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Old 15th April 2009, 12:36   #31
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Just came back after a good test drive on White Cedia (Non-Sport)
As the sport is only available for display purposes.

I took a similar terrain where I took the Fiesta 1.6 S.
Here is my take on it.

- It is sluggish to start. Once you get the RPM of Cedia beyond 2.2K, it is comparable with the Fiesta 1.6 S

- The pedal feel on 1.6 S and the Cedia were very similar

- They both have amazing brakes, the EBD makes a big difference.


- The Fiesta felt a lot crisper on tigther and flowing turns (Near 90 corners)

- The Cedia felt a little loose (Body roll is prevelant)

- I could easily do the heel and toe on the Fiesta, I kind of struggled on the Cedia

- The corners where I did some LFB (Left foot braking) on the Fiesta ... I did nt feel that comfortable with the Cedia

- Both cars however, felt very sharp. I liked that feel.

- The gear shifts in both the cars were very good. Crisp and quick.

At my current skill level, I guess Fiesta is more fun than the Cedia. There is a chance that I might get bored of the car in 1.5 years.

With Cedia, there is skill scope for improvment.
The more I get used to the car, the better I can extract.
As I get bored, I can do performance upgrades and be happy..... and ... 1 day..1 day.. do the INRC in the Cedia itself.

Lastly, Cedia has been my dream.
Where I was smitten by the looks and the rave reviews... but I guess the test drive did not live up to the dream completely.. the dream was better than the reality

I guess I am now tending towards
51% Fiesta 1.6 S
49% Cedia Sports

I will make an offer of no more than 7.6 lacs to the CEdia owner. If he takes it.
Good for the two of us...

Else..

Fiesta 1.6 S
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Changing the springs and dampers on the Cedia will make a big difference and so would better footwear. The stock tyres are really pathetic. Grippier 205's give it a lot better steering feel. With those stock RE88 tyres, there's very little steering feel compared to the Fiesta.

However if you put PP2/Neova or similar tyres on a fiesta S, you'd end up with a very heavy steering wheel. If you wish, you could try out my car sometime before you decide with better rubber.

The fiesta does rev very very nicely but then look at the speedo - you'd not be doing a lot of speed even after revv'ing it past 6k.
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Old 15th April 2009, 14:26   #33
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I drove the Lancer GLX (No Cedia), but I loved it. I will pickup the car which give me driving pleasure.
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Old 15th April 2009, 21:00   #34
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Raazks, since you want the car for good 6 to 8 years, fiesta will be much more expesive to maintain than the cedia...

In addition, with all the respect to fiesta owners, I personally feel cedia's interiors are far better than fiesta's interiors...
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Old 15th April 2009, 21:54   #35
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If you wish, you could try out my car sometime before you decide with better rubber.
What an amazing offer!!!
Since we both work for Microsoft....but different campuses...
I decided to take the plunge.

We have spoken many times..but finally met today!!! I am glad I did.

ROC, first took his car out for a spin ... where I sat in the passenger seat.
Once the revs were in ..and we were making some speed. I noticed that the tyre noise is very less compared to the test drive car I drove.

Then the unthinkable, ROC offered me to take the wheel.
It might sound silly...but the seating position was really low or at the lowest and I was very comfortable...

I liked the feel of the car better. ( I did not miss the tachy wooden finish of the Spirit)

Had a good drive, which put a big smile on my face.

Things that changed from the test drive vehicle
- Seating postion ( This made a big difference )
- PP2 with 205 profile tyres

I like the experience on the whole.
Thanks ROC ... your help has made a big difference.

Let me also acknowledge Jerish. Who has been patient to explain all my questions pertaining to Fiesta 1.6 S.

On the whole, T-BHP rocks!!!
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Is 8 lacs worthwhile for a 2008 Cedia Sports?
Single owner
Very less milage, clean car....


Your opinions please!!!
Firstly, please keep in mind that the book value of even a hot selling car depreciates by 25% in the first year. So the book value of the car even if it was a well selling brand would be 7.5L considering a new car is for 10L odd.
Secondly, if you are going to buy the car on a loan, you should know that the interest you pay on a brand new car v/s a used car is much higher, which infact kills quite a chunk of your savings.
IMO anything over 6.5L would be a waste.


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Old 15th April 2009, 22:40   #37
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^^He's buying on corporate lease - the interest rate will be the same. A new car is 11.5 now because of price hikes and extra features.

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So Cedia it is? Change the tyres as soon as you get the car.
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^^He's buying on corporate lease - the interest rate will be the same. A new car is 11.5 now because of price hikes and extra features.

Sorry off topic. Does your company allow you to buy used cars on corporate lease?. My company allows only new cars. I am not sure what is stopping them from allowing us to buy used cars.

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My experience says 25%~30% off the on road price of new car is good/max. For two year old 35%~40%.

Also consider costs of maint and spares.
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I would say both the cars are really good.IMO fiesta is more fun to drive but its a small car than cedia.
Back seat comfort cedia is far better than fiesta.
Driving comfort Fiesta is really good.
Handling is better than cedia.
In high speeds you can feel the speed in Fiesta but no problem with the handling.
For autocross fiesta is better but for INRC i would say cedia is the best and expensive as well.

Like sudev said new car is always good.

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Sorry off topic. Does your company allow you to buy used cars on corporate lease?. My company allows only new cars. I am not sure what is stopping them from allowing us to buy used cars.
Better check the corporate lease part, Because I checked up the policy at my company and found the following disadvantages with Corp Lease and Used car.

- With new car your loan amt is on only Ex-showroom price and rest is paid by the company, (Reg / Tax / Insurance etc..)
Used car you lose out on all these benefits
- Rate of Int was higher for used car
- At the end of the tenure, Buy back policy was the same for new and used

So all this put together when you compare the monthly EMI for New vs Used via the Corp Lease plan. The difference was small and not worth it.

If you take your Cedia example of you paying 8L for the used cedia, Vs going for a new Cedia due to the ex-showroom factor. Via corp lease you still would be paying just a little more than 8L for a new car.

I suggest you get a quotation for a new Cedia, give both to your Finance/Car lease dept in your company and ask them to give you the computation for both options. (Because I think Interest rates and Service tax varies for both)
Compare the EMI and then decide.

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Sorry off topic. Does your company allow you to buy used cars on corporate lease?. My company allows only new cars. I am not sure what is stopping them from allowing us to buy used cars.
No they dont.
Its not worth it to attach a used car on company lease.

EMI + 12.5 % VAT on the EMI

Mine is a special case (working on this for more than 6 months ) for different reasons.

I am just going because I like the Cedia.... nothing else
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Good decision Raajks.
Cedia is an excellent car in all aspects and I am joying this for the last 18 months.
Drive safe and enjoy.
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Good decision. Above all, with humteen number of Fiestas all over the place (own, limos and cabs), you will make heads turn with the Cedia, wherever you go.
Congratulations.
A No-nonsense, low-maintenance car.
I own one for past 20 months and touchwood. Never a problem whatsoever. Just enjoyment of driving.
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