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Old 20th July 2017, 22:20   #451
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I seem to recall I ordered it on line in advance and picked them up at the airport
The pre-ordering bit was what I gathered from the tfl site. whyohwhyohwhy can't people just walk into a shop and buy one? That's how I got mine, but that would be quite a few years ago now.

(an aside: resident senior citizens can travel London for free, but not visitors. /rant)

The buses are good value. The most you can pay for a bus ride is a very small amount compared to the tube. It may or may not be quicker. It may take substantially longer! You have to get to know your bus routes, which is beyond the scope of few-days visit. Each bus stop has a code. Some have displays indicating the times when the next buses are due, some don't. You can get apps that interact with the tfl system and find out if you need to run for the bus before you even leave the house!

I have never done this, but I think there are even river boats that accept Oyster!

(Oh.... tfl = Transport For London, the people that run [almost?] all London's public transport)

PS... staying in Soho; only two days; methinks walking will be enough!

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The buses are good value. The most you can pay for a bus ride is a very small amount compared to the tube. It may or may not be quicker. It may take substantially longer! You have to get to know your bus routes, which is beyond the scope of few-days visit. Each bus stop has a code. Some have displays indicating the times when the next buses are due, some don't. You can get apps that interact with the tfl system and find out if you need to run for the bus before you even leave the house!

I have never done this, but I think there are even river boats that accept Oyster!

(Oh.... tfl = Transport For London, the people that run [almost?] all London's public transport)

PS... staying in Soho; only two days; methinks walking will be enough!
If you use an app such as Citymapp you really donít need the know the bus route. We certainly donít. You just punch in your destination and it will come up with the bus route, times, where you need to change etc. Itís very convenient.

I never look on a route map anywhere these days. Just make sure I have the right apps on my phone wherever I go and you can hitch a ride in Stockholm, Amsterdam or London alike. If you have google you are basically good to go, because it does a pretty decent job as well. Again no need to know the routes.

I believe you are right with respect to the river boats. We went to Greenwich one day, by river boat. Booked in advance, had printed our reservations. Still had to stand in line to get my paper reservation changed into actual tickets. Talk about bureaucracy!

Enjoy Soho. Very nice and very doable on foot!

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If you use an app such as Citymapp you really donít need the know the bus route. We certainly donít. You just punch in your destination and it will come up with the bus route, times, where you need to change etc. Itís very convenient.
Amazing. Lived in London for thirty years, and now I need advice on how to get around there!

True: I feel like a stranger there now and will certainly explore such apps next time I go, which should be July '18. Thanks.
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The best part about using the Tube in London is this: Most lines don't operate, and those that operate offer partial services with free buses between other destinations. As a result, you'd get more 'bang on the buck' should you choose to travel on weekends. TfL alone is a great source of knowledge for your adventure in London.
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The best part about using the Tube in London is this: Most lines don't operate ... ... ... on weekends.
Ahh, the dreaded engineering work.

I would say that most of the tube works most of the time, seven days a week. But I've spent just a couple of weeks there in the past seven or eight years: is it going through one of those bad times that break out every few years?

It used to madden me that they will close stuff down at weekends. I wouldn't have minded if they stopped me getting to work sometimes, but messing up my personal life was too bad.
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Living in London for a year, I have found Google Maps is the simplest way to go around, be it trains or buses or both. Have found it accurate more than 90% of the time.
Also, using oyster card is very convenient. Just create a login Id for your oyster card online and you get alerts on any closures or route changes, especially for weekends. Top ups are super easy at automated kiosks at stations.
I am currently in India for sorting out my visa stuff, will return next week.

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Ahh, the dreaded engineering work.

It used to madden me that they will close stuff down at weekends. I wouldn't have minded if they stopped me getting to work sometimes, but messing up my personal life was too bad.
Nowadays, for every closed train route, there is a Rail Replacement bus service made available from same station, free of charge ☺️
So one is not exactly stopped from traveling.
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Well, they did that in my day too.
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Its still the same, and I see as the weekends worst to travel in London. Alternatively, suggest a National Rail ticket to savour the sights and sounds of this beautiful country.
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Indeed. I have friends in Cornwall and family in the Lake District. Both are wonderful places to visit, and the train journeys are really enjoyable too. But our current enquirer is spending a mere two days.

Whilst I am British, spent thirty years living in London, and my all-too-rare visits are centred around seeing people (I'm just lucky that they happen to be in those two locations) I am absolutely a tourist in my mother country now. Two weeks is barely enough for London, let alone the rest of UK.
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