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Old 3rd September 2010, 09:15   #1531
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Guys with GSD's enlighten me about the size.
How many years did your GSD take to come to adult size.
MY GSD is one year old and still very much a puppy kind.Although he has reached full breed height of 26 inches, he is yet to grow wider and fuller.
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size also depends on his genes and pedigree. How are his parents ? have you seen them ? I am assuming your GSD is a short hair variety, in which case, he might not grow wider or heavier but will be very healthy.

I myself hav a short haired GSD & he looks like a puppy though he is 9 months old. Weighs 6kgs lesser than the usual long hair one, but every doc/trainer says this guy is very healthy & active, dont worry.

So, just dont overfeed him thinking he ll grow, he might not !! post up a few pics and we ll know how he is buddy

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Yeah I was thinking about the same. Was wondering, if the dogs would allow me to trim the hair from their body. Specially the private parts and I want to trim just hair. Just kidding.

Actually my GSDs are double coated and lots of fur. Specially the tail. It is as dense as 2 brooms kept together.
are you serious ?? why do you want to trim ? i think you are not comfortable managing his shedding cycle and want to get rid of the furr at once, so new furr grows. If that is what you have in mind, trimming might not help bro.

The coat falls off from the folicles & you cant trim to that extent. So after trimming also you ll see him shedding all around the place. Best is brush him rigorously twice or thrice a day till he s done with shedding & then twice a week. trimming can make him vulnerable to skin infections
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Old 3rd September 2010, 09:29   #1532
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are you serious ?? why do you want to trim ? i think you are not comfortable managing his shedding cycle and want to get rid of the furr at once, so new furr grows. If that is what you have in mind, trimming might not help bro.

The coat falls off from the folicles & you cant trim to that extent. So after trimming also you ll see him shedding all around the place. Best is brush him rigorously twice or thrice a day till he s done with shedding & then twice a week. trimming can make him vulnerable to skin infections
Not exactly.

Every GSD needs their hair trimmed once in a lifetime atleast. I did not find a logic of them getting skin infection because of trimming (it is good for their skin and hair both).

Am not doing it because of their shedding. Infact, both my GSD's hair don't shed. It is very less so I am not at all bothered. Trimming basically helps to get rid of ticks and let teh dog's skin bloom (Ayurvedic bath+oil message+medicinal treatment to the scalp etc etc). Normally in GSDs which have double coated fur, you can't even see their skin and is a happy home for ticks. People often think that when dogs don't itch their body, their are no ticks but it's wrong. Their skin is less sensitive and they don't even feel if you pierce a needle into their skin.

I also consulted the vet and first thing on his face was a smile and he said it is very much required. trimming to extent depends on the trimmer you use.

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Not exactly.

Every GSD needs their hair trimmed once in a lifetime atleast. I did not find a logic of them getting skin infection because of trimming (it is good for their skin and hair both).

Am not doing it because of their shedding. Infact, both my GSD's hair don't shed. It is very less so I am not at all bothered. Trimming basically helps to get rid of ticks and let teh dog's skin bloom (Ayurvedic bath+oil message+medicinal treatment to the scalp etc etc). Normally in GSDs which have double coated fur, you can't even see their skin and is a happy home for ticks. People often think that when dogs don't itch their body, their are no ticks but it's wrong. Their skin is less sensitive and they don't even feel if you pierce a needle into their skin.

I also consulted the vet and first thing on his face was a smile and he said it is very much required. trimming to extent depends on the trimmer you use.
hmmm interesting about the health facts. But it is debatable. Trimming can cause skin infections, because the hair is lesser and covering minimal on the skin, which is now more exposed to fungi & bacteria in the air. A dog's skin on the contrary to human skin, doesnt sweat and oils itself well. I dont think you need ayurvedic bath/oils. All a dog needs is oil intake in the food itself, to keep their skin healthy, coz they dont have sweat pores than can absorb oil like ours !! so i doubt how good an oil bath will work for a dog skin.

for ticks i use bolfo powder twice a month, and brush him twice a week. I also go through his skin with a fine comb and keen interest to look for ticks which i rarely find. dogs that stay & grow indoors rarely get infected with ticks unless you let them play around in mud/street dogs.

anyways, mine is a short hair GSD, so it might be different from long hair one you have. lemme know hw your trimming goes on
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hmmm interesting about the health facts. But it is debatable. Trimming can cause skin infections, because the hair is lesser and covering minimal on the skin, which is now more exposed to fungi & bacteria in the air.
He he. Just watched detol AD eeh? Fungi & bacteria and all.

