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Old 19th December 2012, 16:25   #31
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We missed the deal by rs 10000. Our last offer was Rs1.45 lacs but someone eventually bought it for Rs 1.55 lacs.

We have also dropped the idea of buying the other Logan 1.4 as it seemed so dull as compared to the 1.6. But the hunt for another 1.6 continues.
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Old 20th December 2012, 00:12   #32
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I have a logan 1.6 gls. It's a 2007 model. And runs like a dream on cng. Ride quality is unbelievable . Very cushy and so is handling quite competent. Ergonomicely it's quite good if you can live with power windows on central console, boot release button below handbrake , and the horrendous bonnet release on the front passenger side below the dash.
The service parts are quite inexpensive if sourced outside . But Lubes are very cheap at mahindra s.s.
steering is very well weighted (a bit too much weight... For some folks ), but its precise and the default position is excellent. Seats are wide and supportive. The Clutch is a chronic problem. It's a little harder than normal.
It was a cable clutch then. And though, I have changed the kit once and the cable twice it's still not good..
Build quality is excellent and my 5 yr old car still looks like new. It's never been polished btw. It still rides like a dream and every time I have had trial of a new vehicle, I start appreciating the ride quality of my 5 yr old car more. It is the single most brilliant aspect of the logan engineering. The k7m engine is smooth and works very well with cng. Even after 2 years on cng, the engine feels like new. I know folks having run in excess of 4.5 lac km on stock Renault engine on cng and the engine still feels like it has juice for more. Most of menu cabs have clocke a few lac of Kms and the engine still doesn't trouble them.
The engine and the mechanicals are largely trouble free. But you may have to inspect the axle boots quite frequently. A torn boot shall result in transaxle oil drain and gear seizure. Verrrry expensive to fix , I heard.
Cost of certain logan spares -
1. Oil filter- 165 Sakura / purolator
Luna's /vetch - 135
2. Engine oil-3.3 lit - about 800 with 10000 km as service interval
3. Brake pads front- FBk- 450 -these are excellent
Ibex- Bosch - 700
4. Tie rod ends- 950 pair( auto speed )
5. Steering ball joints- rane- 800 pair
6. Bushing kit- 800 a set of 8
Lower arm ball joint - 900 a pair
7. Dead axle bush- 850 pair
8. Accessory belt- 550
9. Timing belt w tensioner- 2500
10. Clutch kit w bearing - lukset Germany-4000
11. Rear strut - Gabriel @ 1650 each
11. Rear strut mounting pads oversize for cng weight - 400 pair
12. Clutch cable Renault- 1100
13. Plug ht leads - 950 set
Oe. - 3800 set
14. Ht coil- 4500 Renault
15. New type ovrm mirrors w covers untainted - oe- 1600 each
16. Front struts - about 1400 each
17. Axle boot right- 300
18 axle boot left - 450
19. Air filter element Renault- 395
20. Spark plugs - denso 20 fpk- 300 for 4
Champion - 240 for set
NHL - 280 for set
21. Wipers - 300 a pair
22. Gear knob - 1500
23. Hazard light switch- 650

Some parts like the water pump pulley are reported to be costing 5600 in a.s.s. , even a steering oil valve costs 5800 at workshops. It is probably unavailable outside.
Bills are exorbitant at mahindra workshops. I ve met quite a few guys running bills about half a lac. Authorized service stations are pathetic to put it mildly.
The car is lovely. But you may have to take trouble to find a good source for spares and a trusted mechanic. If you like to service your car at only the authorized stations it may turn out shockingly expensive. And worse still most authorized dealers do not even stock spares. And don't be surprised if you have to buy the spares in black from outside.

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Timing belt (dayco ) - 600
Serpentine belt- fenner (jk )- 545
Lower arm ball joints - auto mech - 900 pair
Shall update prices with manufacturer as I get it. Kindly add and update list .
If on this forum there is a spares parts details for cars which have parts unavailability or short supply, it may help other users.
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Spares are more and more easily available and reasonable too. Today I bought..

Front strut mounting bearings- Renault - 480per
Dead axle bush- Srp- 600 for pair

This means long term ownership of an essentially good machine is now possible . And looking for a well maintained logan over say desire / manza /ikon / fiesta classic/ verna at a price discount of over a lac of rupees is a very practical decision.
The vehicle is indeed built to last. Looks are very dated but sober and not outlandish.
Resale is poor but then most cars have poor resale today other than a few marutisuzukis and a Toyota. Logan holds together very well for lacs of km.
It is quite like innova if u just excuse the blandness of the form.
At the end of the day the cars which are successful as taxi cabs are more often than not, most reliable cars in the market, like it or not.
Logan offers excellent ride, frugal and robust engines, the driveability is top class, handing is composed over a wide variety of roads and speed.
The boot space is cavernous, the seats are supportive and wide. It's got superb rear seat ride so makes excellent chauffeur driven car.
I believe 2/3 yr old k9k engined Logan's are available for almost 2 lac less than same age desire diesels.
At that kind of discount, and a tighter car, logan makes a solid no nonsense buy.
3 years down the line, with couple of lacs saved upfront and a better comfortable usage later, I would not be much worried about the difference in resale then. I am sure it would not be more than 30000/40000 in 2015. And for all you know, the logan then would be still in good condition over some others which are not built as well.

