Go Back   Team-BHP > BHP India > What Car? > Sedans


Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 23rd October 2010, 21:08   #1
Team-BHP Support
 
noopster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 8,662
Thanked: 9,184 Times
Default Wait for Vento AT or go with Laura DSG?

Hi fellow TBHPians,

I am facing a strange dilemma. I have already booked the VW Vento 1.6 AT, after reading and re-reading GTO's fantastic review and pretty much everything else under the sun on slushboxes, petrol versus diesel etc. on the forums.

The decision (I thought) was final. Despite some misgivings about not going for the diesel Vento, the slushbox eventually won out because I have been a fan of ATs since very young and hate what my left knee goes through while doing the Bombay ends of my runs to and from Pune.

So I went and paid my 75K to VW Pune folks and decided to wait for my baby to arrive. Only to find out that these guys have absolutely NO idea when the car will arrive. Each guy I talk to tells a different story: the first response is 3-4 months, one guy said 5 months , another says "November/December" but when I tell him it's Terra Beige I want, changes the story to "Oh no sir, those are only getting produced in January"! So when do I get it then? A shrug.

I had some free time today and decided to check out my "also-ran" choices just to make sure I hadn't missed out on anything in my downselection process. The 2 main contenders were the Chevy Cruze LTZ AT and the Skoda Laura 2.0 TDi AT. (I didn't consider the Honda Civic and eliminated its younger sibling the City AT after a TD- it frankly didn't excite me. Neither did the Toyota Altis 1.8 AT. Maybe I am biased against the Japanese...but then my current ride is a Swift!)

So off I went. The Chevy experience was boring- the car is OK, but the back seat was cramped and the price tag (16.72 OTR) put me off. They weren't even willing to commit any discounts. And frankly I am not a big fan of the Chevy badge.

So then I drove down the road to the Skoda showroom. And promptly fell in love with the Laura!

Enough's been said about the Laura elsewhere, so let me come down to what I liked vis-a-vis the Vento:
- DSG gearbox over the regular slushbox of the VW.
- Awe-inspiring 2 litre 140 BHP 320 Nm diesel engine. Can it get better than this?
- Interiors are better than the Vento. The one I checked out with Ambiente (low-end) trim seemed better equipped than the Vento Highline. Has some bells and whistles like ARS (some variant of traction control/ESP), automatic wipers, AUX enabled ICE etc. It lacked automatic climate control, though.

But what I positively loved was the rich feel of the car: the numerous nooks and crannies for storing stuff, the cooled glove box and "chocolate cabinet" under the driver armrest, the humungous boot (560 litres!), the incredibly comfy rear seats, the mini-Superb looks etc. Most of all, I loved the way I was treated by the sales staff (the same agency handles the A.S.S. as well, which gives me hope!) There is also no wait period an I could be driving this baby around by Diwali if I so wish!

Tempting eh?

The rub is that it propels me out of my comfort zone in terms of budget- OTR will be 16.5 lac or so after all discounts compared to 10.3 for Vento. But my biggest fear is that 3 years down the road, would I feel like a fool for not making the big leap when I could? After all 10 lac+ is not a small amount for a car! What if I end up disappointed?

I'd like you guys' inputs on this. I haven't TDed the Laura yet (probably tomorrow) and the missus isn't all that pleased at the thought of the 6 additional big ones! But the more I think about it, the more the idea of making the segment leap is appealing to me. Am I stupid?

-Anoop
noopster is offline  
Old 23rd October 2010, 21:24   #2
Distinguished - BHPian
 
drmohitg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Delhi
Posts: 4,477
Thanked: 3,619 Times
Default

Hey noopster I can understand your dilemma. Whats your usual run and other requirements/expectations from the car? Anyways Here is what I will suggest. The laura is an absolute gorgeous car. My friend drives one and has been driving it without any trouble from the last 2-3 years. As you have also noticed you cannot compare the two cars. Its unfair to both. The interiors, Gadgets, Ride quality and Status tag- all are much higher for the Laura. On the other hand the Vento is also a very much VFM product in its segment.
So the first and foremost thing you have to consider is how much 'moolah' are you willing to spend on your car? Both while buying and also on the A**.
Secondly and more importantly Are you Willing to take the Risk of buying a skoda?
Answer the above 2 questions honestly and then decide.

If I were in your shoes I would go with a pleased missus and a Vento and not otherwise
drmohitg is offline  
Old 23rd October 2010, 21:29   #3
Team-BHP Support
 
Akshay1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 9,759
Thanked: 6,665 Times
Default

Well if you really do like the Laura then do go for it. It is a very good car, and the build quality and feel is a level higher than the Vento/Polo.

Also you will prefer the DSG much, much more over a normal a/t.

Like you said even the Ambiente has more features than the Vento highline, besides the Climate control.

