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Old 26th December 2006, 12:40   #16
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Toyota Corolla Manual
  • + Great and responsive engine
  • + Nice rear seat coupled with easy entry and exit to it.
  • + Marginally better FE.
  • - Uninspiring design
  • - Engine not smooth at higher revvs
  • - Dated Interiors
  • - Lower Resale

Honda Civic Manual
  • + 10/10 For looks apart from the tyres/Alloys
  • + Fresh and Modern DEsign
  • + SMooth Engine
  • + Better High speed handling
  • + Great Interiors
  • + Will hold better resale being a new car 2/3 yrs down the lane depending on the next competitor.
  • - Engine not as responsive as Corolla's
  • - Lower Fuel efficiency
  • - A pillar too thick which creates blind spots especially when making quick turns
  • - Rear seat is lower hence getting in and out for old people wont be as comfortable as that in a Corolla.
  • - A tad more expensive since no discounts are available.
  • - Spares are more expensive than that of corolla (not too sure)
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Old 2nd January 2007, 17:26   #17
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Both Civic and Corolla are excellent cars. Depends on your needs and personal viewpoint. I bought a Corolla as I didn't like 2 aspects of Civic that I rated high for myself a). Not scraping speedbreakers b). Left leg touching the handbreak.
Pretty happy with it so far. Done 5900Km in the last 4.5 months with 3 outstation trips. No issues at all so far. Pretty comfortable.
I am not the 'high speed' variety but pretty comfortable to cruise around 100 on good highways or to drive on congested city roads (I am in bangalore).
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Old 2nd January 2007, 19:04   #18
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too many corollas in delhi right now, so i would go for civic.
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I have a H2 Corolla and done 25000 kilometers(self-drive) in the past two years. Here are some of the positives and negatives of the car based on my experience,
Positives,
Very good pick-up, Civic has a higher spec but I heard that it doesn’t feel as peppier as Corolla
Relatively low maintenance cost
Decent fuel economy, Bangalore City Traffic – 8 to 9 kmpl(best 10) and Highway 14 to 15kmpl(best 16)
Good legroom and headroom
Less turning radius, in general drivability of the Corolla in City traffic is really a magic
Good gear shift (except in 1st gear)
Very decent interiors but a bit conventional looking
Big boot
Good ground clearance
Very effective brakes

Negatives,
Too much Body Roll, raised body results in excessive body roll when it goes over un-even roads or when cornering even at moderate speeds.
Fit and finish is not so good.
Doors and Boot don't close properly, you really need to shut them hard
Cabin sound proof not adequate, lot of road noise comes into cabin
Poor visibility especially if you are not a tall person
Poor service, Service bays at Toyota dealers are always crowded with Innovas, I am really disappointed. But it depends on the specific dealer in your town.

Overall, Corolla is a very good conventional looking car. If you are looking for a fresh new design with space-age style interiors then go for Civic, I personally don’t like Civic interiors. I travel a lot and routinely do 140-160kmph on Bangalore - Chennai Express Highway very easily. It definitively gives you the confidence to hit up to 160kmph on highways effortlessly. But the biggest problem is the body roll when negotiating sharp turns, all your confidence will suddenly vanish. It is the limitation of the car and you should be ready to accept it and drive accordingly if you decide to buy Corolla.

A piece of advice if you decide to buy a Corolla, never go to the dealer for any minor rattling in your car. It will only get aggravated after the service. Try to fix small problems yourself as much as possible. This is the hard lesson that I learnt after two years of ownership. Also go for wider tubeless radials, something like 205/60/R15. It definitively improves the handling. I have Michelin Pilot Preceda 205/60/R15, good radials but the tread pattern makes lot of road noise. So be careful when you select your radials.

Also note that my feedback is based on an older Corolla, my Corolla is without ABS, doesn't play MP3s, Ground clearance is 180mm etc. Toyota has done many improvements in new Corollas and addressed most of the problems that were present in older Corollas like mine. Some of the changes in new corollas,
Ground clearance reduced to 170 mm,
Suspension tweaked to control body roll,
Addressed door/boot closing problem, metal sheets added to inner sides of doors
Extra sound proof to control cabin noise

I hope I have not confused you further. Feel free to contact me if you have any specific queries on Corolla.