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A dog's skin on the contrary to human skin, doesnt sweat and oils itself well. I dont think you need ayurvedic bath/oils.
Forget about oil bath. Have you heard about oil massage to dogs? No I guess.

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All a dog needs is oil intake in the food itself, to keep their skin healthy, coz they dont have sweat pores than can absorb oil like ours !! so i doubt how good an oil bath will work for a dog skin.
Works good and their skin do absorb oil, All living skins do in mammals, and all have pores in it. Where did u hear there are no pores?

Do Dogs sweat? (google)
Yes, they do. Dogs have 2 types of sweat glands. The first type is called merocrine glands. These are located in the foot pads of dogs (and cats) and function to help cool the animal. The second type is called apocrine glands. These are located on most of the rest of the dog (and cat) but they do not function to cool the animal. Their purpose is to release pheromones.

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dogs that stay & grow indoors rarely get infected with ticks
Infact no. Indoor dogs get ticks equally

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anyways, mine is a short hair GSD, so it might be different from long hair one you have. lemme know hw your trimming goes on
Sure will post pictures. I know they will look extremely funny but it has to happen.
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He he. Just watched detol AD eeh? Fungi & bacteria and all.
he he he may be !!

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Forget about oil bath. Have you heard about oil massage to dogs? No I guess.
have seen it in a movie called hatchiko, but never heard it again in real life. So pardon my ignorance


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Works good and their skin do absorb oil, All living skins do in mammals, and all have pores in it. Where did u hear there are no pores?
well there are pores, but they already secrete oil unlike ours. That is what i meant. i dont think they require oil from external application. i might be wrong but even my doc says for the furr to be healthy, leave it alone, add cod liver oil in the food or sunflower oil also will do, which will help him secrete oil & keep his furr glowing & strong.

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Do Dogs sweat? (google)
Yes, they do. Dogs have 2 types of sweat glands. The first type is called merocrine glands. These are located in the foot pads of dogs (and cats) and function to help cool the animal. The second type is called apocrine glands. These are located on most of the rest of the dog (and cat) but they do not function to cool the animal. Their purpose is to release pheromones.
i hope you realize the area of Footspads for a dog. They use Panting as a primary method of cooling themselves, rather than footpads. search again buddy. the first link that comes out in a search is not the only answer always

Ok.. it is only a difference of opinions/perceptions between us probably. so.. "Each to his own" ! just lemme know how the trimming goes

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Sure will post pictures. I know they will look extremely funny but it has to happen
waiting.
I know quite a few GSDs which look funny. Even mine for that matter, has long ears and looks damn funny when clicked in a few angles.

btw, did u ever try trimming your GSD's nails atleast ? i want to know if he allows you to trim his hair. My fellow is excessively sensitive about anything that makes noise. He doesnt allow be to blow dry his hair when i bathe him. So trimming is a total NO. he ll kill me
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btw, did u ever try trimming your GSD's nails atleast ? i want to know if he allows you to trim his hair. My fellow is excessively sensitive about anything that makes noise. He doesnt allow be to blow dry his hair when i bathe him. So trimming is a total NO. he ll kill me
One of my GSD is very calm and when he gets angry you better stay away. Noone can stop him. This guy lets me do anything with his body. Giving him bath, he sits quietly and lifts his legs, tails opens mouth everything I tell him he will do it. Giving him bath is an easy task. Nail clipping is done during the visits to the vet and they find no problem with this guy.

