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Old 2nd May 2008, 17:46   #31
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Looks like you have decided on Fiesta

Just kidding ( since i am from Hyundai fraternity)
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Unni,
where have you installed speakers ?in default place.
possible give me the models of speakers u used.any tweeters?
heard in front door speaker size is 5*7 and there is no roof antenna in Zxi?
probably i'll go for platinum or Silver color
Yes, I have installed speakers in the default place. No tweeters. I'm not an audiophile, so cant remember the exact version!!! (Think it is GTO937 back and GTO527 in the front). You are right, there is no OE roof antenna, however, you can fit one pretty easily. The speakers are pretty good... even without tweeters or a sub I'm satisfied with the clarity and depth.
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Looks like you have decided on Fiesta

Just kidding ( since i am from Hyundai fraternity)
No Man.
Still i am in Dilemma.
My wife too bored on Visiting car showrooms and TD's.
Hope i will finalize the car sooooooooooooooooooooon.....
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Hi Pals,
Another confusion.
Got a news from Ford friend that a new Ford Fiesta 1.6TDci is coming soon within 3 months and Ford Ikon is coming with 1.4TDci.
1.6TDci is around 90Bhp and 205NM torque.
Ford Ikon will come with some interior changes

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Hi Pals,
Another confusion.
Got a news from Ford friend that a new Ford Fiesta 1.6TDci is coming soon within 3 months and Ford Ikon is coming with 1.4TDci.
1.6TDci is around 90Bhp and 205NM torque.
Ford Ikon will come with some interior changes
Why don't you wait for 3 months then?
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1.6 TDCI in 3 Months? Yup Ikon is going to have a both interior and exterior facelift along with the 1.4 TDCI. 1.6 TDCI should be awesome. Verna & Competition watch out!
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Depends on what is your priority (power vs FE) and kind of use (city vs highways).

If you are going to do mostly city driving and are conscious about FE, the Fiesta is the one for you. While the Fiesta is definitely lower on power, it sure is enough for city conditions and the normal highway runs. I would take the Fiesta-D of the two.
Biju, you cant accept a corporate entity..can you?: Just kidding man, chill.

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If you already have a Verna CRDi at home, why buy another one ? Try out the Fiesta. Anyway, as you said, take a testdrive of both and decide based on whichever appeals to you overall.



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The versions of Verna and Fiesta that you have mentioned has its own merits. Verna has more power and if that is what has you thinking which to choose, easier would be to think how much of a difference that power is going to make.

On a day to day basis, it doesn't make much difference. Stop and go traffic will not let you exercise that power to the hilt. If you look at FE (that is if you are running things on a budget), it makes sense here. Fiesta gives more FE than Verna in city, while on highway the margin between the two is less. I own a Fiesta and can tell you that it does not feel under-powered and can attain good speeds, handles well and is stable. I have taken it till 140kmph and then ratted out!!! It had more left to go on. Only negative would be the absence of ABS in Zxi.

My highway use is more than city use as I keep travelling to my home town in Kerala from Bangalore, and it has given me consistent 20kmpl or above, with AC on always. Ford service till now has been a good experience for me (touch-wood maybe, based on what I read here).
The Ford struggles above 120 kph..the Verna rocks here. So if one is inclined to be below 120 kph, go for the Fiesta, else Verna

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1.6 TDCI in 3 Months? Yup Ikon is going to have a both interior and exterior facelift along with the 1.4 TDCI. 1.6 TDCI should be awesome. Verna & Competition watch out!
Knowing Ford, They hardly stick to time schedules, i guess its going to take more time!
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isnt 90 BHP less for 1.6 tdci?? it should been 100+ BHP to give real competition in terms of performance
but the engine refinement is top notch
i drive my friend's 1.4tdci a lot and recently on a trip to jaipur the car was really struggling to go over 155KPH(we were 6 in total). The car is not made for straightline performance(this is where i missed my OHC a lot) and even santros gave a good fight on highways. But the high speed stability is best in class without a doubt. Even at 150 it felt rock solid.
1.6tdci should improve its highway driveability. Current one is an excellent city cruiser with great low end response.
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Ashish,
I browsed for 1.6TDci it reaches 60mph in 11.2 secs.
96.56064 kmph in 11.2 secs and returns some good FE.
Pals,
Any one has idea about the launch of 1.6 TDci Fiesta or 1.4 TDci Ikon.
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Any one has idea about the launch of 1.6 TDci Fiesta or 1.4 TDci Ikon.
April Overdrive had mentioned that Ikon facelift with 1.4TDCI would be launched around August. I dont see Fiesta 1.6TDCI being launched anytime soon. When you had mentioned about Fiesta 1.6 TDCI launch in 3 months i was quite surprised. But May be Ford wants to launch the 1.6 TDCI soon so that Ikon can get the 1.4 TDCI.
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Biju, you cant accept a corporate entity..can you?: Just kidding man, chill.
Corporate entity ? As in 'Hyundai' ? I have nothing against Verna, but just that I happen to be more an FE guy than a 'drag' guy. So was making the options clear to the thread starter.
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@aks_karthik: Just check into Ford's history in India. IMHO, their launches do well in their initial stages. Case to be noted the Ford Escort, did some good sales on launch. Where are they now in terms of resale value? Same is the case with the Ford Ikon, did well, sold quite a few numbers and is still selling, but at what price. The used car values for the Ikon are despairing to say the least.

