillar during the crashes. You'll see the non-airbag car's A-pillar totally buckle and fold.
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The non-airbag car is clearly several generations older and suffers from huge intrusion into the passenger cabin. To compare, just keep an eye on the A-pillar during the crashes. You'll see the non-airbag car's A-pillar totally buckle and fold.
Not to forget the Non-Airbag car's driver's seat also sliding so much forward upon impact unlike the Airbag one.

Of course, Seat Belt with pre-tensioner will be at job but not to the extent that the seat will slide ahead that badly.

Obviously, 2 cars of the same make and model, with and without Airbags should have been compared.
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Very informative thread.
One thing which are probably not directly listed:

Airbags have holes and start to deflate immediately after they deploy. The important thing is to time the event properly. The "start of deflation" MUST coincide with the passenger hitting the airbag. If the passenger hits the airbag while it is inflating, it may (Note: it MAY) cause more injuries than if the airbag didn't deploy, because the passenger will hit a faster object (rapidly inflating airbag) compared to the crash itself.
This is also visible in any crash test video in slow motion- When the passenger hits the airbags, the airbags are already fully inflated and started to deflate. in summary, it is not the inflation, but the deflation that actually cushions the passenger's momentum and reduces injury.

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