CNG in Baleno Vxi?? - Team-BHP

yogi · 26th February 2006, 10:36

Hi,

Just joined the forum yesterday. Planning to buy a Baleno Vxi thanks to the huge fan following of this lean mean machine.
I will be doing about 60-80 km everyday (gurgaon-delhi-gurgaon) and was interested in finding if anyone has fitted a CNG kit in his/her Baleno. Does it make sense to go in for one. While Petrol and disel prices are on the upward curve without any respite and the huge availability of CNG (as mentioned by the vendors), theoritically it makes sense to go in for a CNG kit. But how much impact it has on the car. I have heard various things like engine life getting effected to no problemo

Can people who have fitted cng respond. will highly appreciate...

Yogi

mclaren1885 · 26th February 2006, 10:53

Well i happened to drive my uncles maruti 800 fitted with a CNG kit .. The car though is easy to maintain does certainly feel like a dud , no torque , no power at all .. Got tired and switched to the petrol mode and the better torque levels , accelaration was clearly noticeble .. The difference was so much that i could not belive my eyes ..

So from this i inferred that CNG kits do play well with ur pocket but have a tremendous disadvantage from a drivers point of view .. Balenos are best known for the torqueir engines for city driving , but by using a CNG kit im thinking that u might just take the advantage of the baleno itself out of the equation .. That being the point , for that matter i think it would be better to pick up a zen and run it on gas .. Bcoz ud be hitting the baleno hard on its advantage point , so makes no use of going for a baleno .. If u can live with the drop in performance , then carry ahead ..

However im inferring this based on the ride on the 800 , i could be wrong .. Lets wait for what the others have to say ..

Godfather · 26th February 2006, 10:59

I hope this helps.. also i have never used a cng kit but a few of my friends have and they are not at all satisfied with it..

http://www.indiacar.com/index2.asp?p.../using_cng.htm

the rest is up to you to decide..

bhogalrajnish · 26th February 2006, 15:45

M800 -- 38BHP+ cng = (Under powered)// Baleno 90+ bhp+cng ==(makes sence)

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Originally Posted by mclaren1885

Well i happened to drive my uncles maruti 800 fitted with a CNG kit .. The car though is easy to maintain does certainly feel like a dud , no torque , no power at all .. Got tired and switched to the petrol mode and the better torque levels , accelaration was clearly noticeble .. The difference was so much that i could not belive my eyes ..

So from this i inferred that CNG kits do play well with ur pocket but have a tremendous disadvantage from a drivers point of view .. Balenos are best known for the torqueir engines for city driving , but by using a CNG kit im thinking that u might just take the advantage of the baleno itself out of the equation .. That being the point , for that matter i think it would be better to pick up a zen and run it on gas .. Bcoz ud be hitting the baleno hard on its advantage point , so makes no use of going for a baleno .. If u can live with the drop in performance , then carry ahead ..

However im inferring this based on the ride on the 800 , i could be wrong .. Lets wait for what the others have to say ..

nitrous · 26th February 2006, 16:25

Yogi, y not Legal LPG??

revtech · 26th February 2006, 17:25

hey dude

firstly welcome to tbhp.

1)if driven cautiosly the baleno will easily give you 12+ with AC on 100% of the time in city.but it all boild down to your driving style. CNG only makes sence if you really really bothered about your mileage.which i feel if you are that it makes sence buying a desiel vehicle like the accent Crdi or the fiesta.but if you really want the baleno and want to go in for a conversion i would suggest Lpg.i think its better than CNG in a couple of ways and a friend of mine has LPG in his astra.no problems as such but dont expect the same performance and responsiveness from the engine after the conversion.

2) dont really know about the discounts.

3)yeah.why dont you check out the accent crdi and fiesta desiel too.

4) handling of the baleno is great.if your going in for the vxi its okay as it comes with 185 mm rubber but if your going for the lxi make sure you get thicker tubeless tyres considering that youll be doing long distance travel sometimes.

enjoy your stay here.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/introd...-everyone.html (Hi Everyone...)

Rev

manver786 · 27th February 2006, 08:20

Hi,

I have been using CNG since 1998 in my Zen (Carb). Having driven extensively I recommend converting it. The difference between Carb and MPFI is that in MPFI you don't feel any lag in power whereas in Carb it is noticable and you have to live with it or get used to it. My friend is using a Zen MPFI and conferted it into CNG and on driving his car I did not feel any lack of power.