The other one is hyper active. He has a problem with anyone passing the house. He does not let anyone touch him. He wants love, but only when we go home, after a few rub he goes back on the staircase and watches for people passing so that he can scare them. Giving him bath is a big big task. He will try to run away from even a hole. It takes me around 1 hour to give him bath. Drying it he does it himself on the terrace. Nail clipping is again a task. Last vet visit, there were 3 docs helping me to pin him down to get his nails clipped. After all of us were unsuccessful they gave me a solution to get him mated or neutral
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The other one is hyper active. He has a problem with anyone passing the house. He does not let anyone touch him. He wants love, but only when we go home, after a few rub he goes back on the staircase and watches for people passing so that he can scare them. Giving him bath is a big big task. He will try to run away from even a hole. It takes me around 1 hour to give him bath. Drying it he does it himself on the terrace. Nail clipping is again a task. Last vet visit, there were 3 docs helping me to pin him down to get his nails clipped. After all of us were unsuccessful they gave me a solution to get him mated or neutral
LOL

mine is a mix of both your dogs i believe. He is silent when we clip his nails/brush him/brush his teeth. while bathing, he is ok at times and totally not ok at times (mood swings).
He has a problem with anyone passing through, as long as he is awake. once he starts to sleep, nothing bothers him. He is sort of adamant and trying to win over the pack. So we put him into training these days. And his response is good. finally, he sits on command
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Here's a pic of one of my 11 cats. I will try and post a pic of all 11 together if I can get them all to stay put in one place without fighting for a minute!
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^ Cute one WAG7. Do post the pics of the other ladies too

I love the indian breed of cats as well as dogs.

Heard this from a friend who has 2 indian mongrels

Guests coming to our house, often asked politely,
Guest: "What breed is this"?
Me : "Police dog
Guest : What? Never seen a poilce dog of this kind?
Me : Actually, he works undercover.
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Don't you find them much the same as other cats around the world? Mine is!
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Don't you find them much the same as other cats around the world? Mine is!
Actually I find them move adaptable to indian terrain and climate.
We have a couple of Persian cats at my aunt's place and everytime I go there she is busy trimming their fur/hair.On the contrary the indian breeds can be left on their own.I have had my share of kittens and cats during my childhood and they never even needed to be fed.They used to hunt squirrels and mice and always remained active.
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it's my close friend's pet (chintu) i shot him on my cam long back and found the photo recently in my PC
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Actually I find them move adaptable to indian terrain and climate.
We have a couple of Persian cats at my aunt's place and everytime I go there she is busy trimming their fur/hair.On the contrary the indian breeds can be left on their own.I have had my share of kittens and cats during my childhood and they never even needed to be fed.They used to hunt squirrels and mice and always remained active.
The pedigree cats are different, and I never had one. My cats were always common-or-garden domestic cats. They are just the same, and, unless they are made lazy by regular feeding will be self-sufficient. British bird lovers often do not love the local cats. My last British cat used to eat a whole bird, just leaving a feather or two: she had been a stray, and it took her several years of home food to give it up.

Now, when our Indian cats arrived (off the street, a mother and three kittnes), my wife asked if they were actually good for anything, like a dog. I said that we wouldn't have rats and mice. I couldn't have been more wrong: they would sit and watch a rat! We have just one member of the family left now. I'm not sorry she doesn't attack birds (even the crows know this and take no notice, whereas they used to dive-bomb her brother) but I wish she would do what she should with the rats!
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^ Cute one WAG7. Do post the pics of the other ladies too

I love the indian breed of cats as well as dogs.

Heard this from a friend who has 2 indian mongrels

Guests coming to our house, often asked politely,
Guest: "What breed is this"?
Me : "Police dog
Guest : What? Never seen a poilce dog of this kind?
Me : Actually, he works undercover.

People can be hilariously funny (unintentionally) owing to their firm belief that only "pure bred" or "pedigreed" dogs are worth being called dogs.... the others are just "strays".

1) Once a person staying opposite my place asked me about my 2 Indian breed dogs ... "Are these branded dogs"?
2) A friend had put up a notice for adoption of 2 stray puppies.... people kept calling to find out what their breed was... one person asked her what the "caste" of the dogs was .
As if we don't have enough stupid class/caste based biases amongst humans already!

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but I wish she would do what she should with the rats!
I guess this is a misconception about the whole cat and mouse story made popular by tom and jerry. My cats during my childhood days just ignored the mice at home.They would elegantly pass by any mouse roaming around as they never existed

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"Are these branded dogs"?
one person asked her what the "caste" of the dogs was .
LOL. People can be so ignorant and intellectually blind.
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