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Old 14th March 2012, 22:41   #121
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Thank you DeKay for kick starting this long dormant thread. Will try and keep it updated hence forth.

1. More now than ever, at this price people should sell their existing vehicles and switch to the Cedia. It puts to shame the puny 1.8L, 1.6L engines not only on performance but on the mileage front too.

2. No problems thus far (touch wood) neither with the car nor the A.S.S.

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No problem Khoj, You've got a beautiful car and I'm sure anyone would love to hear more about it.

Apart from that, I too have a similar question as above. Is the blue color still available?

Also, I was going through mandheer's thread and he's facing a lot of problems with his car such as rattling, brake issues, mileage etc.
Absolutely NO such issues in your car?
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At this point in time I have no idea on the colours currently available. The Blue Streak is/was the rarest of all as only a couple of batches were painted in this shade. The availability can be ascertained from the dealer or the Mitsubishi help line.

Unfortunately, Mandheer's vehicle is the only one with several issues. IIRC, except him none of the members have reported any major issues with their vehicles whether new or pre owned.


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No problem Khoj, You've got a beautiful car and I'm sure anyone would love to hear more about it.

Apart from that, I too have a similar question as above. Is the blue color still available?

Also, I was going through mandheer's thread and he's facing a lot of problems with his car such as rattling, brake issues, mileage etc.
Absolutely NO such issues in your car?
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So yesterday turned out to be 'Car Seva' day. Had booked the Blue Streak for service with Excel motors complete with a pick up, since I had an important meeting lined up. However within the first couple of hours of the work day all went for a toss as the driver from Excel did not turn up and then my client cancelled the meeting. This left me in a sour mood and to soothe myself I decided to take the Cedia out for a spin. Came back home had a spot of lunch and stepped in to the vehicle, suddenly the thought of getting the car serviced by Raju came to mind. Called him up and fixed the time for 02.30pm.

3.00 pm and I was in Karol Bagh with Raju to buy an additional 3l of Motul XCess 8100 5W-40 to supplement the 1 litre bottle that was already in the car. The Engine takes in 3.5L. The authorised dealer however only had a 5L can. While he did agree to take my 1L and adjust the same in the bill, it would have left me with a 1.5L of residual volume and I certainly did not want that. So bought 3x 1Litres of Castrol Edge (made in Australia & no repackaged in India business) 5W-40 and an OE oil filter for the Santro (made by Mobis & common in size with the Cedia, Lancer) and service was started at 04.30pm

First up was the K&N filter. Off it came and was throughly washed with it's own cleaner, the loosened dust was brushed away and it was kept aside for air drying. Next was the brake fluid. The master cylinder was drained and refilled with fresh brake fluid 'Tutela DOT4 made by Petronas". This was left over from my TJet+ service a couple of weeks ago. Then one by one all four slaves were bled starting from the farthest wheel and worked back to the closest wheel. The used brake fluid was blacker than black and I was glad that this exercise was done in front of me. Next up, the spark plugs. The OE plugs came out clean as a whistle. Raju did not want to change them but since I had already poured money in to "Made in Japan" NGK Iridiums, he really had no choice. So in went the Iridiums and the OEs were packed up and saved for another day. By now the K&N was dry so it was oiled up and it regained its typical red avatar. Clamped back and it was sorted.

By now the engine had cooled down, so the drain plug of the sump was opened and the old filter removed. I oiled up the face of the new filter and against Raju's advice filled up the new filter to the brim with fresh oil. The same was then screwed in to its slot and the engine sump was left to drain itself out. Raju went about attending to other cars and I invested that time to get the car jacked up at each wheel one by one and had all the embedded stones and debris removed much to the amusement of Raju's help. He wondered what was the use of it, so asked him to place a couple of pebbles between the base of his sandal and his foot and walk around. The guy caught on real fast and then went about removing the debris even more diligently. Tea was served and done with. Raju returned and plugged the sump. In went a bottle of Edge followed by another of Motul and yet another 1.5 of Edge.

