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Old 1st November 2008, 23:42   #1
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Default IKON 1.8 ZXI Or City With CNG?

Guys I Am in A dillema. My Mom Has Finally given her consent and not to forget Vitamin M To fund my Move from My bullet to 4 wheels. (Am still in college)

My Budget : 4,00,000/Rs (No Leeway for any more)

Daily commute of 60 kms

Choices
1. A decent Honda city 1.5 (2002-2003) Will get a CNG Kit fitted.

2.My Buddies 2003 Ikon 1.8 ZXI Which Has done a genuine 78000kms and has no accidental history and is a clean car which i can vouch for (have hitched a ride to college for the past 3 years in that car)

he is a very close friend and he has not quoted a price but i was thinking of about 2.5 Lakhs. Is this Ok??

with the remaining Moolah i was planning on some nice ICE and alloys Plus on pre emptive maintanence..

I am inclined towards the Ikon I know its a clean car and the Ac is an absolute chiller But people dont think to highly of the ikon. Could the Gurus please enlighten me on the Pitfalls If any with the Ikon.

The new car will be with me for not MOre than 3 years and the resale is not an issue.

Are the IKOn Spares Expensive?? and what should i Look out for on the IKON with regards to problem areas and maintanence.

Guys Looking forward for your replies.

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Hi my recommendation for you will be don't go for a used car. Is there a real need of Sedan car to you. My recommendation in your budget will be Chevy Spark or Hyundai i10. TD both cars having great power and FE.
If you still want to go for used car Ikon 1.8 which is a Diesel car I think Ikon will be more fun to drive compared to City. But it is true to say a 78000 km done car can be high on maintenance. Few parts of car are expensive and usually you will have to have some budget for maintenance of the car. Now coming to the price point, Ikon diesel 78000 Km done and 6 years old should not be worth more then 1 Lacs to me(I might be wrong).
But I can say this am I am getting no more then 1 Lacs for my 8 years old Ikon 1.6 Zxi with only 40000 Km done. And according to me resale value of diesel is much less the a petrol car.
On the other hand Honda City is usually low on maintenance and running cost will be low on CNG. But driving is an issue if you like a real performance car.

Now if you don't want to go for a new car my final verdict for you is:
If you want car for city traffic based driving go for City. But if you conceder highway driving go for Ikon but at a price much lower then city.

Hope this will help you make decision.
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Old 2nd November 2008, 21:37   #3
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Thanks For the Suggestion Vikcho actually I Will mostly be using the car in the city. and i know the ikon 1.8 comes no where close to The Honda in terms of performance.

I checked the quote on Carrwale and for the condition that the IKON Is in it quoted 2.3 lakhs. I know till now there have been no issues with his car and he has maintained it impeccably. If you could give me some info regarding the servicing and maintanence as to what might be immediate areas of concern i would be greatfull.

Regarding The honda city the only issue is i have zero knowledge on how to make out if the car is a lemon or not and hence am a little apprehensive of whether i might get a good car or not. But eventually if i find out that the ikon 1.8 is not a good choice I would have to take my chances With a Used Honda city.
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My advice to you will be go for a new car. As I think the car will be your first car, so don't go for a used one until a Hatchback do not fulfill all your requirement.
Now tell me are you talking about OHC (1st Gen.) or NHC (2nd Gen.). Now NHC is not close to Ikon in pickup as Ikon is much more powerful then NHC but OHC is close. OHC is much more powerful then NHC where else NHC is much more economical to run.
Now coming to CarWala the prices it says no one gets. It says my Ikon should be valued around 1.75 Lac but when I went to Bagga Link to exchange it for SX4 they valued my car at 60,000 + 30,000 for exchange bonus. Can you belive a car valued at 1.75 lacs going for 90,000 only including exchange bonus.
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hey if its between these two then I would say go for the city. the 1.8D ikon is not the greatest performing car and spares will be a hassle as well. I know it. I had a 1.8D escort. So the city would be a better option. Be careful and check the city before buying. Some older city's have been badly abused and critical components would be pricey.

I also agree with vikcho, if your budget is 4 lacs go for a new small car. as it is you are a college student and will be using it in the city. We just bought a spark for my mom and its a great car. The top end LT version is 3.64OTR Ahmedabad. Santro, i10, wagon r and u-va also fall under 4L if you get good discounts (U-VA).

