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Old 30th October 2017, 10:49   #16
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A probable implementation could have been if the first beep sounds at 80, then at couple of times at 100 and then the intensity increases as you speed past 120. picture./
That is exactly how it has been proposed.
I don't see major problem with this rule personally, as I rarely drive above 80Kmph.
However, there is no benefit in these kinds of lame warnings.
People will simply ignore them, or disable them.
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Old 30th October 2017, 10:53   #17
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Come on, you guys! Glass is half full or half empty? Let's at least applaud the fact that reverse parking assist, airbags & crash tests are soon becoming mandatory in India.

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All new cabs registered in telengana have a ecu speedlock at 80kmph. too
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This will either improve after market 'fixing' for the warning or, there will be a spurt in the noise cancelling headphone market :-)
'Fixing' is already in place. Last week, I rented a self-drive Scorpio from ZoomCar. It was a new piece and had the '80 kmph max speed' sticker on it and the same was mentioned in an SMS I got from Zoom.

It still went beyond 100 kmph. I know because I saw it. Yes, there were audible warnings at 80 kmph, but no fuel cutoff, meaning ZoomCar removed the limiter.

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What happens to the Ferraris and other CBUs being imported, boy will they be mad!?
Won't affect CBUs. Even the current ARAI homologation isn't applicable to cars costing over USD 40,000.
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Old 30th October 2017, 11:03   #18
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Weren't airbags and ABS supposed to be mandatory from Octorber 2017? Now October 2017 has ended and we are talking about only driver-side airbag in 2019!! What's next? A mandatory balloon tied to the steering wheel in 2022? More gasbag than airbag, in my opinion. Seems like we get only announcements from the government, without any action.
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Weren't airbags and ABS supposed to be mandatory from Octorber 2017? Now October 2017 has ended and we are talking about only driver-side airbag in 2019!! What's next? A mandatory balloon tied to the steering wheel in 2022? More gasbag than airbag, in my opinion. Seems like we get only announcements from the government, without any action.
Well, it was originally meant to be started from 2014, but postponed to October 2017.
Now it has been postponed yet again, even though the crash facility in now in place.

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What is really needed is automatic headlights and day time running lights, the latter because bikers and the former for L boards. Airbags, I'm not sure because of the Takata scandal.
Day running lights was introduced first in Europe because it was required there, since it gets dark very early in winters. In most parts of India, Day running lights is not required at all. It may look cool, but serves no purpose whatsoever. I dont see the point in mandating useless features and causing the prices to go up.

Heck, I'd even go to the other extreme and want the manufacturers to offer a striped down version with no power windows, no electric mirrors, no rain sensing wipers, no automatic headlamps etc. Just give me a good fuel efficient engine with enough power, and a safe body structure. Rest of the things I will manage on my own. Thank you.
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Some part of the action is commendable.
I agree that parking assists and airbags should be made mandatory.

So, by 2019, the premium sedan of India, the Honda City which only sells (at 15 lacs) with Camera but no parking sensors will finally get sensors. Appreciate it.
Further, since the order says 'sensors', I assume they are talking about at least 2 sensors. So, the famed Innova Crysta which sells (for 18 lacs) with two reverse parking sensors, can continue to do so without any issues.

Coming to speed warnings, the audible chimes will definitely be an irritant. I am not a road burner and almost never cross 120, but I prefer to cruise at 105-110 most of the times. Would not want to hear warnings when I am driving well within the limits of
a- The car
b- The road
c- Myself.

I sincerely hope this part of the order is modified.
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Day running lights... In most parts of India, Day running lights is not required at all. It may look cool, but serves no purpose whatsoever.

Heck, I'd even go to the other extreme and want the manufacturers to offer a .... Rest of the things I will manage on my own. Thank you.
DRL does serve a purpose and a good one, it's not always about low light visibility, it's also about being visible in high glare situations, that's why motorcycles are required to have their headlights on at all times in some countries. They serve a great purpose because you can see vehicles in bright daylight, twilight and especially in the shade because the drivers don't bother with lights even at 8:30PM.

Advanced equipment is a necessity and great step towards safety, eyes on the road at all times. ACC is a great way to demist your windshield, just say the words or push a button instead of the 4 step process in lower spec cars, electric mirrors are great when parking. Cruise control is a great way to rest your feet and stretch without having to stop the car, I really missed it on my last trip, helps with fuel efficiency too.
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DRL does serve a purpose and a good one, it's not always about low light visibility, it's also about being visible in high glare situations, that's why motorcycles are required to have their headlights on at all times in some countries. They serve a great purpose because you can see vehicles in bright daylight, twilight and especially in the shade because the drivers don't bother with lights even at 8:30PM.

Advanced equipment is a necessity and great step towards safety, eyes on the road at all times. ACC is a great way to demist your windshield, just say the words or push a button instead of the 4 step process in lower spec cars, electric mirrors are great when parking. Cruise control is a great way to rest your feet and stretch without having to stop the car, I really missed it on my last trip, helps with fuel efficiency too.
Day running lights are basically to increase the vehicles conspicuity in low light situations. The same purpose can be served by putting on your lights. I fail to understand the need to burden people with additional expenses because some idiots fail to switch on their lights. Thats called dumb.

All the other frills that you mentioned are FRILLS. They do make it more convenient, yes, but are not ESSENTIAL. Let people who need them, pay for them. Its ridiculous to keep adding on Frills as Mandatory equipment on a vehicle and keep hiking up the price and increase the chances of failure due to increased electronics.
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Panel seeks tech to curb overspeeding.

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A panel appointed by transport ministry has recommended inclusion of a feature in the electronic control unit (ECU) in vehicles which will not allow them to run at more than 10% of the maximum permitted speed.

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Panel seeks tech to curb overspeeding.
A knee-jerk reaction. I'm all for this move, but before that, govt needs to ensure lane discipline, efficient toll booths and good roads and have uniform speed limits (not feasible IMO). e.g. an expressway might have 80 kmph limit, but ghat roads in the Himalayas might have 60 kmph. It won't deter motorists from speeding in such cases.

Rather than restricting the top speed, greater enforcement can be done. Advantages - generate revenue + employment for many.
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