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Old 3rd January 2013, 23:04   #35
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One of my friends is looking at a Logan 1.4 GLE petrol, company owned, 80k kms crossed, 2007 registered car. Took the test drive today and found the gears don't slot easily. While upshifting takes a good amount of force, downshifting is only possible by double-clutch (i.e. depress the clutch to shift to neutral, release the clutch, and then depress again to shift down). The car lacks pickup, meaning after slotting into the first, releasing the clutch and pressing the accelerator pedal, the car takes a decent amount of time to build up speed. The clutch doesn't seem to slip. Also power delivery is smooth, so there are no abnormal vibrations or jerks during acceleration.

My question is what could be the reason behind this strange behaviour? Two of my earlier cars, M800 and Santro, both crossed 80k mark under my ownership, but till the end of their days they retained the pickup quite well, and the gear shifts were butter smooth even in the 9-year old Santro. Even the 11 year old Ikon we bought used last year has a much better gear shifting quality than this Logan. Is there something wrong with the gearbox, or the clutch?

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Old 4th January 2013, 18:03   #36
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@honeybee! as compared to the other 2 cars you mentioned the logan is hardly nippy to begin with. I have a 1.6 k7m motor which is still better than the 1.4 , is no scorcher itself. so slow acceleration could be relative perception...
But Its possible that your friend needs to replace clutch kit .
but difficulty in shifting gears could be improved with shifting to atf instead of the co. specified gear oil, and also by clutch setting. the early logans had cable clutch and its possible that rubber bush near the fork has split. this leads to clutch problems, one can easily DIu with 2 nos. 10mm fixed spanners.
I have had to get the clutch setting done a couple of times to improve shifting.
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Cost of certain logan spares -
1. Oil filter- 165 Sakura / purolator
Luna's /vetch - 135
2. Engine oil-3.3 lit - about 800 with 10000 km as service interval
3. Brake pads front- FBk- 450 -these are excellent
Ibex- Bosch - 700
4. Tie rod ends- 950 pair( auto speed )
5. Steering ball joints- rane- 800 pair
6. Bushing kit- 800 a set of 8
Lower arm ball joint - 900 a pair
7. Dead axle bush- 850 pair
8. Accessory belt- 550
9. Timing belt w tensioner- 2500
10. Clutch kit w bearing - lukset Germany-4000
11. Rear strut - Gabriel @ 1650 each
11. Rear strut mounting pads oversize for cng weight - 400 pair
12. Clutch cable Renault- 1100
13. Plug ht leads - 950 set
Oe. - 3800 set
14. Ht coil- 4500 Renault
15. New type ovrm mirrors w covers untainted - oe- 1600 each
16. Front struts - about 1400 each
17. Axle boot right- 300
18 axle boot left - 450
19. Air filter element Renault- 395
20. Spark plugs - denso 20 fpk- 300 for 4
Champion - 240 for set
NHL - 280 for set
21. Wipers - 300 a pair
22. Gear knob - 1500
23. Hazard light switch- 650
24. front strut bearings ( renault ) - 960 a pair
25. front strut mounting pads - 500 a pair ( local )
26. used a gear knob for old zen - rs. 140/- to substitute for the
exhorbitant gear assembly. just a small tube of silicon, a wire tie is
enough to a simple DIU and save some dough. works beautifully...
27. changed the front 2 tyres today with alignment , wheel balancing and
nitrogen- Ceat Milaze -185/70 r 14. rs. 7800/- for 2
28.caliper sliding pin kit ( tvs girling ) part no.29932241 -Rs.236/ each
total 472/- ( Mah.s.s. part cost for the same thing is about 750/- and
labour for caliper pin change is 450/-
29. oil switch ( power steering ) renault- rs. 4600/-:(
30. timing belt ( dayco isoran ) - rs.600/-
31 accessory belt ( serpentine 1747 fpk) jk ( fenner ) -545/-

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Plug wires- gem harness- rs. 735/- opera house, nitin motors

Ht coil imported - rs. 1650/-

Idle speed motors - Lowe, Germany rs.2350/- including shipping from Germany by eBay international

