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Old 23rd April 2013, 17:57   #31
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I dont mind taking a longer route than passing peak afternoon traffic in Pune keeping in mind the bad traffic on Nasik -pune route.
Plan to leave Nasik early around 5 am in morning so can touch chakan in 4-5 hours
If its peak afternoon, I will still suggest the Chakan Option. Its peaceful in comparison to the City route where soon after you get onto the Old Mumbai-Pune highway, city traffic will start eating time while you pass through Pimpri-Chinchwad areas(Kasarwadi, Dapodi, Bopodi etc) and Shivajinagar.

The Sinhaghad road is very wide but has 3 signals (not too long except the last one at Santosh Hall) before you get onto the Bypass. But you would have spent good time crossing Pimpri Chinchwad areas anyhow.

Karve Road option also works for you but again its a very busy road with singals that may increase time.

Best thing about the Chakan option is that once you are on the bypass, even with just one traffic signal at Hinjewadi (and the diversions due to 6 laning), you will be able to cover good distance and with ease and quickly get out of the city all the way to Katraj Tunnels.

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The Sinhaghad road is very wide but has 3 signals (not too long except the last one at Santosh Hall) before you get onto the Bypass. But you would have spent good time crossing Pimpri Chinchwad areas anyhow.
On a Sat evening at 5, Sinhadgad road was choked ! It took at least an hour to reach NH4.

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Karve Road option also works for you but again its a very busy road with singals that may increase time.
Even I would say avoid. Quite crowded.

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Best thing about the Chakan option is that once you are on the bypass, even with just one traffic signal at Hinjewadi (and the diversions due to 6 laning), you will be able to cover good distance and with ease and quickly get out of the city all the way to Katraj Tunnels.
+1. I think its the best possible option. I dont the know the difference between Talegaon and Dehu road options. Of course the one via Dehu road seems smaller.
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On a Sat evening at 5, Sinhadgad road was choked ! It took at least an hour to reach NH4.
True, Saturday evening this road is absolutely choked! All the way from Swargate till the Bypass. In fact, on a Saturday, I would avoid all the city roads in Pune which is no different from Bangalore and gets crowded with private traffic in all areas.

Yes the Dehu road option is shorter compared to the Talegaon route. Secondly, the Chakan-Talegaon road is single lane and witnesses very heavy truck traffic due to high concentration of industries around. Most of the trucks going towards Mumbai (either via NH4 or Expressway) take this route.

Last year, I used this on a Saturday evening to reach Expressway for Mumbai from Aurangabad. With so many trucks all the way, overtaking is almost impossible. We also witnessed a huge jam nearing Talegaon due to a minor accident also.

Considering this the Dehu road option is better IMHO.

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Considering this the Dehu road option is better IMHO.
Thanks for the help. I went by the Talegaon Chakan road and then followed the Dehu - Alandi Road finally joining Mumbai-Pune Bypass road. Took around around 1hour 15 mins to cover the distance from Chakan to the Katraj Tunnel. This was around 10 am on weekday.
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Question Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route

I will land in Pune Airport on 4th September, Friday 2:45PM and my darshan is booked in Shirdi at 9:00PM.

I will be taking a zoom car from Dorabjees's, Aiport Road. Will I be able to reach on time for darshan? Can someone please sugegst a best route from Pune Airport to Shirdi avoiding Pune traffic.
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I will land in Pune Airport on 4th September, Friday 2:45PM and my darshan is booked in Shirdi at 9:00PM.

I will be taking a zoom car from Dorabjees's, Aiport Road. Will I be able to reach on time for darshan? Can someone please sugegst a best route from Pune Airport to Shirdi avoiding Pune traffic.
Pune Airport is super close to Nagar (Ahmadnagar) road that leads to Shirdi.

So you should not really spend much time to exit Pune as you will start from Dorabjee's.

