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Old 10th January 2016, 09:33   #16
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Update: The urge to check out the old route finally overpowered the wrath of my wife about wasting time and I drove to Pune through the old road.

The surface is just butter smooth when compared to the harsh concrete that jars your bones on the expressway. The curves are a divine delight.... The only trouble was some pipe laying work at Khopoli which ate up a good part of an hour.
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The surface is just butter smooth when compared to the harsh concrete that jars your bones on the expressway.
I use the Pune-Lonavala sections on old NH4 atleast 2 times a month. Its always been in great shape. It takes me only 10 extra minutes compared to expressway.

I have not tried Lonavala-Panvel-Shilphata-Mumbra-Thane road since 2010, it was in bad condition back then.
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Guys, for some reason google maps does not show the old bombay pune highway.
It keeps showing the eway only.

Can someone please post the exact and complete route? Preferably mapped out with main turning points.

My route is Thane - Lonavala - Pune

I do not wish to go via eway.

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Guys, for some reason google maps does not show the old bombay pune highway.
It keeps showing the eway only.

Can someone please post the exact and complete route? Preferably mapped out with main turning points.

My route is Thane - Lonavala - Pune

I do not wish to go via eway.
At Panvel, you will get a well marked signage that says "Pune via Expressway" and "Pune via NH4".

For expressway, you climb an overbridge after this but for old Highway you keep left to approach the old highway.

After this its the usual dual carriageway for you with tolls.

The NH4 will merge with Expressway at Lonavala for almost 8 kms (if I recall it right). While you are on the eway, you take the exit marked for Lonavala after crossing Amrutanjan Bridge and driving ahead 2 kms further. So when you take the exit marked for Lonavala while you are on eway heading towards Pune, you will get back onto NH4/Old Highway.

But mind you, from Thane via Mumbra, NH4 is just bad bad traffic and mostly trailers which crawl and roads are not in best shape.

My advice to you would be to drive all the way till Vashi via Belapur Road and then exit Sion Panvel Highway at Panvel for NH4. Works best.

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From Thane if you really want to travel on the old NH4, drive through Kalwa and take a right at the Kalwa circle near Retibunder. The road goes through the Mumbra town (the old NH4), but you may want to take the new (14 year old) bypass that will avoid all Mumbra traffic.

Once you exit the bypass, turn right with Mumbra behind you, and this road will go straight to Kalamboli.

Here again, the old road goes right through Panvel but you can now take the flyover that avoids most of Panvel city traffic and rejoin the old NH4 and then drive on towards Khopoli. From here it should be a straightforward route via Khandala ghat to Kamshet, Talegaon and Pune.
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The surface is just butter smooth when compared to the harsh concrete that jars your bones on the expressway. The curves are a divine delight.... The only trouble was some pipe laying work at Khopoli which ate up a good part of an hour.
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I use the Pune-Lonavala sections on old NH4 atleast 2 times a month. Its always been in great shape. It takes me only 10 extra minutes compared to expressway.

I have not tried Lonavala-Panvel-Shilphata-Mumbra-Thane road since 2010, it was in bad condition back then.
Completely agree with you both Old NH4 Mumbai--Pune is such a buttersmooth tarmac. Gives a good break once in a while from the concrete Expressway. I have ridden about 13-15 times in the last 3 years by this old NH4 and it always rekindled my memories of travelling on this old road as a kid by bus, before the superb Expressway was born. Getting stuck in those 5 hour long traffic snarls in the Bhor ghat aka Khandala ghat are still fresh in my mind. Today you get stuck for only 15 mins in Lonavala town traffic, apart from that it's pure business gliding over the smooth curves till Khopoli, the superb ghat thereafter and then hitting a longish straight from Lonavala till Pune (Talegaon). All the while, getting beautiful glimpses of valleys,hills Expressway and railway lines. Thanks to the authorities concerned who maintain this highway. Last year for a very short period, potholes appeared post monsoons between Bombay and Khopoli, but they were soon patched up nicely by the next time I rode in September. It's said, the old NH4 will also be converted to 6 lanes all the way.

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The NH4 will merge with Expressway at Lonavala for almost 8 kms (if I recall it right).
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Yes right, just to be precise -- 6 kms for the Mumbai-Pune direction and 5 kms for the Pune--Mumbai direction. By the way, I have shared in another thread how to do Mumbai-Pune-Mumbai old NH4 all the way WITHOUT touching Expressway (legally).

Check here -- http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/route-...ml#post3999259 (Question about MPE and NH4)
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At Panvel, you will get a well marked signage that says "Pune via Expressway" and "Pune via NH4".

For expressway, you climb an overbridge after this but for old Highway you keep left to approach the old highway.

My advice to you would be to drive all the way till Vashi via Belapur Road and then exit Sion Panvel Highway at Panvel for NH4. Works best.
The Easier way is to get on the expressway at Panvel and exit at Shedung, which is around 10-15 mins after eway starts. Since you are just 10 mins on eway you exit well before Khalapur toll and you also completely bypass panvel.

The Shedung exit takes you to old NH4.However this exit has a toll, which takes 25-30rs.

If you are travelling from Mumbai, there is absolutely no traffic till Khopoli, real joy to drive and the Ghat section is well paved and free of potholes.I have recently driven Mumbai to Pune in Nano and Wego both, both journeys took around 3 hours by old highway.

Toll is Rs101 for 4 wheelers on old NH4.

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The Easier way is to get on the expressway at Panvel and exit at Shedung, which is around 10-15 mins after eway starts. Since you are just 10 mins on eway you exit well before Khalapur toll and you also completely bypass panvel.

The Shedung exit takes you to old NH4.However this exit has a toll, which takes 25-30rs.
Spot on ! Shedung exit is the fastest. I have tried all other routes, listing them in order of being faster to bypass Panvel and touch old NH4 -

1. SPTPL -- Expressway - exit at Shedung -- easy straight,fast.

2. SPTPL-- Panvel city -- Old NH4 at Palapse phata

3.SPTPL -- NH 4C for bypassing Panvel city -- JNPT -- touch Old NH4 at Palapse phata

2nd and 3rd routes take more or less the same time, bypass the Shedung toll of 25-30rs.
I personally prefer taking 4C though it's a bit longer.( bcoz I mostly ride and can't take Eway post Kalamboli till Shedung)


For someone starting from Palm beach road ( like me) in New Bombay. This route at times works best and is almost same as taking SPTPL, at times really faster and rarely slower due to container truck jams. The route is --
Palm beach road--NMMC corp circle/killa--right turn--Belapur--Uran road--left--JNPT road--touch Old NH4 at Palapse phata. Also works good to touch Expressway. ( involves one additional toll)

Needless to say, roads are very good on all these routes. The Palm beach-- Belapur--Uran stretch is also preferred by some to proceed further via Chirner to touch NH17. ( we however know, the Eway--Khalapur--Pali is the most popular route to take to touch NH17 from Bombay)
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