All the best,
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Old 3rd January 2007, 10:26   #20
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Very nice and accurate summary, novice. I have driven the new corolla and I can tell you that there is still quite a bit of body roll. The boot and doors still feel tinnier than the swift. And what is it really with these cars all having thick A pillars - corolla, civic and swift. One really needs to look out ahead to avoid the blind spots.

As has been said by me and others in the forum, each car always has its pros and cons. It is up to the prospective buyer to take his time and as many test drives it requires and decide.
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Hi all
Didn't want to start a new thread on this, so here goes:

Its for my uncle. Has to be Chauffeur driven. Priorities:

1. Comfortable and spacious
2. Good Legroom
3. Manual gear shift (actually not a priority but a requirement)
4. Good A.S.S.
5. Reliable
6. Effective AC (separete vents for rear preferred)

Cars shortlisted: Corolla, Civic, Cedia, Octavia
Budget: Rs.10~12 lac
So keeping the above parameters in mind, which one you thinks makes for the best choice?

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Old 16th March 2007, 19:23   #22
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@dceite. I would vote for Civic if the car is chauffeur driven, the rear seats are spacious and too good in the civic. The flat bed concept surely is relaxing and gives a comfy feeling.
Civic manual probably falls in you budget?
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Octavia has the least rear leg room space compared to the Corolla and Civic. So that rules it out (though its a very good car). Unless you want good mileage and low cost. Get the diesel.

Cedia and the Civic are driver friendly cars. I have a problem with Cedia as spare parts will be expensive going by HM's past with the Lancer.

Civic does not come with Rear Vents. Neither does the corolla (i hope i'm right)

Both civic and corolla are reliable. just depends on the dealers in your area.

Corolla model is 5 yrs old. New model expected next year.

Though its not there in the list, I would prefer the Innova. You can put King size seats at the back.. get an awesome ICE and since its chauffeur driven, he can stretch his legs and relax.
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The Civic logically seems to be better car to me than Corolla purely becos its a new generation car.
The present corolla belongs to old generation and it will get a facelift very soon and this one phased out eventually.
So its a little bit unfair for Corolla to be compared with this generation of Civic.
Although this Corolla is still a pretty damn good car in terms of performance.
So the true comparison will begin once we have the both of them in their latest avtars.
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Its for my uncle. Has to be Chauffeur driven. Priorities:

1. Comfortable and spacious - Civic
2. Good Legroom - Corolla
3. Manual gear shift (actually not a priority but a requirement) Cedia
4. Good A.S.S.- Toyota
5. Reliable - Toyota and Honda are known for bullit proof reliability.
6. Effective AC (separete vents for rear preferred) Civic has AC vents below the front drivers seats.
The Civic is almost a generation ahead of the other cars, i would surely put my money on a Midnight Hawk Civic
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Civic if self driven. Since that is not your preference the automatic choice is the corolla. seating comfort is better in the rear. the seat height is more. legroom is similar but the hip point is higher making entry and exit easier.

The ride is softer than the civic.

The civic is a gen ahead but the corolla makes sense for chauffeur driven
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Honda Civic is the better buy. Corrola feels a bit outdated. Also you can cosider Cedia. Better take a TD on Cedia.

I think its a battle between Civic and Cedia.
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Ok so the only thing going against the Corolla is that its outdated and a generation behind Civic.
But that hardly matters as long as its the most comfortable and spacious of the lot (or is it?). As i said, neither performance, nor looks/gadgets is as important as the comfort and space.

Whats the "flat bed" concept in Civic?

What about the Cedia? How much that cost on-road? I guess its atleast a lac cheaper than Corolla/Civic? Hows the rear seat comfort in Cedia?
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Whats the "flat bed" concept in Civic?
In a flat bed the whole rear floor is totally flat as the fuel tank has been placed in the front.

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the most comfortable and spacious of the lot (or is it?). As i said, neither performance, nor looks/gadgets is as important as the comfort and space
Then the Octavia is ruled out totally. I think you should check out the Optra as it fills the above criteria perfectly filled in bold.
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Then the Octavia is ruled out totally. I think you should check out the Optra as it fills the above criteria perfectly filled in bold.
Fully agree, the Optra is definitely the most spacious and confortable of the lot. And its ride and NVH levels are top-notch amongst its class.

The engine and gearbox are amongst the low-points, but then it does not matter if he is not going to drive. FE from VGIS is decent, quite comparable to Corolla/Civic.

Go for the Royale - OTR Delhi for 9L, with sunroof and leather.
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