Assuming that your flight lands on time (14:45) you would be out in 30 minutes max (15:15) and reach Dorabjee's at 15:30 and start for Shirdi from here at 15:45, you need to budget at least 4 hours from here for Shirdi which would mean you will reach at 19:45.

I guess you should manage this even with little bit of delay too.

Remember that from Dorabjee's you need to continue on the same road away from the Airport and at the next Major Signal (Nagar Road Intersection), turn left here and it's one road all the way till Nagar town and you will not have to enter Nagar town to make it to Shirdi road.

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Default Re: Bypassing Pune on Bangalore-Shirdi route

@Parag, I suggest you to add the way points (Dropped pins) of Google maps to this thread.
It immensly helped us when travelling from Bangalore via Pune towards Shirdi.
Onward journey took us around 1.5 hrs to cross Pune coz of the Saturday afternoon traffic, but return was just 40 minutes coz of the exact directions provided by You.
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Update on an alternative route for bypassing Pune (partly different route )-

NOTE :- The standard route i. e New Katraj tunnel--Vadgaon Plata exit--Sinhagad--Saras baug--Tilak road--Swargate--Shankarshet-Magarpatta--Kharadi bypass--Wagholi--Chandan Nagar junction--Nagar road--Wagholi (as described by Parag and is popular in this thread, rightly so) still holds good. I am just giving an alternate perspective for some apparent reasons.

I will be talking about the route between NH4 and Swargate junction, officially known as "Satara road" in Pune.

My version of partly alternate route in Pune -- Exit from NH4 at Shindewadi octroi(now city bus stand/depot)--turn right below highway at underpass--take old Katraj tunnel old Katraj ghat--Katraj traffic signal--Satara road--Swargate--Shankarshet road--Camp--Magarpatta city--Kharadi bypass--Chandan nagar junction--Nagar road--Wagholi--exit Pune.

So, as you can notice, the route is same from Shankarshet onwards wrt the standard route.


1. Some part of 8 kms long Old Katraj Ghat (old Katraj tunnel route) which is a 2 lane, has been reasphalted last month. It is done over that stretch which had lot of potholes earlier. Rest of the road, as of last month, remains the old one with average surface and all potholes patched up. Old Katraj Ghat can be termed as average to good.

2. Katraj--Swargate road or Satara road -- This is a 6 kms long, 6 lane wide road with BRTS. 2 flyovers on this road. Shankarrao maharaj flyover of 1.2 kms long has been open to traffic since last year. It bypasses the messy Dhankawadi Balaji Nagar and KK market junction. 1 traffic signal bypassed. Next flyover is the Y-shape flyover at Jedhe chowk, Swargate or simply Swargate junction. This was the most horrible junction wrt traffic snarls until 20 days back. Thanks to the 1.78kms Y-shape flyover that was opened to public 2 weeks back, bypasses this messy junction. 2 traffic signals bypassed. Gets you directly ahead of PMPML Depot on Shankarshet road. Both of these flyovers have provided a big relief for traffic on this road. You will still encounter about 3 more traffic signals on non flyover section. Great change and relief ever since these flyovers were thrown open to public.

The standard route New Katraj tunnel--Sinhagad--Swargate has about 7-8 traffic signals to deal with and no flyovers anywhere. While the Satara road Y-shape flyover bypasses the Swargate junction, taking Sinhagad route will take you through the traffic signal at this junction. You need to do some lefts and rights taking standard route, but old Katraj Ghat would mean, one exit from NH4, straight and all the way and only one right to get past Swargate. Standard route is also about 3kms longer compared to my version BUT the NH4 /GQ bypass, now 6 lane from earlier 4 lane, till Vadgaon Phata exit is/was the sole game changer. Add to it, the pleasure of driving through 1.3km long, fully illuminated twin Katraj new tunnels (4laned) . Panoramic first beautiful views of Pune city, as you get pass these tunnels and hills and the tall viaduct. This is kinda majestic and a hip entry to Pune.

