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Old 27th September 2012, 14:57   #61
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What I hate about google is that everyone does not get same results!
The search results are personalized!
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Somebody is trying to sell their search engine (https://duckduckgo.com/)

Regarding personalized searches & ads, I would like that. I am not a python programmer but when I search for python (reptile), all I get is programming links.

The companies talk about big data, targeted ads et al. But in practice and I haven't got anything useful from internet ads. So far its been lousy.
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Somebody is trying to sell their search engine (https://duckduckgo.com/)

Regarding personalized searches & ads, I would like that. I am not a python programmer but when I search for python (reptile), all I get is programming links.

The companies talk about big data, targeted ads et al. But in practice and I haven't got anything useful from internet ads. So far its been lousy.
Of course they are trying to sell theirs.
But the point that they have highlighted is valid and verified by me.
If you have to struggle to reach for the second page to get relevant results (rather than what google thinks is appropriate for you) - then it doesn't matter whether its google or yahoo/bing or clusty etc.

In fact I regularly try to search same things across different search engines - google doesn't do any greater than others.

In that regards I really fail to see the hype surrounding Google.
They are not the first search engine on the web, and they really haven't done anything great. Their claim to fame was, really speaking, gmail which gave GBs of mailbox space for free - compared to others who gave only 10-100 MB and few offered paid mailboxes for not even a GB at that time (circa 1999-2003).

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In that regards I really fail to see the hype surrounding Google. They are not the first search engine on the web, and they really haven't done anything great.
True, Google is not the first search engine but so far till now, they are still the best. Their claim to fame was their superior algorithm to show the top results, which no other search engine had in 99s & 2000s. After 12 years, others (such as bing) are still trying to catch up. BTW, 98% of Google revenue comes from their search engine, rest just add to their portfolio.

We take good results in search engine for granted today. But when Google came, they did disrupt the existing search engine business.
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True, Google is not the first search engine but so far till now, they are still the best. Their claim to fame was their superior algorithm to show the top results, which no other search engine had in 99s & 2000s. After 12 years, others (such as bing) are still trying to catch up. BTW, 98% of Google revenue comes from their search engine, rest just add to their portfolio.

We take good results in search engine for granted today. But when Google came, they did disrupt the existing search engine business.
Well most people google because "everyone" else around them googles.
Tell me one person in your vicinity who uses Yahoo search.

But do you know there are many people who have stuck to Yahoo (Yahoo was one of the first popular search engines in the 90s). It is still no.2

Strange that with No.2 position - you don't find people in India using Yahoo search as much. That's because most net users in India came about when Google was at the pinnacle of hype.

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I thought about this some time ago. And as a rule I decided not to use google for a week. And you know what I did that week? I used bing.
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I thought about this some time ago. And as a rule I decided not to use google for a week. And you know what I did that week? I used bing.
So did you feel you missed something in your search?
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So did you feel you missed something in your search?
Nothing much. I got what I needed pretty quickly.
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A classic case of the convenience/technology making the users its slaves. In my profession I find if Google shut down, nearly all our people would become useless. Working in IT, I had the fortune of starting out before Google was born. Today I see the juniors typing away in Google any and everything they want to solve. While it does save your skin when facing tight deadlines and unexpected issues, it also takes away the most important opportunity of learning through trial and error.
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In the 6 years since I started this thread, I use a lot more Google Products than just search. Here's a short list

Gmail
Android (Smart Phone)
Play Store (to distribute the Team-BHP App)
Chrome Browser
Google Drive
Google Analytics
Google Ad Manager
Google Adsense
Custom Search Engine (on Team-BHP.com)
Google News & Subscriptions
Google Music (migration in the near future)

A huge fan, nobody does it like Google!

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The flipside of Google and FB success....

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Thanks Samurai, for this find. Everything available these days has a flip side to it. When the Algorithms controls our search and shows us the relevant information it saves a lot of time. I am sure if we narrow our search to a particular find, we may reach to more intrinsic levels.

Some controls are good, when I see my 10 year old son using google as a tool to do a lot of his assignments. Atleast, he gets a filtered information based on his usage pattern captured by algorithms.
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And you know what I did that week? I used bing.
There is a reason why Bing or Yahoo hasn't caught up. Try searching for something you know. Google would give better results most of the time. Google overtook Yahoo long back & quite unlikely Yahoo will catch up. Bing is new kid (now an adult) but so far hasn't made any impact.

The problem with Yahoo & Bing is, when I get the results, I am not sure whether those results are the best. So I Google.

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The flipside of Google and FB success....
Google will be in business as along it provides good search results as perceived by the users. Cost of switching search engine is cheap. If google is found wanting, users will change their home page to the new search engine.

There are tools which block Google & other tracking sites from collecting information. One such tool is Disconnect. Hence you get non-customized results.

PS: FB is different beast. Here other users control what I see. So I don't have much option.
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