The remaining 0.5 litres of Edge will be used in about 6 months from now when I get only the oil filter changed. It will be used to refill the new filter and to make up for the spilled oil. Here my logic is that while the synthetic oil has a usable life of 10K/15K kms/1 year. The oil filters do not or at least my belief is that they are being made with a usable life span (effective filtration) of 5000 kilometres only. So change the oil filter every 5K kilometres and be done with it. The filter costs less than 200 bucks the labour maybe another 100, oil is always left over so for less than 500 bucks the exercise is worth it.

Dip stick level checked for cold reading and all was found hunky dory. All jacks removed everything packed up and away we went for a test drive. Brakes A1, engine butter smooth, came back dropped Raju off and zoomed away to the BP bunk in Moti Bagh to get the Cedia a tank full of Speed 97 as also to redeem a Rs.500 BP petrol bonus voucher that was obtained when I bought Conti Comfort Contact 5 tires for my Swift a few weeks ago. The vehicle took in 39.6 Litres against an indicated running of 411kms. The fuel last time around was normal petrol from the HP COCO bunk next to the the ITDC Ashok in Chanakyapuri. Pulled the car to a side and rechecked the oil level for a 'HOT" reading. All systems GO.

That completed part 1 of the service. Part II will be on next Saturday when I will change the coolant and the steering fluid. These would have been changed at Excel but obviously that did not happen and I just could not find Petronas made fluids in the open market. Will buy 'ParaFlu' coolant 6L as I do not want to use water anymore in the cooling system (do not ask why not, it's just something I want to do) and 'Tutella' automatic gear box fluid which doubles up as steering fluid. All of the liquids mentioned are OE for Fiat, made by Petronas of Malaysia and are top notch in quality. These will be bought over the counter from one of the many FiAT dealers here in Dilli to be poured by Raju.

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3.00 pm and I was in Karol Bagh with Raju to buy an additional 3l of Motul XCess 8100 5W-40 to supplement the 1 litre bottle that was already in the car. The Engine takes in 3.5L.

First up was the K&N filter. Off it came and was throughly washed with it's own cleaner, the loosened dust was brushed away and it was kept aside for air drying. Next was the brake fluid. The master cylinder was drained and refilled with fresh brake fluid 'Tutela DOT4 made by Petronas". This was left over from my TJet+ service a couple of weeks ago. Then one by one all four slaves were bled starting from the farthest wheel and worked back to the closest wheel. The used brake fluid was blacker than black and I was glad that this exercise was done in front of me. Next up, the spark plugs. The OE plugs came out clean as a whistle. Raju did not want to change them but since I had already poured money in to "Made in Japan" NGK Iridiums, he really had no choice. So in went the Iridiums and the OEs were packed up and saved for another day. By now the K&N was dry so it was oiled up and it regained its typical red avatar. Clamped back and it was sorted.

By now the engine had cooled down, so the drain plug of the sump was opened and the old filter removed. I oiled up the face of the new filter and against Raju's advice filled up the new filter to the brim with fresh oil. The same was then screwed in to its slot and the engine sump was left to drain itself out. Raju went about attending to other cars and I invested that time to get the car jacked up at each wheel one by one and had all the embedded stones and debris removed much to the amusement of Raju's help. He wondered what was the use of it, so asked him to place a couple of pebbles between the base of his sandal and his foot and walk around. The guy caught on real fast and then went about removing the debris even more diligently. Tea was served and done with. Raju returned and plugged the sump. In went a bottle of Edge followed by another of Motul and yet another 1.5 of Edge.

The remaining 0.5 litres of Edge will be used in about 6 months from now when I get only the oil filter changed. It will be used to refill the new filter and to make up for the spilled oil. Here my logic is that while the synthetic oil has a usable life of 10K/15K kms/1 year. The oil filters do not or at least my belief is that they are being made with a usable life span (effective filtration) of 5000 kilometres only. So change the oil filter every 5K kilometres and be done with it. The filter costs less than 200 bucks the labour maybe another 100, oil is always left over so for less than 500 bucks the exercise is worth it.

