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Old 3rd October 2006, 19:44   #16
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Diesel is ruled out If person will keep the car for 3-4 years and less than 9K per year usage.

My suggestion to CoolOnil is you go with Corolla Executive or Petrol Verna XI, If you want automatic climate control, alloys go with top end Verna, If you keep it for 3-4 years Verna XI is VFM car for sure If you choose Verna. Verna XI beats CRDi Verna in terms of VFM comparision in this case. Passion Red or White looks excellant with Verna.

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Verna petrol is a good option.
Spend 1L more and you can get the city.
Both will give you good resale.
If you are power thirsty go for the verna as its got more horses.
You can go for city vtec too
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GTO, if his budget is 8.5L. he can buy NHC GXi or Verna CRDi. If he is not bothered about whats under the hood (ie, from end-user perspective), the advantages of buying CRDi are:
1) Lesser cost/Km (Diesel price less than petrol)
2) Higher BHP/Torque & hence better performance
3) Better A.S.S (most would agree Hyundai is better in this aspect)

Have I missed anything? What do you say?
msdivy, yes, you missed resale value. I think you cannot beat difference in resale value of a diesel car with fuel cost reduction.

Anyone else feels differently?
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Old 30th December 2006, 14:12   #19
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I accept pmbabu! Resale value is Good for a Diesel
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Run away from corolla if you want resale value. Toyota has destroyed the brand value with recent price cuts.
For just a 3-4 year period the only cars which make sense are
1. Hyundai Verna
2. Honda City
Both will retain their resale value and will not demand much on the pocket
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CoolOnil, with your annual running of 8K kms, a diesel car is a big waste. Pick up a nice petrol car. And BTW, are you comparing the Ikon (Flair?), the Verna and the Corolla. More like comparing apples & oranges.

Agree about the power, space, A.S.S stuff. But what is the basis for the mileage claim ? Anyone already done FE tests on the Verna ? If we go by the Accent/Getz etc, I don't think the claim is true.
I am not sure what they claim but my verna CRDi is giving an average of 23-25 kM/L. 70% driven on Highway 100% without A/C
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Default fiestas features

does the fiesta has some of the unique features of the fusion which are mentioned here :
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/what-c...tml#post345982

i think fiesta and fusion share the same platform, engine and spares.
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I am not sure what they claim but my verna CRDi is giving an average of 23-25 kM/L. 70% driven on Highway 100% without A/C
It is a very good average rohit. Anyway, Hyundai till now has not made any claims that the mileage of CRDI is 30+ km/litre....
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And BTW, are you comparing the Ikon (Flair?), the Verna and the Corolla. More like comparing apples & oranges.
i think he was thinking of the fiesta, not the flair.

the verna is a good choice. but also see if the NHC fits in.
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Take a test drive of both Verna (Both petrol and diesel) and NHC and check out the features too. Buy one among these which suits you the best. Verna may be a cheaper one to maintain.

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Run away from corolla if you want resale value. Toyota has destroyed the brand value with recent price cuts.
I would not exactly believe that. If the resale is low, that is considering old price (which was higher). For new price, it will still be good resale. Another thing, in India, Toyota and Honda are worshiped like god-sent-gifts. So, Toyota will still hold its value good. And, compared to Verna/Fiesta/City/Fiesta, it packs in much more powerful (and refined?) engine.

Anyway, between Petrol Fiesta and Verna, I'll choose Fiesta. (And, I am NOT paranoid about resale).
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Cool It's Verna

If power is the parameter then the verdit is go for Verna, eyes closed. Verna delivers 110 @ 4000 Vs 68 @ 4000 of Fiesta.

Verna zooms to 100 Kmph in 11.38 comapred to 17.7 of fiesta.
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You should go for Verna if you want Diesel, Maybe you will drive more once you realize the great fuel efficiency coupled with ample power. If you want petrol refinement, go for City. I think your choice should be between these two.
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I would not exactly believe that. If the resale is low, that is considering old price (which was higher). For new price, it will still be good resale. Another thing, in India, Toyota and Honda are worshiped like god-sent-gifts. So, Toyota will still hold its value good. And, compared to Verna/Fiesta/City/Fiesta, it packs in much more powerful (and refined?) engine.

Anyway, between Petrol Fiesta and Verna, I'll choose Fiesta. (And, I am NOT paranoid about resale).

Toyota hasnt cut Corolla prices. Its only launched a stripped down version, isnt that right??
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If power is the parameter then the verdit is go for Verna, eyes closed. Verna delivers 110 @ 4000 Vs 68 @ 4000 of Fiesta.

Verna zooms to 100 Kmph in 11.38 comapred to 17.7 of fiesta.
@Rav, where did u get the 100 kmph figures from?

If diesel is the option you're looking at, I too would vote for the Verna CRDi (Variable Geometry) after seeing these figures:
Max. Power 110 ps @ 4000 RPM (take with a grain of salt), but....
Max. Torque 24 kgm @ 1900-2700 RPM (that's 235 Nm! )

I've heard that the Verna CRDi puts up these impressive numbers due to the turbocharger present in the diesel engine....is this true?

However, for petrol, I would definitely opt for the Fiesta 1.6. It's got more power and mileage than the NHC, and the money that one would save by not going for the NHC can be put towards minor mods and accessories!

PS Mods, sorry if this reply appears twice - net connection was acting up at the time.
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