Plug wires by plugcord - arihant motors, opera house, rs.1450/-

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Cost of certain logan spares -
1. Oil filter- 165 Sakura / purolator
Luna's /vetch - 135
2. Engine oil-3.3 lit - about 800 with 10000 km as service interval
3. Brake pads front- FBk- 450 -these are excellent
Ibex- Bosch - 700
4. Tie rod ends- 950 pair( auto speed )
5. Steering ball joints- rane- 800 pair
6. Bushing kit- 800 a set of 8
Lower arm ball joint - 900 a pair
7. Dead axle bush- 850 pair
8. Accessory belt- 550
9. Timing belt w tensioner- 2500
10. Clutch kit w bearing - lukset Germany-4000
11. Rear strut - Gabriel @ 1650 each
11. Rear strut mounting pads oversize for cng weight - 400 pair
12. Clutch cable Renault- 1100
13. Plug ht leads - 950 set
Oe. - 3800 set
14. Ht coil- 4500 Renault
15. New type ovrm mirrors w covers untainted - oe- 1600 each
16. Front struts - about 1400 each
17. Axle boot right- 300
18 axle boot left - 450
19. Air filter element Renault- 395
20. Spark plugs - denso 20 fpk- 300 for 4
Champion - 240 for set
NHL - 280 for set
21. Wipers - 300 a pair
22. Gear knob - 1500
23. Hazard light switch- 650
24. front strut bearings ( renault ) - 960 a pair
25. front strut mounting pads - 500 a pair ( local )
26. used a gear knob for old zen - rs. 140/- to substitute for the
exhorbitant gear assembly. just a small tube of silicon, a wire tie is
enough to a simple DIU and save some dough. works beautifully...
27. changed the front 2 tyres today with alignment , wheel balancing and
nitrogen- Ceat Milaze -185/70 r 14. rs. 7800/- for 2
28.caliper sliding pin kit ( tvs girling ) part no.29932241 -Rs.236/ each
total 472/- ( Mah.s.s. part cost for the same thing is about 750/- and
labour for caliper pin change is 450/-
29. oil switch ( power steering ) renault- rs. 4600/-:(
30. timing belt ( dayco isoran ) - rs.600/-
31 accessory belt ( serpentine 1747 fpk) jk ( fenner ) -545/-
Hi, These prices are amazing, I just moved to Bangalore and brought the Logan here, I am still going to Mahindra and paying crazy prices for all parts.

Drive shaft boot replacement - 2100
Spark plug - 250 each (paid like 100 each in at Mahindra in Delhi)
Brake pads - 2000

From what I remember, Mahindra doesnt sell Logan spares over the counter so how do you manage to get Renault parts alone without paying them labour charges?
Also is there any particular place in Delhi where you buy non OEM spares for Logan? I will pick up somethings I need for my Logan next month when I am in Delhi.
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well most parts listed are after market replacements. hence the difference.
mahindra is looting logan owners. try and find spare parts vendors for sourcing it and get it changed outside.
Sometimes it may not work.. for example i changed the dead axle ( hub carrier bush) in my logan but the sound wouldnt go. in the end i bought from A.S.S. and it worked. this time it worked. i ended up wasting 2000 in the bargain on the part , turner / labour charges.
On the other hand, i imported an IAC valve from germany, cost rs,2300/- including postage on ebay.
Since renault doesnt change only the iac but the entire throttle body, this would've cost me about 7500/- plus taxes.
now a small actuator switch on the power steering line is leaking. its a problem i have to attend to at some stage. the part costs rs,5600/- plus taxes and labour.
repalcement not available in local market.
available in europe for 10.32 euros. that is about 750 odd rupees.
this hurts...
for a entry level sedan (at least perception wise; a cab image workhorse at the best) the spares and maintenance cost is way too high.
Localization would've helped. i dont know which partner of the jv is to blame for this, but knowing mahindra's track record in partnerships, i can give benefit of doubt to renault.
I simply love the car. its great for my back. its very well sorted out dynamically AND ITS BUILT TO LAST.
Try and sourcing parts. i found out in parts list in tvs girling , the cost of caliper kit and bought it from a tvs dealer in mumbai.
Mahindra was selling the same damn thing at 2.5 times the cost and labour was twice the cost , i got it done.
my point is you may save on parts but not on time.
it wouldnt give you the peace of mind which a dezire/manza/etios give you as far as the authorized service and repairs are concerned.
SAD really for a terrific car.
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Front struts from gabriel - Mrp-1590 each.
Mount pads ( germany ) - Rs.725/ each
My front right strut is leaking and on way out. Damn car still rides beautifully
with a busted strut. Getting it replaced tomorrow.
Have also received the power steering oil pressure switch ( actuator) from china. shall get that fixed as well if weather holds.
Ordered 2 parts on alibaba. If anyone needs the part let me know as i have a spare. Postage was same so ordered a pair just in case.
Looks good.
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