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Old 8th March 2008, 23:45   #76
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upsizing generally improves handling while decreasing comfort.(ok..you may shift from tube type to tubeless tyres..thus nullifying some of the harshness) .a wider tyre picks up more irregularities from the road...and with the same tyre sidewall height..you are bound to feel more bumps from the road....so dont go overboard on upsizing...upsizing reduces pickup, increases ride bumpiness and also improves wet handling and breaking. Make an informed decision!!!
I agree with what you said but that is applicable for regular upsizes wherein your tyre's sidewall height reduces with increased wheel radius and the resulting ride bumpiness is due to reduced sidewall height. I was referring to a specific upsize using a specific tyre i.e., from 195/60/R15 to 205/60/R15 Michelin PP2. Just drive my Corolla once to see what difference it can make to both ride and handling.

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In sales, it is the top seller in its class in the US and 3rd best overall. In quality, see how many recalls it has had (go to NHTSA or Canadian Govt. website). In FE, it is among the highest ranked FE (the Canadian Govt. even gives a $1000 rebate for buying the Corolla).

You want to pay 10 lakhs, and you want the moon for that price. But at its price (US$15-19K), is not the sales of Corolla testimony to its virtues.
That depends on the source of the figures. By many accounts the Honda civic outsells the corolla for most of the last ten years or more. Please also account that signficant sales of Corolla are to the rental companies whereas I have not yet (in my more than dozen trips) seen a Civic at Avis or Enterprise ... And it does feel less composed and "somewhat light" than some of the alternatives

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That depends on the source of the figures. By many accounts the Honda civic outsells the corolla for most of the last ten years or more. Please also account that signficant sales of Corolla are to the rental companies whereas I have not yet (in my more than dozen trips) seen a Civic at Avis or Enterprise ... And it does feel less composed and "somewhat light" than some of the alternatives

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Would be grateful if you could substantiate this statement with some numbers. Data for US is available only upto 2006, and for that year, fleet sales represented 8.5% of Toyota's sales and 5.2% of Corolla's sales. Honda sold 1.3% of its cars to fleet. During 2007, US sales were 371390 for Corolla, and 331095 for Civic.

Perhaps there is a confusion between Toyota and Mitsubishi, which sold 17% of its sales to fleets in 2006.
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Corolla is truly amazing car. Dont worry about highway performance, I have personally driven Corolla HE (champagne mica metallic) at about 150 km/hr on the Mumbai Pune Expressway, and boy she does handle well, and brakes well and fast. As soon as you put your foot on the brakes the speedo climbs down from 150 to 120, further pushing the peddle it comes down to 90 in super fast time.

The drive from Udaipur to Pune with just a night stop at Surat, Corolla just breezes past the slow moving trucks, and yes all the sx4s' and honda citys' just couldnot keep up. Only cars which were able to overtake were the higher ends and the occasional Civic and Ford Fiesta (although a segment lower I was surprised to observe the performance of Fiesta on the highway).
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I agree with what you said but that is applicable for regular upsizes wherein your tyre's sidewall height reduces with increased wheel radius and the resulting ride bumpiness is due to reduced sidewall height. I was referring to a specific upsize using a specific tyre i.e., from 195/60/R15 to 205/60/R15 Michelin PP2. Just drive my Corolla once to see what difference it can make to both ride and handling.
A. My comment was for the same sidewall height..not reduced sidewall height
B. PP2s are GR8 tyres....so maybe you get good cornering performance...however, correct upsize to 195/60R15 is 205/55R15. The corolla already has a very high GC and by further adding to it (205/60 will have a sidewall height greater than 195/60R1...I am unsure that the handling will improve..if anything the body roll will be higher.
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Hey appughar nice pics.But how come there are fog lamps on it.Did you get aftermarket.what all goodies did you get???? also did u put seatcovers or they are original??
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Have come across Corolla special offer at my organisation. The offer for Corolla 1.8 J - HE is Rs.7.50 L ex-showroom for 50 confirmed bookings (otherwise the offer is Rs.7.89L ex-showroom) and the offer is valid till April 30,2008
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they made a 7.5L offer to citibank a year ago. which inspired me to bargain with toyota, but never worked.
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A. My comment was for the same sidewall height..not reduced sidewall height
B. PP2s are GR8 tyres....so maybe you get good cornering performance...however, correct upsize to 195/60R15 is 205/55R15. The corolla already has a very high GC and by further adding to it (205/60 will have a sidewall height greater than 195/60R1...I am unsure that the handling will improve..if anything the body roll will be higher.
Ture...as I mentioned in my previous post the increase in the sidewall height is negligible and well with in the limit. Also the effects of the increased ride height is offset by the performance of Michelin PP2. They provide exceptional road grip. Its difficult to describe that feeling in words, you should drive to experience it.

I am not running Pilot Precedas for the first time, I have used earlier PP1 for almost 50000kms. But the overall improvement(ride, handling and wind noise) that PP2 offers over PP1 is phenomenal.
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Michelin website Michelin India - Home suggests an upsize to 205/55/15 (-1.38%). PP2 for Corolla upsize would be 205/60/15?
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Hey Inder, the answers for your question, refer to the following post
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/long-t...km-report.html (2007 Toyota Corolla 1.8J HE 800 km report)

And by the way I really dont think this car needs any tyre updates, as I have observed that the stock tyres handle perfectly well, whether I am taking a long curve in full speed on the highway, taking a quick overtaking maneuver in a S-curve of a slow moving vehicle the car does just what the driver wants and there is abolutely no lag between driver input and the subsequent car response.
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they made a 7.5L offer to citibank a year ago. which inspired me to bargain with toyota, but never worked.
7.5 is ex shroom , so what will be the OTR?

Also the model mentioned here is base model.

So it really worth to put your money ~8.5 - 9 lkh OTR for this?
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Michelin website Michelin India - Home suggests an upsize to 205/55/15 (-1.38%). PP2 for Corolla upsize would be 205/60/15?
195/60/15 to 205/60/15 is not an issue at all as long as the car has 6" rims. I'm running on 205/60 and so far i'm a happy camper.
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they made a 7.5L offer to citibank a year ago. which inspired me to bargain with toyota, but never worked.
Yup, I work with a bank as well and there was an offer of 8.00 ex-showroom in December 2006. Am sure the offer is better now in 2008.
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