Dip stick level checked for cold reading and all was found hunky dory. All jacks removed everything packed up and away we went for a test drive. Brakes A1, engine butter smooth, came back dropped Raju off and zoomed away to the BP bunk in Moti Bagh to get the Cedia a tank full of Speed 97 as also to redeem a Rs.500 BP petrol bonus voucher that was obtained when I bought Conti Comfort Contact 5 tires for my Swift a few weeks ago. The vehicle took in 39.6 Litres against an indicated running of 411kms. The fuel last time around was normal petrol from the HP COCO bunk next to the the ITDC Ashok in Chanakyapuri. Pulled the car to a side and rechecked the oil level for a 'HOT" reading. All systems GO.

That completed part 1 of the service. Part II will be on next Saturday when I will change the coolant and the steering fluid. These would have been changed at Excel but obviously that did not happen and I just could not find Petronas made fluids in the open market. Will buy 'ParaFlu' coolant 6L as I do not want to use water anymore in the cooling system (do not ask why not, it's just something I want to do) and 'Tutella' automatic gear box fluid which doubles up as steering fluid. All of the liquids mentioned are OE for Fiat, made by Petronas of Malaysia and are top notch in quality. These will be bought over the counter from one of the many FiAT dealers here in Dilli to be poured by Raju.
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Couple of things, Doesn't the engine need 3.8L of oil with an oil filter change?
Good Choice with the Mobis filter.
I have tried various oil filters available in the market.
Found the OE/Mitsubishi service are also using purolator Oil filter but its a different Part no compared to the purolator Santro filter.

I also have a Sakura oil filter somewhere, but cant find it right now.

These are the 3 I have right now.
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Notice the Hyundai filter is slightly bigger than the other 2?
Blue Streak Cedia Sports-1.png

The holes in the mesh are also much larger in the Hyundai filter and the fins are tightly packed compare to the others.
Blue Streak Cedia Sports-3.png

My observations -
Delphi - the worst, Very tiny holes, some of the holes are blocked and the fins aren't packed very well. ( I used to use this filter in the beginning before I saw this)
Sakura - Similar to the Delphi - But a little better.

The mobis filter is pretty close to the OE. So I would continue using this if I cant find the OE.

I agree with your thoughts on not using regular water for the radiator and yes the ParaFlu is pretty good stuff.
For the power steering fluid use Tutela DEXRON-III.

Did you notice any improvement after the brake fluid change?

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Hi Captain Slow, you are right the total volume required is 3.8L including the filter volume.

Yes the Mobis seems to be good. The moment I picked it up I realised that it's heavier than the OE filters that I have handled in the past, rechecked the same by hand weighing the removed filter. Not an accurate measurement by any standards but then one knows. Did not pay much attention to the size of the holes and the densely pleated elements however your observations are consistent with the increased weight, the build quality too was better than the generic Purolator etc. BTW, that's quite a collection you have there.

I am now looking to obtain this filter to eliminate the filter only change

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Thanks to your mentioning the Dexron (which I have already picked up) I remembered that I forgot about the gearbox oil for the Cedia. Will pick that up too, though I wonder how Raju will manage to change that as he does not have either a lift or a fixed ramp. Let us see what develops.



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Khoj,
Couple of things, Doesn't the engine need 3.8L of oil with an oil filter change?
Good Choice with the Mobis filter.
I have tried various oil filters available in the market.
Found the OE/Mitsubishi service are also using purolator Oil filter but its a different Part no compared to the purolator Santro filter.

I also have a Sakura oil filter somewhere, but cant find it right now.

