Dzire Zdi or Fiesta Zxi Tdci - help please.

[bullboy]

One of my friend booked Dzire Zdi 4 months back still there is no clue that when the car will be delivered.

So with the current price cut in Fiesta series it looks like a good buy to me .
He is will to pay the extra for Fiesta. Also he intends to keep the car for minimum 5 yrs.
But need some help in this regard.
1) Is fiesta (68bhp tdci) a better buy over DZire in terms of reliability.
2)cost of ownership will be high in fiesta but will it be that huge compared to Zdi.
3)Also Someone was mentioning about suspension problem/Ground clearance for fiesta like body will scrap when driven over bumps.
4)Heard about gear box getting stuck in fiesta .
5) Overall which will be a better buy

[aaggoswami]

Ask him to talk firmly about the Dzire.
IMO, Dzire is a better buy out of the two as it has got more responsive motor, better FE and the support from A.S & S. will prove to be good in long term.

1) Yes, as far as mechanical reliability Dzire does have an upper hand, but is not that Fiesta will crop up some problem.

2) IMO, it wont be that huge, but will be more than reasonable. Also here the A.S & S. factor steps in.

3) A small experience : On 7-Dec, during a relative's marriage, my uncle came here in Fiesta ( bought before looks upgrade ) 1.6. I had to drive that car more than 100 kms in city mostly over poor roads and 80 % of the time, total 5 passengers were there.

The car would scrap its underbody on poor roads ( deep potholes, etc ) and on high bumps. The same roads and bumps did not have any effect on Baleno or Maruti 800. So I would like to say that yes, the ground clearence issue was there.

4) Gearbox issue was not there. Perfect shifts along with good chassis are good points of Fiesta.

5) IMO, the Dzire will be better buy mainly due to engine, A.S & S. and FE.

[bullboy]

I suppose driving and ride comfort will be more in fiesta and will be roomier.

[Autocop]

When he booked Dzire he must have made up his mind for it. Dzire ZDI is a complete package backed by a strong service. Since he has already waited for 4 months I think he better stick to the Dzire. Apply pressure on the dealer. Refer other threads related to Swift/Dzire purchase to learn how to handle/escalate delivery delays within Maruti hirarchy.

[karanraheja]

Originally Posted by bullboy

One of my friend booked Dzire Zdi 4 months back still there is no clue that when the car will be delivered.

So with the current price cut in Fiesta series it looks like a good buy to me .
He is will to pay the extra for Fiesta. Also he intends to keep the car for minimum 5 yrs.
But need some help in this regard.
1) Is fiesta (68bhp tdci) a better buy over DZire in terms of reliability.
2)cost of ownership will be high in fiesta but will it be that huge compared to Zdi.
3)Also Someone was mentioning about suspension problem/Ground clearance for fiesta like body will scrap when driven over bumps.
4)Heard about gear box getting stuck in fiesta .
5) Overall which will be a better buy

Since he has waited for so long , i guess he should wait for some more time unless the wait period is killing him.
1. In terms of reliability Dzire wins hands down
2. Yup cost of ownership should be higher, but he can opt for the maintenance plan from Ford.
3. I have driven the Fiesta , but i personally havent experienced any GC problems.
4. Again no issues found in gearbox. I think its slick.
5. Fiesta scores on better interiors, looks , feels a class above. Fiesta does look over priced now that Ikon has the same engine is almost 1.5 lacs cheaper.Dzire has all the bells and whistles and Maruti back up. I would suggest he should wait for some more time before cancelling the Dzire.

[bullboy]

Thanks guys will advice him to stick with dzire .Read in T-bhp itself that fiesta is also going to have a model replacement somewhere by 2010.

[anjan_c2007]

Swift DZire VDi anyday and not the Fiesta ZXiTDCi. The Fiesta is a good car. But the service back-up and spares costs and availability are nothing worth writing about. as a result the Ford cars depreciate most rapidly.Escorts are available for under Rs 60-70K. Ikons are available for under Rs 2L, be it a 2003 or 2004 model.I am sure the Fiesta will also go the Escort and Ikon way.
And even the Maruti Esteem of 1997 (contemporary of the Escort) today sells for Rs 90K to Rs 1 L.
So even if we don't bother about resale prices, these are an index and barometer to gauge any car's worthiness.

[thedreamcatcher]

The Fiesta is a much better car than the Dezire. It has got a very responsive engine and a sporty feel to it.

It would have been different if you were going in for the SX4 however, as the two are in the same category.

[izzy]

I feel some people here are praising the dzire considering the success of the swift diesel. Dzire, I must say has the most horrible handling on highways. People at Maruti should hav known that making a sedan is not as easy as jus attaching a boot to their highly successful hatch back. the car has poor road grip and complaints of rattling from the body.

yes the engine is excellent, and so is the price for the package on offer, but for a person who is looking for a performance oriented car with good comfort and basic works, the Dzire is completely a put off. on the other hand we have the ford fiesta with superb drivability, solid feel, great looks and low running costs as well (engine comes with 2yr warranty!!!). the fuel economy of the fiesta is a proven fact. im not very sure of the GC problems but as mentioned before, factors such as 5 persons on board with pot holes and high breakers are bound to scratch the base of most of the cars i feel. the gear box is just as good as the Dzire and no issues there.