So far as maintenance is concerned I have not had any maintenance issues especially with MPFI vehicles. Go for it.

yogi · 27th February 2006, 09:54

Hi All

Tks for the feedback. I will keep you posted on my plans

Yogi

Buffetfan · 1st March 2006, 01:22

if you are going to do 100+ km a day you should buy a diesel car...(I would say Accent Crdi)..but Baleno makes sense till 60-70 km/day

dodge · 2nd March 2006, 15:24

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Originally Posted by manver786

Hi,

I have been using CNG since 1998 in my Zen (Carb). Having driven extensively I recommend converting it. The difference between Carb and MPFI is that in MPFI you don't feel any lag in power whereas in Carb it is noticable and you have to live with it or get used to it. My friend is using a Zen MPFI and conferted it into CNG and on driving his car I did not feel any lack of power.

So far as maintenance is concerned I have not had any maintenance issues especially with MPFI vehicles. Go for it.

me too plning to install cng in my zen vxi how much will it cost including installation n everything.. nd have a doubt abt t tank size will i be able to keep my speakers and subwoofer after instaling cng

Zappo · 2nd March 2006, 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodge

me too plning to install cng in my zen vxi how much will it cost including installation n everything.. nd have a doubt abt t tank size will i be able to keep my speakers and subwoofer after instaling cng

I do not know from where you picked up this buzz about the CNG! Its understandable for ppl in Delhi but in Kochi? I guess you will be better off with a LPG kit. One it is easily available and legal. Second cost-wise it works out better. Conversion is cheaper. Engine runs cleaner. Power loss is negligible. And also, the LPG kit can be fitted into the hatch but I am not so sure about CNG. Generally they are bigger and more elaborate (= difficult and costlier modifications).

satish_appasani · 2nd March 2006, 19:36

I have LPG in my Siena. I don't feel any difference in the power....

Samrat Banerjee · 27th May 2006, 19:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by yogi

Hi,

Just joined the forum yesterday. Planning to buy a Baleno Vxi thanks to the huge fan following of this lean mean machine.
I will be doing about 60-80 km everyday (gurgaon-delhi-gurgaon) and was interested in finding if anyone has fitted a CNG kit in his/her Baleno. Does it make sense to go in for one. While Petrol and disel prices are on the upward curve without any respite and the huge availability of CNG (as mentioned by the vendors), theoritically it makes sense to go in for a CNG kit. But how much impact it has on the car. I have heard various things like engine life getting effected to no problemo

Can people who have fitted cng respond. will highly appreciate...

Yogi

Hi,
i am picking up a Baleno and thinking of CNG conversion. What has been your experience.. specially with the SC on?
thanks

msprabhakar · 28th May 2006, 07:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by yogi

...Can people who have fitted cng respond. will highly appreciate...

Yogi, Surely you'll not to find too many Baleno enthusiasts in India offering good advice on CNG conversion kits. At the same time, factory-fitted CNG kits are sold in Baleno in other parts of the world offering excellent results.

Baleno stands for different virtues for different people. If you're attracted to Baleno and also to CNG economy, go for both... My only advice... (since you live in Gurgaon), get the conversion done through experienced Maruti hands... you'll have no regrets... Enjoy, and we look forward to your experience (maybe first in India!) in a new avatar of Baleno!!

naveendhyani · 29th May 2006, 16:16

but guys isn't CNG dry fuel which will eat up the engine much faster than the regular fuel will?

also if this is not the case how much drop in performance should we expect?

ny info on how the AC works, cause thats the USP of baleno.

26th February 2006, 10:36	#1 (permalink)
yogi Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 2	CNG in Baleno Vxi?? Hi, Just joined the forum yesterday. Planning to buy a Baleno Vxi thanks to the huge fan following of this lean mean machine. I will be doing about 60-80 km everyday (gurgaon-delhi-gurgaon) and was interested in finding if anyone has fitted a CNG kit in his/her Baleno. Does it make sense to go in for one. While Petrol and disel prices are on the upward curve without any respite and the huge availability of CNG (as mentioned by the vendors), theoritically it makes sense to go in for a CNG kit. But how much impact it has on the car. I have heard various things like engine life getting effected to no problemo Can people who have fitted cng respond. will highly appreciate... Yogi