These are the 3 I have right now.
Attachment 1309908

Notice the Hyundai filter is slightly bigger than the other 2?
Attachment 1309909

The holes in the mesh are also much larger in the Hyundai filter and the fins are tightly packed compare to the others.
Attachment 1309910

My observations -
Delphi - the worst, Very tiny holes, some of the holes are blocked and the fins aren't packed very well. ( I used to use this filter in the beginning before I saw this)
Sakura - Similar to the Delphi - But a little better.

The mobis filter is pretty close to the OE. So I would continue using this if I cant find the OE.

I agree with your thoughts on not using regular water for the radiator and yes the ParaFlu is pretty good stuff.
For the power steering fluid use Tutela DEXRON-III.

Did you notice any improvement after the brake fluid change?

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Hello again, Captain Slow I forgot to comment on the brakes et all. While I cannot make out any difference in braking either in grip or in pedal feel (both were spot on before the change too), surprisingly the clutch pedal behaviour has become better. The clutch had become bit too hard for my liking. Having driven a few kilometres after the fluid change I noticed that the pedal is not exerting that much of a back pressure as before and is less tiring to operate in crawling traffic. I thing it is engaging better too as the shifts too have become perceptibly slicker (placebo effect?). I say surprising as we did not bleed the clutch circuit. Of course the master cylinder is common for the brakes and the clutch but still. Maybe the old oil in the clutch circuit has mixed in with the larger volume of new oil and I am seeing the benefits of the larger proportion being clean oil. Observed the same difference (of the clutch becoming lighter) in my TJet+ & Swiftzxi wherein the brake fluid was changed last month & last week respectively.


Raju did not want to bleed the clutch circuit as per him at times if things are not done right or go wrong it could result in a failed clutch. Not satisfied with his explanation but did not ask him to elaborate either.

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Hi Captain Slow, you are right the total volume required is 3.8L including the filter volume.

Yes the Mobis seems to be good. The moment I picked it up I realised that it's heavier than the OE filters that I have handled in the past, rechecked the same by hand weighing the removed filter. Not an accurate measurement by any standards but then one knows. Did not pay much attention to the size of the holes and the densely pleated elements however your observations are consistent with the increased weight, the build quality too was better than the generic Purolator etc. BTW, that's quite a collection you have there.

I am now looking to obtain this filter to eliminate the filter only change

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Thanks to your mentioning the Dexron (which I have already picked up) I remembered that I forgot about the gearbox oil for the Cedia. Will pick that up too, though I wonder how Raju will manage to change that as he does not have either a lift or a fixed ramp. Let us see what develops.
Thanks, went a bit crazy seeing that we use fully Synthetic oils but the filters we buy are pure junk!
We spend close to Rs-/ 4000 on oil but skimp on oil filters cheap sub Rs -/100
filters . Penny wise pound foolish ??
That's a pretty good oil filter, Amazon is charging about 5,500 for 4 filters (shipped to India). How are you planing to bring them? Cant we get them locally from the local K&N Distributors?

I got 2 cans of Dexron III, (I needed only 1 but wanted to remove out all the old crap oil) And some brake fluid. Need to change these.

Gear box oil is pretty simple, jack up the car a bit and you have a drain nut on the gear box. Remove this - all the old oil comes off, Put the plug back and a little above that there is another bold- Open this one up and use a gear box gun to fill it up.

Used Mobil 1 gear box oil but not very happy with the results. Gears have become a bit sticky and notchy, would advice you against changing to this oil.
Know of anything else which might be good?

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Changed the gearbox oil before knowing that the oil in the cedia is a long life (10 years). So I don't think you should change it just yet,


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Hello again, Captain Slow I forgot to comment on the brakes et all. While I cannot make out any difference in braking either in grip or in pedal feel (both were spot on before the change too), surprisingly the clutch pedal behaviour has become better. The clutch had become bit too hard for my liking. Having driven a few kilometres after the fluid change I noticed that the pedal is not exerting that much of a back pressure as before and is less tiring to operate in crawling traffic. I thing it is engaging better too as the shifts too have become perceptibly slicker (placebo effect?). I say surprising as we did not bleed the clutch circuit. Of course the master cylinder is common for the brakes and the clutch but still. Maybe the old oil in the clutch circuit has mixed in with the larger volume of new oil and I am seeing the benefits of the larger proportion being clean oil. Observed the same difference (of the clutch becoming lighter) in my TJet+ & Swiftzxi wherein the brake fluid was changed last month & last week respectively.