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I would say pick up a used City and enjoy it's comfort with CNG. Used Ikon are usually known for heavy maintenance bills which will be actually very heavy on your college going pocket

If you don't mind CNG filling queues, HONDA + CNG is the best combo for you
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If its only between the 2 cars - I would say - go for the known DEVIL rather than the unknown ANGEL

and please DONT even think of putting a CNG tank on the ANGEL's lap - would be a complete waste of going for the ANGEL

if on the other hand, you are open to looking for other cars, then you have so many to consider - but going by your post - it looks like you are in no mood to go around shopping and verify the credentials of cars you come across

just check what kind of maintenance package is on offer from FORD for this IKON
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i can vouch for OHC 1.5 with CNG. Infact performance wise this car can still out drag many competitve cars(have personally smoked quite a no. of verna diesels on highways on petrol )
Although on CNG there is a performance drop but still it behaves well and runs smoothly. Infact with proper CNG installation(Lambda+TAP) you can bring performance pretty close to petrol. And whenever you are in boy racer mood you can always switch on to petrol instantly and enjoy the actual performance of the car.

You can easily get let of options for OHC in used car market. So just do your research and search hard, you will definately get a good piece. Better contact honda dealers i'm sure they will have couple of used OHCs.
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Thanks For the Help guys. Much appreciated

Ashish I know the city would be able to smoke quite a few cars but i have started driving very sedately nowadays trying to save my pocket money from going into Fuel bills

Narayan Could You please tell me Which is The Know devil and which is the unknown angel i am bit confused on that part???
Also its not that i am not intrested in looking for cars its just that any half a decent car that i have looked at have been quoted at astronomical prices, I just saw a golden 1.5 2001 city 2nd owner with 70000 on the odo for 3.75 I was like what the hell!!! Also it was non negotiable and the car was ok types not that bad or that great.

Have checked at ford Service an average service with all consumables comes out to around 3500/ This at a local mechanic would be cheaper.

Also My friend had all the belts changed when the car had clocked 60K
I do not forsee any major repairs very soon. So i might get the Ikon this Sunday for 2.4 lakhs jus needs service as of now.
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On the face of it should have been OHC over IKON, but given that IKON is from a known and trusted source, I think you did the right decision. Trusted source is an extremely important aspect in buying a pre-owned car and make no compromises here. So congrats on your decision. Post your user experience after getting it serviced.
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Definite 'No' to the 1.8 Ikon. I have owned an Ikon before, albiet not the 1.8 version. I have heard negative feedback from all quarters of this particular version.

A 2003 specimen should sell well below the 2 Lakh figure BTW. My choice would be the City.
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I have owned an Ikon beforeA 2003 specimen should sell well below the 2 Lakh figure BTW.
car'zy, just curious, What do you own now?

I suggested the Ikon mainly because it is from a close and trusted source. This is a diesel, so many not be <2L, but yes 2.4L seems to be on the higher side.
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car'zy, just curious, What do you own now?

I suggested the Ikon mainly because it is from a close and trusted source. This is a diesel, so many not be <2L, but yes 2.4L seems to be on the higher side.


Well, I own nothing now!! Its been three months figuring out what to buy although I had booked a Fiesta S. I'm planning to make this decision by this month for its been a struggle without a car. It could very well turn out that I join your club with the Cedia!

On the Ikon, I know its a deisel, but have seen some going for really low, I guess not many people buy it. The 1.6 and the 1.3 sells easier. And,
I agree on familiarity factor, lot of points for that.
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Hi Born To Be Wild, Do check out the Auto Terrace from Honda before you make your final call. I believe they have some sort of stall set up for used honda cars in Sec 25 Spice mall parking at Noida on 8th and 9th of November.
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Avoid the Ikon.
The 1.8 is a slouch. Also 2.4L is a bit oo much for that car given that the new 1.4 TDCi retails for 5.19L ex showroom Delhi.
Here are some other suggestions:
- Used Lancer D
- Used Logan (these are available)
- New hatchback - Santro CNG? WagonR LPG? Spark? Indica Vista?
A new car will be much more reliable than a highly run used car. Given indian road conditions, a used car will start showing its age soon and will be begging for attention. If you want a car which you will use for a few years (3-5 years), a new one is the way to go.
If you want a car for a year, a 70K City would suffice.
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