26th February 2006, 10:53	#2 (permalink)
mclaren1885 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bangalore (the city of modded cars) !! Posts: 3,796 View My Garage	Well i happened to drive my uncles maruti 800 fitted with a CNG kit .. The car though is easy to maintain does certainly feel like a dud , no torque , no power at all .. Got tired and switched to the petrol mode and the better torque levels , accelaration was clearly noticeble .. The difference was so much that i could not belive my eyes .. So from this i inferred that CNG kits do play well with ur pocket but have a tremendous disadvantage from a drivers point of view .. Balenos are best known for the torqueir engines for city driving , but by using a CNG kit im thinking that u might just take the advantage of the baleno itself out of the equation .. That being the point , for that matter i think it would be better to pick up a zen and run it on gas .. Bcoz ud be hitting the baleno hard on its advantage point , so makes no use of going for a baleno .. If u can live with the drop in performance , then carry ahead .. However im inferring this based on the ride on the 800 , i could be wrong .. Lets wait for what the others have to say .. __________________ I am proud of you, binzy boy !!! Keep up the good work.

26th February 2006, 10:59	#3 (permalink)
Godfather Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Atlanta GA Posts: 1,249 View My Garage	I hope this helps.. also i have never used a cng kit but a few of my friends have and they are not at all satisfied with it.. http://www.indiacar.com/index2.asp?p.../using_cng.htm the rest is up to you to decide.. __________________ I accidentally installed the deer whistles on my car backwards. Now everywhere I go, I'm chased by a herd of deer.

26th February 2006, 16:25	#5 (permalink)
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: Motorcity Madras Posts: 4,134 View My Garage	Yogi, y not Legal LPG?? __________________ The Road less travelled, is less travelled for a reason

26th February 2006, 17:25	#6 (permalink)
revtech Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Vero Beach, FL Posts: 1,651 View My Garage	hey dude firstly welcome to tbhp. 1)if driven cautiosly the baleno will easily give you 12+ with AC on 100% of the time in city.but it all boild down to your driving style. CNG only makes sence if you really really bothered about your mileage.which i feel if you are that it makes sence buying a desiel vehicle like the accent Crdi or the fiesta.but if you really want the baleno and want to go in for a conversion i would suggest Lpg.i think its better than CNG in a couple of ways and a friend of mine has LPG in his astra.no problems as such but dont expect the same performance and responsiveness from the engine after the conversion. 2) dont really know about the discounts. 3)yeah.why dont you check out the accent crdi and fiesta desiel too. 4) handling of the baleno is great.if your going in for the vxi its okay as it comes with 185 mm rubber but if your going for the lxi make sure you get thicker tubeless tyres considering that youll be doing long distance travel sometimes. enjoy your stay here. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/introd...-everyone.html (Hi Everyone...) Rev __________________ Revin Beyond Limits !! Last edited by revtech : 26th February 2006 at 17:27.

27th February 2006, 08:20	#7 (permalink)
manver786 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: delhi Posts: 16	Hi, I have been using CNG since 1998 in my Zen (Carb). Having driven extensively I recommend converting it. The difference between Carb and MPFI is that in MPFI you don't feel any lag in power whereas in Carb it is noticable and you have to live with it or get used to it. My friend is using a Zen MPFI and conferted it into CNG and on driving his car I did not feel any lack of power. So far as maintenance is concerned I have not had any maintenance issues especially with MPFI vehicles. Go for it. __________________ mvk

27th February 2006, 09:54	#8 (permalink)
yogi Newbie Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 2	Thanks Hi All Tks for the feedback. I will keep you posted on my plans Yogi

1st March 2006, 01:22	#9 (permalink)
Buffetfan BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 559	if you are going to do 100+ km a day you should buy a diesel car...(I would say Accent Crdi)..but Baleno makes sense till 60-70 km/day

2nd March 2006, 19:36	#12 (permalink)
satish_appasani BHPian Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 917 View My Garage	I have LPG in my Siena. I don't feel any difference in the power....

29th May 2006, 16:16	#15 (permalink)
naveendhyani BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Melbourne Posts: 542	but guys isn't CNG dry fuel which will eat up the engine much faster than the regular fuel will? also if this is not the case how much drop in performance should we expect? ny info on how the AC works, cause thats the USP of baleno.

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