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Old 26th November 2006, 16:39   #1 (permalink)
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Hi,

Mitsubushi (HM) is offering Executive variant of Select.. It is same
as Select minus music system. Priced at 9.54L on road (bangalore)..
At this price how does it stands against Corolla Executive and
Honda City Vtec.

Cedia Select Executive : 9.54 L (10KPL, ABS with EBD, Air Bags, Alloys,
No music system)

Corolla Executive : 10.07L (Champagne Metallic) ( 9KPL, ABS,
No Air bags, No music System, No Alloys)

NHC Vtec : 9.2L (10KPL, 2 DIN Music System, Alloys, No
ABS, No Air Bags)

And of course there are other parameters to compare - performance, VFM..

Is Cedia worth considering at this price? Key factors for me are :

- FE
- Performance
- VFM
- Long Term Ownership (maintenance)


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Old 26th November 2006, 20:16   #2 (permalink)
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My vote goes for the NHC ...

FE - you have quoted 10 KPL ... some of my friends in Delhi quote close to 14 or 15 after running in period

Performance - I know this is not comparable to the OHC Vtec but still would be adequate to beat most cars ... some sub 12 secs ... 0 to 100 kmh ... also Honda is famous for their engines ...

VFM - I really can't comment on this one ... but resale value seems to be high ... which could be a problem with Cedia ....

Long Term Ownership (maintenance) - Doesn't seem to be a problem with it being very reliable and spares cheaper than most cars in the segment ... refer to Auto Car India November 2006 issue for spare prices

Some people don't like the NHC looks (which is a very subjective point) ... I think if you are OK with the looks please go ahead with NHC Vtec


PS - There is one point we didn't discuss the NHC is not very good at handling high speeds and the Corolla and Cedia would do better here
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Old 26th November 2006, 22:04   #3 (permalink)
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I would go for the cedia. But theres just one problem the spares are very expensive. I read this in last months ACI where the cedia has the highest part rates in it's segment as well as one segment higher.
Mitsubishi also generally adopts this policy they did that with the lancer. Initially parts were costly but down the line they became the cheapest. I'm guessing due to localisation.
Driving pleasure and VFM cedia is the best bet.
It's a highly underrated car so it's going to be a tough call to chose it. But if i were in your place i would have.
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Old 26th November 2006, 22:07   #4 (permalink)
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FE - i think the NHC returns a little better than that. even the corolla returns 10kmpl. Cedia not sure.
Performance - Honda City Vtech is a great performer, the cedia is not far behind. (I have not driven a cedia, but my friend has)
VFM - all 3 cars qualify for that. you get a few more features in the cedia of course.
Long Term Ownership - Hondas & Toyotas have great resale values. Mitsubishi is a let down here.

above all, the Cedia is a great looker, no match with the other 2. Plus it has ABS, Air bags & Alloys. I think that is a good buy. cheers
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Old 27th November 2006, 07:09   #5 (permalink)
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Corolla and Cedia are D-segment cars while NHC isnt. I would rule out the NHC Vtec. Are there no deals going around?

In under a week we will be in Dec and you should be able to get the Corolla for atleast about 30K less or so. Good luck with the nego's
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Corolla and Cedia are D-segment cars while NHC isnt. I would rule out the NHC Vtec. Are there no deals going around?

In under a week we will be in Dec and you should be able to get the Corolla for atleast about 30K less or so. Good luck with the nego's
NHC Vtec.. I saw ad in TOI today.. they are offering free insurance (about 25-30k).
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I think you should should go with the corolla.The cedia is a great car but unfortunately the manufacturer cannot be termed so right now.NHC vs corolla is no comparison to make but only if you want to save a few bucks then yes go for the NHC.
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Hi,

Mitsubushi (HM) is offering Executive variant of Select.. It is same
as Select minus music system. Priced at 9.54L on road (bangalore)..
At this price how does it stands against Corolla Executive and
Honda City Vtec.

Cedia Select Executive : 9.54 L (10KPL, ABS with EBD, Air Bags, Alloys,
No music system)

Corolla Executive : 10.07L (Champagne Metallic) ( 9KPL, ABS,
No Air bags, No music System, No Alloys)

NHC Vtec : 9.2L (10KPL, 2 DIN Music System, Alloys, No
ABS, No Air Bags)

And of course there are other parameters to compare - performance, VFM..

Is Cedia worth considering at this price? Key factors for me are :

- FE
- Performance
- VFM
- Long Term Ownership (maintenance)


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Cedia is better VFM for sure. But seats appeared too soft. That would be pain in long trips.
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Corolla seems quite infamouse for its low mileage and NHC Vtech is not as quick as OHC Vtech. Which leaves Cedia right up your block...go for this one and especially the canary yellow..there are so few of them on road.i am sure your car will stand out . Ofcourse this decision based on you not lookiing at the slightly expensive spares of Cedia compared to others and also not sure if A.S.S of HM improved over the years
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Hi,

Mitsubushi (HM) is offering Executive variant of Select.. It is same
as Select minus music system. Priced at 9.54L on road (bangalore)..
At this price how does it stands against Corolla Executive and
Honda City Vtec.

Cedia Select Executive : 9.54 L (10KPL, ABS with EBD, Air Bags, Alloys,
No music system)

Corolla Executive : 10.07L (Champagne Metallic) ( 9KPL, ABS,
No Air bags, No music System, No Alloys)

NHC Vtec : 9.2L (10KPL, 2 DIN Music System, Alloys, No
ABS, No Air Bags)

And of course there are other parameters to compare - performance, VFM..

Is Cedia worth considering at this price? Key factors for me are :

- FE
- Performance
- VFM
- Long Term Ownership (maintenance)


Thanks.
The Lancer family in India which the Cedia is part of, though technically sound, is not known to have any USP. You're better off going in for the Corolla even if thats the older model between the two. The best choice in that price range, of course, would be the Honda City
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Corolla seems quite infamouse for its low mileage
Are you sure? Every Corolla owner I have spoken to is singing praises - 10 kmpl or more in city with A/C, which is pretty good for a car in that segment.
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I'll go for Corolla with my eyes closed incase am planning to use it for long term . The only thing worryng about it is resale value.
FE - 10 ~ 12
Acc- 0-100 ~9.5 secs
Handling - Good (excet for high speed though better than NHC )
Looks - Subjective
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from the mind id get a honda from the heart i like the cedia much more. the spares expensive but still its something for me. i do have a honda city zx cvt. it is very very good in city driving no doubt about it. its your choice what u want from a car. practically citys better for you.....
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Are you sure? Every Corolla owner I have spoken to is singing praises - 10 kmpl or more in city with A/C, which is pretty good for a car in that segment.
from corollas ive heard 8 max... jigars gives around 4 he says which i dunno if its true. thats in sonata bracket...
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Cedia/Corolla/NHC Vtec? Key factors for me are :
- FE
- Performance
- VFM
- Long Term Ownership (maintenance)
Removing the value for money tag and having only FE,Performance and Long term ownership costs ( In my mind this is a sum of costs incurred during Maintenance and running (FE again)) as the criterion, The NHC Vtec makes pefect sense.

But with the Value for Money tag, The Cedia makes a lot more sense as it has more space,better specs and is a class above the Vtec.

Now throw in Resale value and Snob value along with your above criterion and Viola! It has to be Toyota Corolla.

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