Old Katraj tunnel which is just about 300metres,non-illuminated,narrow 2 lane has its old world charm. Nice ghat road, and once you exit the tunnel, you get some nice views of Pune from here too. Like I said, this is the old fashioned style of getting into Pune from south.

Timing wise, both the routes take more or less same time, thanks to flyovers on Satara road. BUT, 2 lane old Katraj Ghat vs 6 lane GQ bypass is a matter of contention here.

Future perspective -- Grade separator is going to be built at Swargate junction shortly, messing up the traffic, so my version of route can come handy then.

For now, STICK TO the standard route (Parag's version). Please, Don't mistake me to be nitpicking the standard route. What he has described all these days still holds VERY GOOD. Also, I guess no one will be interested to know how Pune looks from different angles after driving 825 kms from Bangalore.

My intention was to only update regarding the flyovers and put up a different perspective. Say in rare case, Sinhagad road has deadly traffic jams, keep my route handy. If in future, the grade separator work creates a lot of mess at Swargate junction, we can update ourselves for which can be a convenient route. Attaching two images, first one is Shankar rao maharaj flyover and second is Swargate Y-shape flyover
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Update on an alternative route for bypassing Pune (partly different route )-
Not a different route. Something that I had suggested many times earlier.

The only reason to stop suggesting was due to the flyover work on Satara Road which otherwise was a huge bottleneck due to narrower sections below.


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NOTE :- The standard route i. e New Katraj tunnel--Vadgaon Plata exit--Sinhagad--Saras baug--Tilak road--Swargate--Shankarshet-Magarpatta--Kharadi bypass--Wagholi--Chandan Nagar junction--Nagar road--Wagholi (as described by Parag and is popular in this thread, rightly so) still holds good.
This actually took over a Standard route after the flyover construction.

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My version of partly alternate route in Pune -- Exit from NH4 at Shindewadi octroi(now city bus stand/depot)--turn right below highway at underpass--take old Katraj tunnel old Katraj ghat--Katraj traffic signal--Satara road--Swargate--Shankarshet road--Camp--Magarpatta city--Kharadi bypass--Chandan nagar junction--Nagar road--Wagholi--exit Pune.
How do you rate the traffic on Old Katraj Ghat? At times, this is really crawling due to the nature of carriageway. Of course, with the Satara Road flyover complete, the crawl here should get compensated isn't it?
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This was the most horrible junction wrt traffic snarls until 20 days back. Thanks to the 1.78kms Y-shape flyover that was opened to public 2 weeks back, bypasses this messy junction. 2 traffic signals bypassed.
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Gets you directly ahead of PMPML Depot on Shankarshet road. Both of these flyovers have provided a big relief for traffic on this road. You will still encounter about 3 more traffic signals on non flyover section. Great change and relief ever since these flyovers were thrown open to public.
are huge relief I must say. I was waiting for the works here to complete that makes reach Swargate Junction a cakewalk now from NH4.

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Timing wise, both the routes take more or less same time, thanks to flyovers on Satara road. BUT, 2 lane old Katraj Ghat vs 6 lane GQ bypass is a matter of contention here.
Something that I have tried multiple times when passing Pune for Aurangabad. Both have been a hit or miss.

Not to forget the fact that if you are doing Shankarsheth Road - Camp - Hadapsar - Kharadi Bypass at peak hours, you will for sure end up with lots of office traffic, especially on Kharadi Bypass.

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For now, STICK TO the standard route (Parag's version). Please, Don't mistake me to be nitpicking the standard route. What he has described all these days still holds VERY GOOD.
Not at all Vivek. If you scroll through multiple pages on other threads related to bypassing Pune for Shirdi, I have clearly mentioned both the route. It is only the flyover work that had made things super slow on Satara Road. Imagine the patience of a driver who has driven 830 kms and then getting stuck here :-).