Overall its got a stonker of an engine, great ride and handling, and im reasonably sure the Skoda a.s.s wont be much worse than its parent company VW. You said the dealer seemed good so thats a positive.

If you do plan to keep the car for a while IMO it makes sense to stretch your budget, as long as its easy enough for you. See you are not going for the top end Laura so if you are really going all out to buy the Laura I would suggest you stick to the Vento and upgrade sooner than you would have to maybe the Laura L&K.

Last edited by Akshay1234 : 23rd October 2010 at 21:33.
Akshay1234 is offline  
Old 23rd October 2010, 21:48   #4
Senior - BHPian
 
vnabhi's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: DC -> DC
Posts: 5,264
Thanked: 1,233 Times
Default

A pal of my pal was in a similar dilemma. He TD'd the Laura, Cruze and the Vento. Since Vento was cheaper, he booked it a couple of weeks ago.

But even now he is not sure if it will take 2 months or 4 to get the car. He got fed up and booked a Laura today--the Ambiente version, but manual.
vnabhi is offline  
Old 23rd October 2010, 22:45   #5
BHPian
 
v.anand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 320
Thanked: 35 Times
Default

Go for Laura if you can make that small stretch in budget. The car is so much more better than Vento, its not even worth discussing. I was in a similar dilemma recently thinking between City, Civic and Laura TSI and the latter eventually won the vote. Skoda is even offering Skoda Shield free with the diesels currently, so peace of mind for 4 years of ownership. A.S.S wise, I don't see much difference between Skoda and VW and luckily Skoda is good in Bangalore for me.
v.anand is offline  
Old 23rd October 2010, 23:19   #6
Distinguished - BHPian
 
drmohitg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Delhi
Posts: 4,477
Thanked: 3,619 Times
Default

Why not also consider the Jetta? BTW when is the new Jetta coming to india. I read somewhere early 2011. So may be you can keep the vento booking and take a look at that one later.
drmohitg is offline  
Old 24th October 2010, 00:25   #7
Team-BHP Support
 
noopster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 8,662
Thanked: 9,184 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by drmohitg View Post
If I were in your shoes I would go with a pleased missus and a Vento and not otherwise
You said it, man! But more to the point, it's a helluva lotta money. And yes the Vento is true VFM.

Quote:
Originally Posted by akshay1234 View Post
...if you are really going all out to buy the Laura I would suggest you stick to the Vento and upgrade sooner than you would have to maybe the Laura L&K.
Wow, it's like you guys can read my mind. The main reason I was (am) so excited about the Vento is that it allows me to save up for my next car, which will DEFINITELY be in the luxe segment. The Superb is already on the shortlist, and perhaps automakers will get the market sentiment and offer a whole lot more in the around-20 lac segment soon.

Quote:
Originally Posted by vnabhi View Post
A pal of my pal was in a similar dilemma. But even now he is not sure if it will take 2 months or 4 to get the car. He got fed up and booked a Laura today--the Ambiente version, but manual.
Good for him. Seriously, if the VW folks had the decency to inform their dealers about their production & delivery schedules, I would probably have spent the weekend roaming boredly around a mall instead of ripping down the highway between auto showrooms! The uncertainty is killing.

Quote:
Originally Posted by v.anand View Post
Go for Laura if you can make that small stretch in budget. The car is so much more better than Vento, its not even worth discussing.
True. I get what you're saying, but "small" stretch? We're talking a 60% increase in outlay here

Quote:
Originally Posted by drmohitg View Post
Why not also consider the Jetta?
Did too. Wifey loved it. But the 2.0 TDi AT is priced at nearly 20 lac OTR. I can (almost) get an MT Superb for that!
noopster is offline  
Old 24th October 2010, 01:18   #8
BHPian
 
prateekm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Mumbai & BLR
Posts: 756
Thanked: 311 Times
Default

Interested in going the 2nd hand way? You would get a '07 L&K DSG for about the price of an Vento. Yes maintenance could be a high bit higher than a new Laura, but you save 6 lacs. Use it for 2-3 years, sell it for 5-6l and upgrade to a Superb. 2nd hand cars take VFM to a whole new level.

Also, I prefered the looks of the old gen Laura than the new one

Last edited by prateekm : 24th October 2010 at 01:19.
prateekm is online now  
Old 24th October 2010, 01:27   #9
Team-BHP Support
 
Akshay1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 9,759
Thanked: 6,665 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by noopster View Post
Wow, it's like you guys can read my mind. The main reason I was (am) so excited about the Vento is that it allows me to save up for my next car, which will DEFINITELY be in the luxe segment. The Superb is already on the shortlist, and perhaps automakers will get the market sentiment and offer a whole lot more in the around-20 lac segment soon.
In that case forget the Laura now since it is an upgrade, but not a HUGE upgrade. Keep the Vento for 2-3 years, I am reasonably sure it will have a decent resale value, then sell it and get a luxury car.

