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Old 15th August 2010, 19:18   #1
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We've decided to let the Baleno Altura go. At 1,15,000 it's getting expensive to maintain and the parts are difficult to find. I am now looking for a diesel/cng 2nd hand car. The car will be used in the city as well as for outstation trips. I expect the running to be about 2000km/month. It'll be chauffeur driven pretty often though.
Budget - Around 7 lakhs.

Essential requirements
1- Diesel/ CNG
2- ABS, Airbags
3- Decent maintenance costs
4- Reliable.
5- Fun to drive.
These are the cars i'm considering currently

1- Honda civic.
2- Toyota Corolla.

I've been told that these two cars perform admirably on CNG.

These are the cars i'd like to consider and will if my doubts are wrong.

1- Hyundai Verna CRDI- have heard the handling is horrible. Version with airbags available ?

2- Mitsubishi Cedia- I'd certainly buy this but good pieces are rare to find and am not sure if it's compatible with CNG. Also, are spare parts available readily ?
Please tell me about this.
This is a car i'd love to own and it'll be cheaper than the civic or the corolla.

3- Ford Fiesta 1.6
Again, a great car to drive and would be a cheaper option yet am told it's not compatible with CNG.

4- ANHC.
Compatible with CNG?
Any other cars that ought to be added to the list. I don't quite like the SX4 so i'm not considering it.
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Hello

I would like to recemmond Hyundai Elantra which might fit your bill perfectly if you are OK with the discontinued cars. I dont own this car but i heard a lot about this car in terms of maintenance and performance.
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Why not a New Indigo Manza?
it is a great car for the price,and to add to it,its going to be chauffer driven,it will be a good buy in your budget.

Buying a used Civic\Cedia and then adding a CNG kit??
why not look at diesel's instead?
you would also be losing on FTD factor on CNG.

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1) IMO, if you are spending Rs. 7 lakh, why not go for a new car. IMHO, if one is spending more than Rs. 5 lakh, its worth going in for a new car as many options open up.

2) You can consider Manza or even the new range of CNG cars by Maurti.

3) But if you are looking forward to performance and larger cars, you can consider Xylo mid range version.

4) The precise answer for your question is to buy in Corolla. I have noticed many earlier generation corolla running on CNG. Civic has an advantage because its still in production and the used Civic prices are low. Moreover you will not miss Baleno as dynamics of Civic are quite good.
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if you are looking for much better car than baleno.its really little difficult.IMO civic or cedia!
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if you are looking for much better car than baleno.its really little difficult.IMO civic or cedia!
Agreed which is why I will most probably end up with one of these.

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1) IMO, if you are spending Rs. 7 lakh, why not go for a new car. IMHO, if one is spending more than Rs. 5 lakh, its worth going in for a new car as many options open up.

2) You can consider Manza or even the new range of CNG cars by Maurti.

3) But if you are looking forward to performance and larger cars, you can consider Xylo mid range version.

4) The precise answer for your question is to buy in Corolla. I have noticed many earlier generation corolla running on CNG. Civic has an advantage because its still in production and the used Civic prices are low. Moreover you will not miss Baleno as dynamics of Civic are quite good.
I just can't find a sedan(not considering suv, hatchback) that I like within the range. I'm not considering the Manza because I hate the way it looks and because of the A.S.S. I own a punto and don't find servicing a satisfactory experience.
Yes, I can consider a Maruti CNG vehicle but the Sx4 cng would probably be way out of budget.


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Why not a New Indigo Manza?
it is a great car for the price,and to add to it,its going to be chauffer driven,it will be a good buy in your budget.

Buying a used Civic\Cedia and then adding a CNG kit??
why not look at diesel's instead?
you would also be losing on FTD factor on CNG.
I am considering diesels, hyundai Verna.
Is the cedia cng compatible ?
I don't quite agree, the Baleno was fun to drive on CNG.

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I would like to recemmond Hyundai Elantra which might fit your bill perfectly if you are OK with the discontinued cars. I dont own this car but i heard a lot about this car in terms of maintenance and performance.
Hi. Not considering discontinued cars, my family won't allow it. We want absolute peace of mind and reliability.
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Hi Team.