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Also, I guess no one will be interested to know how Pune looks from different angles after driving 825 kms from Bangalore.
Well, At least after you exit the Twin Katraj tunnels, Pune does welcome you Majestically. Hills, Viaducts, lake, Concrete Jungle atop those Hills!!

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Say in rare case, Sinhagad road has deadly traffic jams,
My area of stay whenever in Pune has been Sinhaghad Road itself since past 20 years and I agree with you. Early mornings towards City and evenings towards Sinhaghad are messy - Especially the Santosh Hall Junction. Weekends are unpredictable. But trust me, this is better than Bangalore despite the unruly traffic there!
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Not a different route. Something that I had suggested many times earlier.

The only reason to stop suggesting was due to the flyover work on Satara Road which otherwise was a huge bottleneck due to narrower sections below.


This actually took over a Standard route after the flyover construction.

How do you rate the traffic on Old Katraj Ghat? At times, this is really crawling due to the nature of carriageway. Of course, with the Satara Road flyover complete, the crawl here should get compensated isn't it?




Not at all Vivek. If you scroll through multiple pages on other threads related to bypassing Pune for Shirdi, I have clearly mentioned both the route. It is only the flyover work that had made things super slow on Satara Road. Imagine the patience of a driver who has driven 830 kms and then getting stuck here :-).

Well, At least after you exit the Twin Katraj tunnels, Pune does welcome you Majestically. Hills, Viaducts, lake, Concrete Jungle atop those Hills!!
Agreed Sirjee I saw that you have clearly mentioned both routes many times earlier. I said as "partly different route" only thinking that it might have been erased from the memories of many people , as Sinhagad route became popular over the last few years and generally it is THE route everyone knew at the back of their mind. Otherwise, there is absolutely no reason to call it a different route. May be I should have said "former route".

In my opinion, Traffic on 8kms long Old Katraj Ghat is always moderate and acceptable to me for the standards of a route that enters a major metropolis. There is moving traffic always except at the base of the ghat which very rarely gets jammed. Until few days back, there were these annoying potholes and the road in between was very rough that was quite a deterrent and slowed down the traffic. Other day I saw, that particular section was relaid with fresh tarmac. 12-15 mins max for a bike, 15-20 mins max for a car and 20-25 for a bus, if I have to rate it for a normal peak hour traffic. Yes, you can say, in case one happens to crawl here for any reason, it can get compensated over the two flyovers later on.

The catch here is that one can just fly over the 6 lane bypass till Vadgaon phata exit, if he intends to take Sinhagad road. So, there are actually two matters for argument here --

1. If the 8 kms long old Katraj Ghat takes max 15-20 mins for a car, it takes just about 8-9 mins max over the 6 lane bypass till Vadgaon phata exit, considering same origin point i.e Shindewadi octroi.

2.The routes later on i. e Sinhagad road vs Satara road to reach Swargate. As on date, Satara road wins because of its two flyovers and lesser traffic signals to deal with. Also, it's just one straight and right turn for Shankarshet road. Swargate junction escaped !

My opinion that Sinhagad route still holds good, is only based on a perspective of someone who drives from Bangalore, as I am not sure how many are willing to exit the 6 lane and take the 2 lane ghat road for next 8 kms. Probably some would prefer to stick to 6 lane bypass, non-ghat road, no??. I am just reserving my comments until someone driving all the way from Bangalore would actually find the old Katraj Ghat--Satara road easier and stressfree to pass.

Personally, I would just take off the old Katraj Ghat and the flyovers on Satara road knowing Pune and it's traffic well. I know I can get past Swargate faster via Satara road than the Sinhagad road.

Agree with rest of all your thoughts. Ofcourse, when you drive next time to Pune/Shirdi from Bangalore taking this flyover route, your judgment will be better and much clearer for all other Bangalorean folks who would drive a whopping 830 kms. I would eagerly wait for your take on this.
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