I must admit, I am prejudiced against the Maruti's, but thats only cause of the disatisfaction with the service advisorer's attitude and also the exterior refinement of every Maruti car. Ive got 2 Ford Endeavours and have done 2lac kms on one of em, the car is as good as new and gives the feelin that it might go for another 2lacs without having to touch the engine (which is also why we considered buying another one!!!)
Final Say: Go for the Fiesta if Initial Investment is not much of a factor.

[dushmish]

Originally Posted by izzy

Dzire, I must say has the most horrible handling on highways. People at Maruti should hav known that making a sedan is not as easy as jus attaching a boot to their highly successful hatch back. the car has poor road grip and complaints of rattling from the body.

The stock tyres do not provide a good handling but changing to something like Michelin XM1+ has changed the behaviour of the car completely. The grip on the road is superb and the cabin is as silent as it can get. No tyre noise at all. The rattles are all due to the stock tyres. I haven't experienced any in my 5 months and 10,000 km of driving it on BAD roads.

Originally Posted by izzy

yes the engine is excellent, and so is the price for the package on offer, but for a person who is looking for a performance oriented car with good comfort and basic works, the Dzire is completely a put off.

It is in fact a delight to own and drive. The engine is peppy. Maruti service is omni present and good. I guess you have had some really bad experience with them. We have 5 Maruti vehicles for the last 15 years and the service has been good across locations - Jaipur, Mumbai. I have got minor repairs done in Udaipur, Ajmer, Ahmedabad. Good at every place.

Dzire should be the car of choice.

[joy_swift]

A tough one -

Dzire +ve Lots of goodies,Really peppy diesel engine,Good FE,Cheap to maintain
-ve Slightly cramped compared to the Fiesta

Fiesta +ve Great engine for city use,amazing FE,looks a segment above Dzire
-ve Will be more expensive to maintain..

Overall,if I can afford a Fiesta,would def go for it...

[xPK]

Originally Posted by joy_swift

A tough one -

Dzire +ve Lots of goodies,Really peppy diesel engine,Good FE,Cheap to maintain
-ve Slightly cramped compared to the Fiesta

Fiesta +ve Great engine for city use,amazing FE,looks a segment above Dzire
-ve Will be more expensive to maintain..

Overall,if I can afford a Fiesta,would def go for it...

Fiesta? Great engine as compared to dzire?
I don't think so.

[vfmanuel]

Hi, I am also in the same dilemma, shortlisted DZire and Fiesta. I am getting nearly 1 L discount on Fiesta (08) model Bangalore, still have the fear of resale value / maintenance. Please let me know your views. Thanks Manuel

[izzy]

@dushmish, we own a swift Dzire and are out to sell it after doing around 35000kms in 5months. Our cars run mostly on the highways and we often have to travel at nights. Thus having a fast, fuel efficient and safe car is a must for us. The Dzire starts its trouble when your driving at 100+. Thats when you can feel the car wobble and gives you a feeling that the car would go completly out of control if you have to break at that speed. It can get highly fatal. This is a complaint that we ignored before buying the car. Also, the stability and drivabilty of the Swift is by far the best in its class, having said that, the Dzire is a complete opposite of what the Swift makes you believe.

As for the service experience, we own an Esteem and an Alto and have been using it since i dont remember how long (we service them at any random service station but Maruti). These cars are excellent VFM, but when it comes to buying cars today, we dont jus look at the physical quality but quality as a whole, which also includes the way the people at the service station talk to you and address your issues. Maruti service advisors have always been arrogant and ignorant, which is also due to the reason that they have enough number of customers which makes them care less about each one of them. And yes, the service back up is simply not comparable, but lets face it, your car may malfunction once in say 1lac kms, are you really willing to let someone make you feel less important only because there are plenty more like you out there, for that one time in 1lac kms?

And yes, our car already feels like a 4year old one only after doing around 35000kms in 5months. On the other hand we have completed 2.5lac kms on our endeavour and 2.17lacs on our honda city and these cars fell like they will last forever. The price is obviously a lot more, but the ride quality is far better than any of the Maruti cars out there, even the SX4 for that matter. No offense but we are completely dissatisfied with the Dzire. Although, if the car will not be used as much as I do, people may find it a VFM for that price. Having said that, be prepared not be as fussy about these things ive mentioned. Although we never tried changing over to better tires and stuck to the stock that came with the car, so may be a minor changes here and there and u'd have it performing alright.

[joy_swift]

Originally Posted by xPK

Fiesta? Great engine as compared to dzire?
I don't think so.

Missed the main part...Great Engine "for city use"