Budget - Around 7 lakhs.

Essential requirements
1- Diesel/ CNG
2- ABS, Airbags
3- Decent maintenance costs
4- Reliable.
5- Fun to drive.
Looking at the above your new car can be found here
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...ve-review.html


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2- Mitsubishi Cedia- I'd certainly buy this but good pieces are rare to find and am not sure if it's compatible with CNG. Also, are spare parts available readily ?
Please tell me about this.
This is a car i'd love to own and it'll be cheaper than the civic or the corolla.
The Cedia was available with an LPG kit from the factory, they might build one for you, just check with your local dealer. Spares are no issue at all.
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Budget - Around 7 lakhs.
Essential requirements
1- Diesel/ CNG
2- ABS, Airbags
3- Decent maintenance costs
4- Reliable.
5- Fun to drive.
Looking at your budget and requirements the Fiesta Diesel Pre worshipped looks like a perfect choice. Fits to a tee to your requirments. Have you tried test driving one, you will love it.
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Since you are used to the convenience of a station wagon, I suggest you to look at Octavia Combi. It may be challenging to find one.
IIRC Cedia was sold with CNG for some time.

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@khoj-the vento is way out of budget.
I will check with my HM dealer.
Thanku for reassuring me.

@ghodlur- really?
I'd always considered it under powered. I will take a test drive asap.

@guna- not looking at skodas. they're very expensive to maintain.
I think the cedia was sold with Lpg,not cng.

if someone can confirm the cedia's compatibility with cng then I'll definitely go in for one.
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sukrit7,

If I were you, here is what I'd be looking at.

Used
1) Nearly new Optra Magnum
2) Laura

New
1) VW Vento diesel
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@sukrit: Yes Cedia is CNG compatible. Look around there are a few very good pieces available in Delhi. I agree with the posts here, look no further than a Civic/Cedia. I would ahve said a Linea as well but since you are not happy with the Punto experience so will not.
Elantra is also a viable option if you can find a decent example.

OT: Have you sold the Altura already? Did it have the fog lamps? If you Have not can I have them?
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sukrit7,

If I were you, here is what I'd be looking at.

Used
1) Nearly new Optra Magnum
2) Laura

New
1) VW Vento diesel
Terrific suggestion. I never thought of the optra magnum. Is maintenance easy?
Availability of spares ?

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@sukrit: Yes Cedia is CNG compatible. Look around there are a few very good pieces available in Delhi. I agree with the posts here, look no further than a Civic/Cedia. I would ahve said a Linea as well but since you are not happy with the Punto experience so will not.
Elantra is also a viable option if you can find a decent example.

OT: Have you sold the Altura already? Did it have the fog lamps? If you Have not can I have them?
That's great news. Thanks wanderernomad. The search will begin very soon. Incase you have a lead please please let me know.
The linea is out of my budget currently. The elantra my family would not accept as it is discontinued.

No, I haven't sold the car but unfortunately I don't have the fog lamps. As far as I remember, the stopped working a long time back and we never replaced them. Now, they're no longer there. Sorry :(
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The best car on CNG will be corolla without any doubts. If you go with CNG then corolla is your best bet.
However diesel will offer you the best of both the worlds i.e. economy and performance. For your budget i guess the best option will be Optra magnum diesel mainly because:
1. It has comfortable and spacious back seat. Ideal for chauffeur driven.
2. It is reasonably fast (faster then verna) and with good tyres it can give you decent grip as well. So driving pleasure is up for grabs.
Alternatively you can look at used sonata CRDI as well but i guess it can be slightly outside your budget.
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Terrific suggestion. I never thought of the optra magnum. Is maintenance easy?
Availability of spares ?
I hope some Magnum owners on this forum could comment about the questions.

I mentioned nearly new, because,
1) You could continue the warranty or even get an extended one.

2) You are in Delhi, where premium cars depreciate heavily. So, I guess you could locate an almost new Optra Magnum under 7 Lakhs easily.
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