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Old 15th August 2006, 16:53   #1
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Dear Team-Bhp Members

I would like to know which is the best diesel engine among mid segment cars as well as muv in india.

cars to compare would be

Accent CRDI
Mahindra Scorpio
Skoda
Elantra
Toyota innova

though there may be clash in terms of car segment like accent crdi and toyota innova and cannot be compared i am asking about the engine aspect only,

in terms of
speed,
power,
throtle response,
reliability of engine,
gear ****,
eaze of driving,
mileage
overall performence etc.

please make is as elaborated as possible if you can i would like to get an indepth analysis, in this subject.

thanks

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Skoda's TDi engine is far superior than any of the other rivals you mentioned.
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There is nothing you can call "best" out of the choices you have given. Each one has its own pros and cons. For eg. Accent CRDI is coarse, but is fun to drive and has good acceleration. Scorpio engine, is quite good, but the car itself has problems concerning dynamics and stability. Skoda TDi is a good engine too, its not common rail unlike others in the list, but has a good throttle response and immense torque.
The most modern though is the third generation Common rail engine with piezoelectric injectors found in new Fiesta TDCi. You havnt mentioned that engine in your choices.
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Accent CRDI : Highly unrefined three-pot. Old-gen but very fast and FE.
Mahindra Scorpio : Still to be proven. I hear Mahindra has yet to sort them out.
Skoda : Workhorse. Proven. The only non-CRDi here but does the job well.
Elantra : A stonker. The elantras real strength.
Toyota innova : Very refined. Adequate power.
Ford Fiesta : Again very refined. But runs out of breath fast.
Merc 220 / 280 : Live bombs!
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GTO,
What aboutthe E270 CDi?
E280 is the best but is really expensive.
In the lower segment, i would put my money on the Fiesta TDCi.
The most refined diesel ever in the market upto 30L.
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hey what bout the PUMP DUSE in LAURA ? ACI was going gaga over the PD tech.
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My vote goes for the Elantra. It simply rocks and is the best bet for less than 10 lacs.
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Accent CRDI : Highly unrefined three-pot. Old-gen but very fast and FE.
Mahindra Scorpio : Still to be proven. I hear Mahindra has yet to sort them out.
Skoda : Workhorse. Proven. The only non-CRDi here but does the job well.
Elantra : A stonker. The elantras real strength.
Toyota innova : Very refined. Adequate power.
Ford Fiesta : Again very refined. But runs out of breath fast.
Merc 220 / 280 : Live bombs!

Wow..!! Couldn't have put in a better way...

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GTO,
What aboutthe E270 CDi?
E280 is the best but is really expensive.
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The E280CDi just replaced the E270CDi, there is no significant price difference between the two.
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what about the 2.5 V6 TDi of the Superb! That engine ROCKS man!
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I grade diesel engines in terms of reliability (harsh Indian conditions, abuse) and technical excellence without being pricey and applicable to the mass market (that discounts Merc, BMW and Audi). Going by those parameters, I reckon nearly all of the diesels available in India are good enough, but if I have to pick my personal favourites, then here they are:

Obviously, the Fiat 1.3 Multijet ranks 1st in my chart. An engine that never ceases to amaze me! True statement!

Toyota 2.5 D-4D and the 3.0 D-4D rank 2nd for reliability and power.

I can live with a bit of lag in the city but I cannot forgive an engine running out of breath on the highway and that's why I've discounted all SOHC engines (TDCi, dCi) as they aren't free revving (read excellent cruising ability) as the DOHC engines.

I know someone will challenge my statement asking if I've driven an SOHC engine. Yes, I have. Again, it's my cousin's Nissan Micra and I found it lag free in the city but running breathless on the highway.
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Its more than once I've heard piezoelectric injectors as a special feature.

Don't all modern common rail systems use piezoelectric injectors now?

Someone with technical knowhow kindly enlighten me!
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MERCEDEZ BENZ OM615, OM616, OM617. These engines are reliable, fuel efficient, and so durable they outlast the car itself. On top of all that they are very cheap to maintain. there are no complicated sensors and electronics that require experts with laptops for a diagnosis.These are simple, heavy duty, durable and efficient engines.

Edit:I guess i should have read the first post before posting, I thought we were discussing just engines. sorry mates

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Its more than once I've heard piezoelectric injectors as a special feature.

Don't all modern common rail systems use piezoelectric injectors now?

Someone with technical knowhow kindly enlighten me!
Yes, you're absolutely right! All common rail diesel engines come with piezoelectric injectors. It's no more a "special feature" as far as diesel engines are concerned.
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The OP is considering mid segment diesels.maybe to help make a buying decision.

IMHO all modern diesel engines are reliable and are tuned for a particular application.

The fiat multijet - proven beyond doubt.also has 1.5 lakh km warranty /5 years in case of Chevrolet sail.

The Renault k9k - proven by Logan taxis

Toyota diesels proven d4d tech with 1 lakh km/3 year warranty.

Tata diesels- unrefined but proven by commercial and taxi use.

Hyundai diesels - except the original accent crdi hiccups , proven technology

VW/Skoda - proven international technology.

Mahindra- proven crde technology, multitude of Scorpios with 1.5 lakh on the odo.

All the engines do the job well for their intended purpose i e hatch,sedan or high torque SUV.

I don't think the engine alone is a major deal breaker in the choice of vehicles in the market.

Its all a compromise between cost,speed,overall reliability.
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