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Old 13th September 2017, 18:18   #1
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Default Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

Was planning to buy the S-cross once the facelift arrives. The Alpha model of S-cross and the SX model of the Verna are comparable in price.

Pros of S-cross & Cons of Hyundai:
  • Maruti Suzuki brand and customer service. Have owned Swift, Ritz, Alto over the last decade, all bought new and have had phenomenal relationship with the Suzuki brand, showroom people and service personnel
  • Hyundai customer service has been poor. Trident Hosur asked me to come to their showroom for a test drive. After driving from JP Nagar on a Sunday, I was told they only have 1.6 Petrol automatic for test drive while I wanted a 1.6 CRDi manual. Terrible. The SA did not even bother to call back and was rude. He even sent me whatsapp to book early or face price rise. Trident Hyundai Bannerghatta does not allow insurance from outside for new vehicles like Verna, though they were very nice in arranging test drive at my house
  • S-cross: Higher mileage, Higher seating position similar to my Ritz, SHVS is environment friendly
Pros of Hyundai:
  • Much better engine 1.6 vs. 1.3 , 126 bhp vs. 88 bhp - Hyundai is in a different league
  • More power, more torque, more refinement, less noise, more power at lower rpm
  • More boot space, more features

Let me know your thoughts. It is a sedan vs. cross-over. Mods: If inappropriate to this forum, please move out


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Default re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

To me it is quite obvious, the Verna. The reasons have been outlined by yourself in the post.. for a car of that price and size a 1.6 litre engine is a must not to mention that Verna has tremendous refinement (it is an Elantra platform afterall). I've driven both the 1.3 S-Cross and the Verna Petrol and the Verna wins quite comfortably in terms of fit & finish, build quality and quietness. The S-Cross has a taller backseat which is better than Verna but not by much, the elderly may find S-Cross a wee bit better when entering to sit inside the cabin. The Verna 1.6 diesel if I'm not mistaken has 6 airbags, and S-Cross has 2, also I think the current gen Verna has a tighter/stronger build unlike its previous generation, the door shut and weight makes it plenty obvious.

In terms of value for money for the offering the Verna is a much better product and will stand the test of time. As far as service goes I don't think there is a big difference as both brands have equal amount of praises/complaints against them. As far as dealership goes you can consider Advaith or even Blue Hyundai as well.. tell them to bring the car to you and they might oblige.. refusing a car due to one bad salesperson's errors isn't recommended, when I asked for a Vento TSi test drive they brought a Polo to me, likewise when I wanted to test a Ford Aspire at the showroom the guy readily said ok but when I went there they had a Figo.. errors happen and it seems no salesperson is aware that weight/engine/models change the experience of driving completely.

These are the points I'd recommend after thoroughly test-driving both models :

1) Which car's shape do you like? 10 points

2) Which car's interiors do you like? 10 again

3) Engine - 40 points (factors like refinement/torque/response/efficiency for capacity)

4) Which brand are you inclined to buy? - 20 points

5) Safety features+ build? 20 points

S-Cross will be an obvious winner in fuel efficiency, but not much else.

Last edited by dark.knight : 13th September 2017 at 18:50. Reason: Saw that OP specified S-Cross facelift and suitably modified the post.
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Default re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

Since its the S-Cross 1.3, no doubt the Verna would be the better car here, especially when the cost is the same. On par equipment and more importantly a much better engine churning out much more BHP and torque. Verna all the way!!
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Default re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

My choice would be the Verna.

The 1.6 diesel in the Verna is just too hard to ignore.
Whereas, The 1.25 diesel (which will be discontinued in 2-3 years) in the S-Cross is just too hard to digest.

For people in need of ground clearance, pay a slight premium and you can have the Creta, which offers best of both worlds.
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Old 13th September 2017, 21:08   #5
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Default re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

I was in a similar situation and after many test drives in August, booked the New Verna.
The 1.3 DDIS is no match for the 1.6D on the New Verna. Similarly, the New Verna is built way better than S-Cross and offers better ride quality as well.
If it's only FE you are looking at, then you can choose the S-Cross, but you will have to live with a mediocre and noisy engine, average build quality, dull exteriors (even with a facelift), not so good interior!

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Default re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

The new Verna beats it hands down mainly due to that 1.6 CRDI engine. When it comes to features, S-Cross should most probably offer you LED projectors over the Verna, but the Verna has ventilated front seats and all other features should be at par between both these cars. If fuel economy and high ground clearance hold a very importance in your deciding criterion, only then should you go for the S-Cross.

Why don't you consider the Creta? If not the SX(O), then the SX variant is decently loaded. It is a good middle option between both these cars. However, I have taken into account only the products. A.S.S. is something which you need to factor in.
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Default re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

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It is a sedan vs. cross-over.
To me this is what narrows down on the decision. Do you want ground clearance or the comfort that a low slung sedan brings. Have you test driven both the cars? Check out the driving position, the back seats, the ride quality on both of them.

Given that you have mentioned S-Cross and not the same engine bearing Ciaz, I am inclined to think that crossover factor does have some bearing on your mind.

If that is the case, I would highly recommend checking out the Nexon. It should be significantly lower priced, it is good to drive(diesel), and considering tax levied on cars above 10 lakhs, you could save around 3 lakhs on a feature loaded car.
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Default re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

I bought an S cross 1.3 in June after a similar dilemma.Though I'm not unhappy with the car, there have been times I wished I had a bigger engine/more horses. That's where the Verna trumps S cross. The only thing the S cross has going for it is the FE.
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Default Re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

It's a no-brainer choice man. The Verna 1.6 annihilates the S-Cross 1.3.

