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Old 17th November 2008, 13:30   #196
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If i had short-listed down my choice to these two cars. It would be clearly a 1.6S that i would choose mainly due to the reason of its extremely sporty looks, great engine and fantastic handling ability. Ford A.S.S is something i would have compromised on with a heavy heart.

Also, the Fiesta 1.6S in that new blue color is simply mind-blowing
I agree 100%. Sometimes I feel I should have waited for a year and a half before buying the 1.6 sxi. The only solace I have is better interiors in the sxi, especially at the rear bench (neck rests and arm rest), when compared to the 1.6 S
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I agree 100%. Sometimes I feel I should have waited for a year and a half before buying the 1.6 sxi. The only solace I have is better interiors in the sxi, especially at the rear bench (neck rests and arm rest), when compared to the 1.6 S
I don't think you should feel that way. Remember, new cars/models always keep coming out. We have to take a stand some where and pick up the one we wanted at that point in time based on our requirements.
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@AE & Vnabhi- Lets stick to Fiesta S vs ANHC .
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@AE & Vnabhi- Lets stick to Fiesta S vs ANHC .
Agree with Karan.

Now that ANHC is available for TD, did any of you Fiesta guys try out the ANHC? If you have not I suggest you should. And come back with a honest feedback.
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The ANHC looks glossy , aggressive and a show off to me. The subtle grace and quiet charm is missing and the car tries too hard to impress. May be good to drive etc but I would prefer a 'not so loud look' vehicle. Blatant showoff is neither my style nor it suites my seniority.
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Agree with Karan.

Now that ANHC is available for TD, did any of you Fiesta guys try out the ANHC? If you have not I suggest you should. And come back with a honest feedback.
Ignorance is bliss - atleast as long as it lasts.
I don't think they should specifically go out and do an anhc td. I mean they have made their decisions, let them enjoy. whether the anhc is better or not should not matter to them as much as us. Unless ofcourse by chance they land up for a td with some other friend who wants to buy and then by some freak chance they figure anhc is way way better (slim chance that happening but why take the risk)
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Ignorance is bliss - atleast as long as it lasts.
I don't think they should specifically go out and do an anhc td. I mean they have made their decisions, let them enjoy. whether the anhc is better or not should not matter to them as much as us. Unless ofcourse by chance they land up for a td with some other friend who wants to buy and then by some freak chance they figure anhc is way way better (slim chance that happening but why take the risk)

Whoa Jatin, nothing like that mate. Infact I did go for a TD to the Deccan Honda dealer in Pune last week, unfortunately the showroom was closed due to the sad demise of some relative of the MD.
I'll go for the ANHC TD again this week and definitely and post my feedback with what I feel are the pros and cons in comparison with the 1.6S.
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Darn, this is stupidity. Wasted my time driving all the way to Deccan Honda for a test drive today.
Drove off to Deccan Honda in my Fiesta 1.6S, met the salesman at the counter. Told him I wanted to have a TD of the ANHC, the sales guy was like "hmmmm, we don't have a manual drive car for TD, but I got an auto transmission, do you know how to use Auto transmission ? "
Told him of course I do. He then told me, "well wait for a few minutes and I'll get the car keys and come back."
I strolled to the front parking of the dealership, saw a red ANHC with "UP" registered temporary plates, was the S-AT. Guess it was the TD car.
The sales man turned up after 10 minutes (Wonder what takes so darn long to get car keys, I bet it was the discussion with his boss whether a TD can be given to a 1.6S owner) and said "Sir sorry the S-AT car is not a TD car, that is the company car". Next he asks me, "what car do you own ?" I said the Fiesta, and he goes on, "oh yes the Blue one in front, I saw it".
Darn I knew the reason outright, he told me to leave my cell number with him and he'll tell me when I can take a TD. No way I want to set foot in that dealership again or purchase a crappy Honda product ever.
I wonder what the Honda dealer was so worried about ? Were they worried with the crappy drive that the car might offer to someone who was already used to driving the 1.6S ? Anyways no way am I also gonna recommend the ANHC to any of my friends, some of them who already asked me for a feedback. The dealers suck, the car even more so.
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No way I want to set foot in that dealership again or purchase a crappy Honda product ever.
I wonder what the Honda dealer was so worried about ? Were they worried with the crappy drive that the car might offer to someone who was already used to driving the 1.6S ? Anyways no way am I also gonna recommend the ANHC to any of my friends, some of them who already asked me for a feedback. The dealers suck, the car even more so.
Glenn, I see no reason for you to blame the car. I would not comment much on your experience at Honda dealer. I could just call it bad luck. It would be better if you could blame the dealer instead of just going overboard and commenting on the car which you havent driven.
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Glenn, I see no reason for you to blame the car. I would not comment much on your experience at Honda dealer. I could just call it bad luck. It would be better if you could blame the dealer instead of just going overboard and commenting on the car which you havent driven.
Karan, the decision to go for a product or not to go for a product is very often dependent on the dealerships/A.*.*. Anyways the Honda dealerships in Pune is a total monopoly and can kill any product that they sell in such conditions.
One of the very reasons a lot of people had apprehensions about going in for the Ford products initially, though now I believe they have improved a lot based on feedback from friends.
The dealership/A.*.* is something that does add a lot to the points you give to a car. You have a crappy dealership/A.*.* and the feeling permeates to the car too eroding it's very intrinsic value.
When it comes to the ANHC, Honda's doing nothing other than fleecing it's customers raw, forget driving the car, IMHO the car just isn't Value For Money (VFM). Even after charging a premium over it's competitors they have skipped on so many different essentials in the car and providing most of them at a large premium which would take the car into Civic territory. .
Rest assured (after reading the Nov. Issue of TopGear too), if I do TD the ANHC in future, I'm sure I'm not going to come across too very excited with the engine or the drive for that matter.
Anyways, looking at your profile picture, have you booked the ANHC ? If so, pls. don't pay heed to my comments, and wish you all the best with your car when you do get the delivery.
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…I wonder what the Honda dealer was so worried about ? Were they worried with the crappy drive that the car might offer to someone who was already used to driving the 1.6S ? Anyways no way am I also gonna recommend the ANHC to any of my friends, some of them who already asked me for a feedback. The dealers suck, the car even more so.
The Honda dealer has reasons to worry. He obviously does not want to waste his time and TD costs on someone he thinks is not going to buy. He is right in terms of his approach in qualifying those walking in with enquiries as genuine or not. If you agree that you made a tactical mistake in the way you approached the whole thing, then you should blame the dealer.

