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Old 9th July 2009, 11:15   #736
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Raj, in a months time we would have more updates on the road as the condition of the ghats would go bad...

Also offlate i am not too keen to travel on NH48, thanks to toe construction work going on...but i find the Mysore road option round about

on the rains i just pray we get sufficient of it, less rains can harm us in many ways
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Old 9th July 2009, 11:45   #737
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My son hasn't had school in 3 days, all schools in Udupi district are closed since Tuesday. That should give you some idea about the rain right now.

The roads have turned from good to worse in matter of days, the people who saw the roads 10 days back won't recognize it now.

Yes, I rip through all the potholes without much thought as long as I am not driving the Santro. These are the days that warms your heart for owning 4x4 offroading vehicles. One doesn't have to go offroad to have offroad fun, just stay on road, that'll do.

All the heartburn of paying huge Karnataka road-tax heals temporarily. What other state gives offroad fun on roads for an entire season? I say call it offroad-tax, let's call spade a spade.

Of course, those of you who don't enjoy offroading or don't have Jeep/Gypsy/UV/SUVs, heed the subliminal message from the state government. Stay indoors or get out of the state...
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Things are pretty bad in coastal and malnad area right now. Karnataka is one of the worst states in india still as far as road condition. Soon I hope politicians and officers of this State and some percentage of public learn awareness of how to keep ourselves and our neighbhourhood clean and neat which would improve the situation.

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In Karnataka the roads cant take even 1 monsoon, newly laid tarmac gives up after couple of heavy showers... sad!
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In Karnataka the roads cant take even 1 monsoon, newly laid tarmac gives up after couple of heavy showers... sad!
No road will survive for long unless there is a drainage system along the road to collect water.

Seems like the civic authorities are not educated about such concept.

Also, it seems they dont build road at a slant angle in the cities. Stagnant water will always create a pothole and eventually destroy the road.
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Yes, I rip through all the potholes without much thought as long as I am not driving the Santro. These are the days that warms your heart for owning 4x4 offroading vehicles. One doesn't have to go offroad to have offroad fun, just stay on road, that'll do.

All the heartburn of paying huge Karnataka road-tax heals temporarily. What other state gives offroad fun on roads for an entire season? I say call it offroad-tax, let's call spade a spade.

Of course, those of you who don't enjoy offroading or don't have Jeep/Gypsy/UV/SUVs, heed the subliminal message from the state government. Stay indoors or get out of the state...
Yes Samurai do have a clue of the rains there. May be the roads authorities should be sent to Maharashtra and Gujarat. I too was grumblesome with having to pay taxes more than any other state. But i guess it helps.Dont know about the roads in Vidarbha but otherwise roads are fine.
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Agree with you, when Shiradi ghat was almost complete and monsoon was almsot set last year and i was shocked to see that the drainage work ws done after completing the road work and at some places they dint have space to make drain! this was surely unplanned.. the authorities/engineers would have realised the need of drain at the last moment!

Same case with Mangalore city, after completion of the concrete roads, they are trying to acquire space for the drain...

Am amazed by all this!


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No road will survive for long unless there is a drainage system along the road to collect water.

Seems like the civic authorities are not educated about such concept.

Also, it seems they dont build road at a slant angle in the cities. Stagnant water will always create a pothole and eventually destroy the road.
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My Uncle used to work for PWD between 50s-90s, he ended his career in Mangalore City, the only one year he ever served in a city. He started his career under British trained engineers and he has some amazing things to say about engineers in PWD. He was one of those clean types who was heavily despised within his department throughout his career. But none of his bosses ever wanted to transfer him away since he was generally the only one around who knew any real engineering.

According to him, the average knowledge/skill level of engineers in PWD has only been down, down and down. Until the 70s, the tar laying guys were specialists, who knew exactly how much to mix for a given raod specification. So, the roads were actually laid well. However, by the 90s anybody who wore the rubber padding for the given day became the tar mixer. The current bunch of PWD engineers can't lay a good road if their life depended on it. They simply don't know how.
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In Karnataka the roads cant take even 1 monsoon, newly laid tarmac gives up after couple of heavy showers... sad!
And it has been happening for years now.

One should take the Anmod route from Goa to Londa. Right at the border and it is so damn surprising. The road on the karnataka side must have disintegrated while the one on Goa side is as good as new. Same rain, same traffic. But much better drainage. There are some bad sections on the Goa side too but thats due to the crazy rainfall on the western ghats.

And what takes the cake is the road tax in Goa is much lower then the one in Karnataka.
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AFAIK, the road on which tar has been laid without compromise is the one between Hassan & Belur(also to a stretch till Chikmagalur). It's been almost 5+ years since they haid done this road, not even a single pothole & the road is too good(Remember this part of region also receives moderate to heavy rain). Why can't the authorities construct roads of this sort ?
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Who built that road?
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Who built that road?
Belur - Hassan > Valecha Engineering.
Belur - Chikmagalur > Maytas Infra.

I very much agree to Sushrutha that it has been more than 5 years that these roads have developed a single pot hole. I used to travel both roads while they were being constructed/renovated during the early 2000s.
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AFAIK, the road on which tar has been laid without compromise is the one between Hassan & Belur(also to a stretch till Chikmagalur). It's been almost 5+ years since they had done this road, not even a single pothole & the road is too good(Remember this part of region also receives moderate to heavy rain). Why can't the authorities construct roads of this sort ?
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Belur - Hassan > Valecha Engineering.
Belur - Chikmagalur > Maytas Infra.

I very much agree to Sushrutha that it has been more than 5 years that these roads have developed a single pot hole. I used to travel both roads while they were being constructed/renovated during the early 2000s.
Guys the road which is being talked about here does not get many heavy vehicles as you see them on the Shiradi ghats road, that could be one reason for the road to be in that condition.

Heavy Rains & Heavy vehicle are the result of bad roads on the Shiradi ghat stretch.

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Chikmagalur > Maytas Infra.
At least Raju did show some honesty here making roads and not gulping all money.
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Guys the road which is being talked about here does not get many heavy vehicles as you see them on the Shiradi ghats road, that could be one reason for the road to be in that condition.

Heavy Rains & Heavy vehicle are the result of bad roads on the Shiradi ghat stretch.
Raghu,I was talking purely interms of build quality. I know Shiradi ghats receives more rainfall than Hassan - Belur stretch, and traffic is quite not as shiradi. But why doesn't B.M. Road have that quality of road? The road still(H.Belur Rd) still looks like new, heck even the markings(yellow at the edges, white in middle) haven't gone even after 5+ years of usage.
.@anuj,As I meantioned previously in my post(strech to chikmgalur) is not upto the mark. Only some parts of stretch is good between Belur & Chikmagalur

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