- Engine - more power, more refinement. The S-Cross' 1.3L feels outdated and isn't suitable at this price point.

- Looks. The new Verna looks fantastic. On the other hand, the S-Cross facelift has one ugly face. I always found the S-Cross to be ugly, but the facelift makes it even more so. I'd never be able to look at it everyday.

- More space, bigger boot etc.

The only two reasons I'd recommend the S-Cross to you are, if the facelift was available with the 1.6L and you were looking at a pure driving machine. But neither of them are the case. Do note that Hyundai has made vast improvements overall in suspension tuning. The brand's current range of cars have very neutral road manners.

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Hyundai customer service has been poor. Trident Hosur asked me to come to their showroom for a test drive. After driving from JP Nagar on a Sunday, I was told they only have 1.6 Petrol automatic for test drive while I wanted a 1.6 CRDi manual. Terrible. The SA did not even bother to call back and was rude. He even sent me whatsapp to book early or face price rise. Trident Hyundai Bannerghatta does not allow insurance from outside for new vehicles like Verna, though they were very nice in arranging test drive at my house
While this attitude sucks, all dealers develop it on a hot new launch. Hyundai owners are generally happy with the after-sales which I consider more important.

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It's a no-brainer as GTO already pointed out. And I don't want to repeat the same points again. I would like to add one more point. The S-Cross has higher risk of failure in terms of sales than a Hyundai Verna and you wouldn't want to end up with a car that isn't selling much and some day it might be phased out due to poor sales. Even if you are considering ground clearance S-Cross isn't the right choice in the current market trend. You can try checking out other options, like Hyundai Creta if ground clearance is a requirement.
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Default Re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

Voted for S-Cross.

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Engine - more power, more refinement. The S-Cross' 1.3L feels outdated and isn't suitable at this price point.

- More space, bigger boot etc.

and you were looking at a pure driving machine. But neither of them are the case. Do note that Hyundai has made vast improvements overall in suspension tuning. The brand's current range of cars have very neutral road manners.
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S-Cross will be an obvious winner in fuel efficiency, but not much else.
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S-cross: Higher mileage, Higher seating position similar to my Ritz, SHVS is environment friendly
I have test driven the recently launched Verna 1.6 diesel.
Here is what I found :
1) Marked improvement in ride quality. Vertical movements were well controlled, atleast in urban driving conditions. Max I did was 80 kmph, but I was at that speed for barely 2-3 seconds. But ride has improved, significantly.

2) Handling and Steering. Hyundai has made improvements. But dead ahead there was certainly amount of play and it felt odd, didn't appreciate it. It was as if the steering wheel wasn't connected to anything. Turning is effortless. Not much of a change as compared to Grand i10 I had for year and half, same feeling. Stable in straight line, excellent braking despite rear drums. Body roll reduced, but then I had limited time and wasn't on open highways.

3) Space. Rear seat space is limited. Took mom along with and she faced the issue of ingress and egress too. What I faced in second generation dzire is present in Verna too. Space between rear seat and B-pillar is less, an inconvenience. City and Ciaz are masters here.

4) Front seats were very comfortable. Am on heavier side just shy of 100 kg.

5) Front visibility from driver's seat is very nice. Relatively lower dashboard cowl helps. Convenient ergonomics.

6) 1.6 CRDi was a bit noisier than expected. But as compared to rivals, it was amazingly refined. We all are aware of how capable this motor is, and I felt that torque was more readily available at lower rpms.

7) Impressive boot space, City and Ciaz have advantage though.

8) Adjustable rear headrests arent' available on lower variants, only on top end variant.

S-Cross advantage:
1) Easier ingress and Egress. Over a period of time, this proves to be a convenience factor.

2) Has and edge in handling, ride.

3) Felt that oveall build is better than Verna, even though Verna has improved.

4) Loses on powertrain department, but its adequate. For highway cruising its good enough, and overtaking on single lane highways isnt' tough at regular highway speeds. And better fuel efficiency too.

S-cross to me is more practical option. Added advantage is service network and part cost. Verna is good, but its certainly not fun to drive. Am not a fan of features that much, skewed towards a better mechanical package. Haven't seen S-Cross facelift in person, but Verna felt more of an facelift that new generation. Verna looks smashing from rear though.

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Default Re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

Voted for Verna 1.6!!

I am an S-cross owner but 1.6. I got S-Cross only because of 1.6 engine and dynamics. I have Grand I10 which has run around 75K km and there is not even single rattle while my 25K km run S-Cross has minor rattling here and there.

Verna 1.6 makes much better sense than S-Cross 1.3. Much more powerful engine, more space, comfortable ride (S-Cross is slightly on stiffer side), bigger boot, better quality interiors

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Default Re: Maruti S-Cross 1.3L Facelift vs Hyundai Verna 1.6L CRDi

Two different segments but it has to be the Verna!

The S-Cross in its current guise had two positive factors – the 1.6 engine, and the almost European type understated looks. The latter will be a thing of the past soon with the toothy face, and with the 1.6 retired it’s just another Suzuki – no USP to brag about.
The Verna on the other hand looks like a step up from its previous avatar; classier, good set of engine choices, and is feature-packed.
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