Well, on the car – avoid calling out the extremes till you experience it fully. I also haven’t driven it yet, but would not think it is a bad car. Only that it is not priced right and not good enough VFM in comparison. And probably targeted for a different audience compared to the Fiesta S. But still there are people who don’t care much about the VFM and are ready to spend more.

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has honda ever officially dropped prices of its models like ford ( escort/mondeo/ikon/fusion/fiesta). will someone kindly correct me if i am wrong??
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has honda ever officially dropped prices of its models like ford ( escort/mondeo/ikon/fusion/fiesta). will someone kindly correct me if i am wrong??
Well, just a week back they dropped the price of Civic hybrid by 8lacs fooling all those who bought it at 22L.
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Karan, the decision to go for a product or not to go for a product is very often dependent on the dealerships/A.*.*. Anyways the Honda dealerships in Pune is a total monopoly and can kill any product that they sell in such conditions.
One of the very reasons a lot of people had apprehensions about going in for the Ford products initially, though now I believe they have improved a lot based on feedback from friends.
The dealership/A.*.* is something that does add a lot to the points you give to a car. You have a crappy dealership/A.*.* and the feeling permeates to the car too eroding it's very intrinsic value.
When it comes to the ANHC, Honda's doing nothing other than fleecing it's customers raw, forget driving the car, IMHO the car just isn't Value For Money (VFM). Even after charging a premium over it's competitors they have skipped on so many different essentials in the car and providing most of them at a large premium which would take the car into Civic territory. .
Rest assured (after reading the Nov. Issue of TopGear too), if I do TD the ANHC in future, I'm sure I'm not going to come across too very excited with the engine or the drive for that matter.
Anyways, looking at your profile picture, have you booked the ANHC ? If so, pls. don't pay heed to my comments, and wish you all the best with your car when you do get the delivery.
Well you have every reason to blame the dealer. My only question was how could you call the car crappy & stuff without driving? You are more than happy with your Fiesta S so you dont have to be too excited after driving the ANHC. Take a chill pill & enjoy your Fiesta S.

Well im not in the market for a car now thanks to recession. I will be in the market after March 09 i guess. Maybe a Fiesta TDCI or a ANHC (maybe a Linea too!!!) .







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Well, on the car Ė avoid calling out the extremes till you experience it fully. I also havenít driven it yet, but would not think it is a bad car. Only that it is not priced right and not good enough VFM in comparison. And probably targeted for a different audience compared to the Fiesta S. But still there are people who donít care much about the VFM and are ready to spend more.
Would agree with you ANHC is not a pure VFM. It looks just a class above ANHC but doesnt justify with the goodies its got compared to Fiesta or some other cars like SX4 & all.
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The Honda dealer has reasons to worry. He obviously does not want to waste his time and TD costs on someone he thinks is not going to buy. He is right in terms of his approach in qualifying those walking in with enquiries as genuine or not. If you agree that you made a tactical mistake in the way you approached the whole thing, then you should blame the dealer.

Well, on the car – avoid calling out the extremes till you experience it fully. I also haven’t driven it yet, but would not think it is a bad car. Only that it is not priced right and not good enough VFM in comparison. And probably targeted for a different audience compared to the Fiesta S. But still there are people who don’t care much about the VFM and are ready to spend more.
Hi Path_finder - thats not how sales works and that is not how they qualify - theres always a chance that autoenthu was looking for a 2nd car for his wife/parents/family or testing for his friends (like he mentioned). If this is how they behave then they don't deserve to be a honda dealer.
I would still say this is a bad dealer and not an honda anhc issue, but however if the real issue as autoenthu comprehended is that the dealer is scared of getting compared to fiesta 1.6s (maybe from reading tbhp/topgearmag) then yes the anhc is not upto the mark !!
In my opinion (although i am not in sales, i do work with a lot of sales teams for the last few years), honda dealer refusing a td to a fiesta 1.6s owner is them being scared vs good qualifying. When you refuse trial of a product you want to sell, to an existing owner of a competitor product, it is plainly lack of confidence in your own product. Otherwise there is always an opportunity to win someone over (maybe not for a direct replacement but indirectly for a 2nd purchase or recommendation to friends, etc)
Then again, maybe Glenn felt wrongly and the dealer really didn't have a td car or maybe the keys fell down the toilet drain

Glenn - appreciate your passion to td and give us all a good review - not worth the hassle given the joke the pune honda dealer is though !!

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