Raju did not want to bleed the clutch circuit as per him at times if things are not done right or go wrong it could result in a failed clutch. Not satisfied with his explanation but did not ask him to elaborate either.
Hah good you guys didn't bleed the clutch! If any air bubbles get into the clutch its going be a tough job getting them out.
What you could do is just empty the Reservoir oil and pour in some fresh oil. Do this once in 3-4 days - Repeat 2-3 times and I guess all the dirty old oil from the clutch would also be washed away. (That's what I am going to do )
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Rs. 5500/- delivered for four is not bad at all. I was anyways thinking of getting one along with few of the in cabin airfilters and a s/w for my mac. I am not to keen on following up with the local K&N guys as I simply do not have the patience to find out where they are & then deal with them and pay them thru the nose.

BTW I found few more long life filters compatible with the 2006 Lancer OZ rally 2.0 L gasoline engine. Think will get the Bosch @$7.00 to check out the fitment and if hunky dory will get one each of the Mobil & K&N. That should see me through to 2016.

http://www.amazon.com/Mobil-M1-110-E...SAM71RNYJGRKE5


http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-3323-Pre...4KJE7VEYKYHPAF



Thanks for the heads up on the life of the gear oil. I was going to go with Tutella.

The reservoir is common to both the brake & the clutch circuits. The oil was suctioned out from the same and new one filled in prior to bleeding. There on new oil was added as the brakes were progressively bled.

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Thanks, went a bit crazy seeing that we use fully Synthetic oils but the filters we buy are pure junk!
We spend close to Rs-/ 4000 on oil but skimp on oil filters cheap sub Rs -/100
filters . Penny wise pound foolish ??
That's a pretty good oil filter, Amazon is charging about 5,500 for 4 filters (shipped to India). How are you planing to bring them? Cant we get them locally from the local K&N Distributors?


Changed the gearbox oil before knowing that the oil in the cedia is a long life (10 years). So I don't think you should change it just yet,




Hah good you guys didn't bleed the clutch! If any air bubbles get into the clutch its going be a tough job getting them out.
What you could do is just empty the Reservoir oil and pour in some fresh oil. Do this once in 3-4 days - Repeat 2-3 times and I guess all the dirty old oil from the clutch would also be washed away. (That's what I am going to do )
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Yesterday went back to Raju's for changing out the coolant and Steering fluid. While the jobs were being carried out another Cedia drove in and Raju commented that this car came with Gaurav Chopra's reference. Gave it a cursory look and went about my business.

A bit later saw the driver of the black Cedia chatting with another young chap and both were looking intently in my direction and I was like uh oh I hope it is not another prospective buyer for my car offering me spot cash so on and so forth.

I was however pleasantly surprised when the new guy walked up and introduced himself as who else but Gaurav Chopra. Though we had spoken over the phone a few times, we had never met and now finally I had a face to go along with the voice.

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Gaurav is the young chap behind me and the black Cedia in the background belongs to his cousin.


Initial pleasantries over Gaurav being Gaurav had new information to share and I am passing the same on to you.

There is currently a recall underway for the Cedia's headlight switch. There is a chip in the circuit which is being charged and all of you should contact your local service centres to get the same done. The recall is for all Cedias irrespective of the year of manufacture.

This visit to Raju also completed Cedia's service. The car drank 4 litres of Paraflu coolant and around 1 litre of Steering fluid. Raju was expecting the car to take in about 5-6 litres of coolant and was surprised when the system refused to take in anymore after 4 litres were poured in. What has your experience been in coolant replacement in terms of quantities consumed.
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