Get a Vento and enjoy it man.

Quote:
Originally Posted by prateekm View Post
Interested in going the 2nd hand way? You would get a '07 L&K DSG for about the price of an Vento. Yes maintenance could be a high bit higher than a new Laura, but you save 6 lacs. Use it for 2-3 years, sell it for 5-6l and upgrade to a Superb. 2nd hand cars take VFM to a whole new level.

Also, I prefered the looks of the old gen Laura than the new one
I wouldnt do this. Firstly its the old gen engine, which is only 105ps. Secondly the AC compressor was beefed up in the facelift. And personally I think these cars have too many electronics. I wouldnt buy used unless its from a trusted source or if a BMW or Merc from their respective dealerships.
Akshay1234 is offline  
Old 24th October 2010, 15:27   #10
BHPian
 
msd63's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 95
Thanked: 2 Times
Default

If you can wait, then wait for the Jetta. I was almost tempted to the buy the jetta trendline when the Vento was announced and ended up buying the Vento Diesel which I am so far satisfied. However the Jetta is in a different league and the reason I did not go for jetta was, it was going to be replaced soon and of course the cost difference. The Jetta appeared more well put together car than the Laura. The new Jetta hopefully will come with the AT variant.When you are comparing a 10L car with a 20L car, value for money becomes an important factor
msd63 is offline  
Old 24th October 2010, 16:31   #11
Team-BHP Support
 
noopster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 8,662
Thanked: 9,184 Times
Default

@prateekm, thanks for the tip. I am not looking for a used car (Honda Civic was also suggested by another BHPian) and one of the main factors for the dilemma is the 140 BHP engine on the AT Laura (the MT generates 110, same as Vento). So will probably take akshay and others' advice here and get the Vento for now. The 2011 Jetta incidentally will lose the classic styling and go the Polo/Vento way, which is a pity! But other than that, it looks good and there could be a whole slew of other options to look at from other manufacturers as well. Unless the Laura totally blows us away on the TD, the decision seems made for now!
noopster is offline  
Old 24th October 2010, 16:36   #12
Team-BHP Support
 
Akshay1234's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Mumbai
Posts: 9,759
Thanked: 6,665 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by noopster View Post
Unless the Laura totally blows us away on the TD, the decision seems made for now!
WAITTT, you havent taken a td yet? Then that just complicates it.

Post here after your td, and also please do TD the Cruze. I was under the impression you had test driven both. Now that you havent, the Cruze engine will surprise you. Dont miss it.
Akshay1234 is offline  
Old 24th October 2010, 16:42   #13
Team-BHP Support
 
noopster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Pune
Posts: 8,662
Thanked: 9,184 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by akshay1234 View Post
WAITTT, you havent taken a td yet? Then that just complicates it.

Post here after your td, and also please do TD the Cruze. I was under the impression you had test driven both. Now that you havent, the Cruze engine will surprise you. Dont miss it.
LOL, ok. BTW my Vento AT test drive was a bit of a joke too. Half a kilometre round the block in downtown Pune traffic.
noopster is offline  
Old 24th October 2010, 21:28   #14
BHPian
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 91
Thanked: 5 Times
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by v.anand View Post
Go for Laura if you can make that small stretch in budget. The car is so much more better than Vento, its not even worth discussing. I was in a similar dilemma recently thinking between City, Civic and Laura TSI and the latter eventually won the vote. Skoda is even offering Skoda Shield free with the diesels currently, so peace of mind for 4 years of ownership. A.S.S wise, I don't see much difference between Skoda and VW and luckily Skoda is good in Bangalore for me.
Which dealer in Bangalore do you recommend for the Laura?
GloryManUnited is offline  
Old 24th October 2010, 22:40   #15
BHPian
 
v.anand's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bangalore
Posts: 320
Thanked: 35 Times
Default

Hi GloryManUnited, its Vinayak Skoda without a doubt. Before them, Skoda scene in Bangalore was hell with respect to dealership experience and after sales support from Tafe.
v.anand is offline  
Closed Thread


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Happiness is 'Doing Something Good' (DSG) : My Skoda Rapid TDI DSG in Black & White MadAbtCars Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 56 15th August 2017 09:51
Black Lightning: My Skoda Superb 1.8 TSI DSG-UPDATE: DSG box replaced! Swanand Inamdar Test-Drives & Initial Ownership Reports 130 10th September 2012 13:01
Scorpio SLX CRDE or Wait for Scorpio Eagle or Used Elantra or Wait for Skoda Fabia ? dharmu99 Hatchbacks 9 25th October 2007 12:22


All times are GMT +5.5. The time now is 14:09.

Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Team-BHP.com
Proudly powered by E2E Networks