Compare the history of Hyundai's and you might notice that the resale values on these cars are much better compared to Fords. The Santro commands quite a good resale value over a similar Year / make of Ikon. Check your local newspaper classifieds to confirm the same. While at it do check to see how many Verna CRDi's are available for sale, am sure you would not find many in the market. Atleast, this is the scenario in Hyderabad.

If resale value is not of much importance to you go ahead with Ford. This is just my view and the reason for not considering the Fiesta when I made my purchase. May be totally wrong but give it a thought.
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leave the power out of the picture,
just think of interior space and After Sales Service and SPARE Parts COST - always lower , the best part is that all the parts are readily available!!
simply close your eyes and head straight to hyundai

imagine doing a 220kmph!!! on L&T bypass and still get a mileage of 16kmpl(most insane driving i have ever done) Hyundai verna is the car for you.

and please dont overlook the fact that verna has got all round discs for ABS version.
its got two sides a good one and a bad one,
good thing car comes to halt like hitting a wall its awesome!! thumbs up.
the bad side is you might get hit from the rear coz your those who are in your rear side wont stop as fast you would, untill now in city my dad was hit from the rear by scooters twice, due to this sudden Brakes, no damage though thanks to the shell design of the bumpers.

but Fiesta has Airbags!!! if you are looking for more safety after an actual crash happens then take Fiesta if you looking at avoiding crashes the better bet is verna.

hope this clears your doubts.
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@aks_karthik: Just check into Ford's history in India. IMHO, their launches do well in their initial stages. Case to be noted the Ford Escort, did some good sales on launch. Where are they now in terms of resale value? Same is the case with the Ford Ikon, did well, sold quite a few numbers and is still selling, but at what price. The used car values for the Ikon are despairing to say the least.

Compare the history of Hyundai's and you might notice that the resale values on these cars are much better compared to Fords. The Santro commands quite a good resale value over a similar Year / make of Ikon. Check your local newspaper classifieds to confirm the same. While at it do check to see how many Verna CRDi's are available for sale, am sure you would not find many in the market. Atleast, this is the scenario in Hyderabad.

If resale value is not of much importance to you go ahead with Ford. This is just my view and the reason for not considering the Fiesta when I made my purchase. May be totally wrong but give it a thought.
You may be right about the Escort, but I am disinclined with your views on other Ford models. Comparision should be on a level playing ground, so an Ikon should be compared with the resale value of an Accent, not Santro.
This apart, the Fiesta is a different ball game than other Ford models, and commands decent resale value. It is better to compare the resale value of a diesel Fiesta with a diesel Verna, as and when such models are available for resale.
Unfortunately, we don't have sufficient statistics to prove either point.
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leave the power out of the picture,
just think of interior space and After Sales Service and SPARE Parts COST - always lower , the best part is that all the parts are readily available!!
simply close your eyes and head straight to hyundai

imagine doing a 220kmph!!! on L&T bypass and still get a mileage of 16kmpl(most insane driving i have ever done) Hyundai verna is the car for you.

and please dont overlook the fact that verna has got all round discs for ABS version.
its got two sides a good one and a bad one,
good thing car comes to halt like hitting a wall its awesome!! thumbs up.
the bad side is you might get hit from the rear coz your those who are in your rear side wont stop as fast you would, untill now in city my dad was hit from the rear by scooters twice, due to this sudden Brakes, no damage though thanks to the shell design of the bumpers.

but Fiesta has Airbags!!! if you are looking for more safety after an actual crash happens then take Fiesta if you looking at avoiding crashes the better bet is verna.

hope this clears your doubts.
peace out
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If it is just about speed (220 kmph if a newbie's claim is to be believed ), then you must go for verna, no doubt on that.. BUT, if we are talking about handling, cornering, decent mileage, better built, and city driving pleasure (not the pleasure of speed) etc, then Fiesta Diesel is the way to go for, mate... The things going for this Hyundai over the Ford would be the relatively better A.S.S, addictive turbo kick and possibly, resale

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