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Old 22nd June 2011, 15:06   #1951
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The problems you mention are just part of having an animal. Probably none of them are as bad as the problems one gets with having a child! But they are very similar, and so is the responsibility.

She will use a litter box, if you introduce her to it properly. Cats will not make their home dirty --- although if they decide that one corner is toilet, then you have an ongoing problem.

I think post-op animals are better off at the vet until they are fully conscious and not staggering at all. That may mean boarding overnight after the op. After that, I would not keep them caged unless there was some special reason.
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Old 22nd June 2011, 19:45   #1952
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Thanks for the reply guys,

I spoke to my vet and he suggested what blackasta said, Get her spayed and keep her in a cage till she recovers.

But the problem is, she gets really wild if she is not let out of the house when she wants to.(for her nature calls)

Problem 2- My mom is really worried about her dirtying the place even if i have a litter box. And buying a big cage just for a weeks use makes no sense.

My vet advised me to take her to CUPA in Bangalore, get her operated and keep her there till she recovers, I'm sure they will have cages to keep her.
Any inputs on CUPA guys?
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The problems you mention are just part of having an animal. Probably none of them are as bad as the problems one gets with having a child! But they are very similar, and so is the responsibility.

She will use a litter box, if you introduce her to it properly. Cats will not make their home dirty --- although if they decide that one corner is toilet, then you have an ongoing problem.

I think post-op animals are better off at the vet until they are fully conscious and not staggering at all. That may mean boarding overnight after the op. After that, I would not keep them caged unless there was some special reason.
This has been my experience.

I took my princess to CUPA in RT Nagar to get the unspeakable done.

The unspeakable lasted an hour. I was not allowed into the operation room even though I wanted to come in, since I was petrified of leaving her in someone else's hands.

The doctor said I would probably faint and figured its best I stayed out and prayed like mom's usually do.

She was heavily sedated.

I took her home bandaged et all.

She woke up but was very groggy when we reached home. She immediately found a space in my cupboard and went in and hid herself.

I left her there for a while. Kept checking on her by opening the cupboard every once in a while.

She tried walking to her food but kept falling because of the sedatives. Put me off big time and I was seriously wondering if I did the right thing.

Just had to make sure she wouldn't lick her scars or else they will never heal and could become infected. I kept an eye on her and used to push her head away if she went near her stomach area.

She was left in an open space but NOT outside the house. I have never let her outside my house alone. She is pretty much home schooled and I prefer to keep her that way.

Welcome to being owned :-)
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Old 22nd June 2011, 20:43   #1953
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We have had cats in our house for generations - and we never interfered in their breeding (actually I wanted to - but there is a strange reluctance from my other family members - guess it has to do with not tampering with nature's ways).
This might sound strange - but lately (2-3 years) they have adapted their breeding pattern. Normally a cat gives birth every 4 months to a 3-5 kitten litter. The cats in our house only breed once - twice a year with a litter size of 1-2.

As for cats being intolerant to milk - our cats actually crave milk in the morning and afternoon (teatime!) - and shall wake us up if necessary! Dunno how we are going to stop that.
As a person who adores cats like they are my own children, hearing about your love for them makes me feel very nice!

I have always had cats that littered only once a year. Never more!

Yeah they seem to love milk for whatever its worth!!

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She was left in an open space but NOT outside the house. I have never let her outside my house alone. She is pretty much home schooled and I prefer to keep her that way.

Welcome to being owned :-)
I always ensure my cats can fend for themselves and survive on their own. That allows me to go on vacation for weeks or leave for work without worrying too much. and I always ensure there is an entry point and exit for them to come and go at will. I have made it a point never to fill their tummies all the time - maybe morning, and evening. I make sure their hunting and survival instinct is in shape. Watching my cats in the garden has been my own Nat Geo channel before TV arrived in India. Life is easier if you don't pamper them so much that they wont survive without you.

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Old 22nd June 2011, 21:07   #1954
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As a person who adores cats like they are my own children, hearing about your love for them makes me feel very nice!

I have always had cats that littered only once a year. Never more!

Yeah they seem to love milk for whatever its worth!!



I always ensure my cats can fend for themselves and survive on their own. That allows me to go on vacation for weeks or leave for work without worrying too much. and I always ensure there is an entry point and exit for them to come and go at will. I have made it a point never to fill their tummies all the time - maybe morning, and evening. I make sure their hunting and survival instinct is in shape. Watching my cats in the garden has been my own Nat Geo channel before TV arrived in India. Life is easier if you don't pamper them so much that they wont survive without you.

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Yes a cat is usually able to fend for itself a couple of days. If we are out for a day or more for any occasion - we actually leave an entry / exit point open, and leave some food in 2-3 different locations.

Domestic cats are ferocious hunters (don't know how many of you have realized this). I have no mice/rat/shrew/cockroach in my house - as anyone that arrives is promptly dealt with by my cats.
The adventurous ones (yes every cat has it own personality) go out in the garden/terrace and hunt small birds/reptiles. Those regularly land up by our kitchen/dining area (I read about this and there are 2 explanations - 1. The cat is helping its bit by bringing in some food 2. Its treating the humans as kittens and bringing them food).
There was a really eery incident where a big tom from our house went out and killed a kitten from the house down the street - and actually came back with its kill to present it to us!
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There was a really eery incident where a big tom from our house went out and killed a kitten from the house down the street - and actually came back with its kill to present it to us!

I really hate it when they do that. I have felt so broken many a times on seen my kittens traumatized and killed by the neighborhood tom.

I had my cat once gift me a garden lizard, a sparrow and a little mouse in a span of one hour!! All three alive and placed at my feet, then a quick clamber up my knees on two paws and tap with the paws to show me the offering!! I was watching TV around 7pm when he did this. I rescued all of them and made them vanish and each time he promptly got me another gift!!

The same cat learnt to do circus tricks like walking across the narrow top of the gate, then on reaching the pillar, bend down his head towards me to get patted and stroked before doing a U-Turn and repeating the game - all without a single attempt at coaching. Its as if he watched a TV show and decided to play the circus with me.

He is also the same cat that would wait by the bathroom door when I closed it and meow anxiously now and then in an enquiring tone. I would respond back with an assured tone and he would keep quiet for another few minutes, peering under the slit of the doorway then meow again enquiring about my well being. In those two years he was with me, I rarely visited the bathroom without an escort!!

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As a person who adores cats like they are my own children, hearing about your love for them makes me feel very nice!

I have always had cats that littered only once a year. Never more!

Yeah they seem to love milk for whatever its worth!!



I always ensure my cats can fend for themselves and survive on their own. That allows me to go on vacation for weeks or leave for work without worrying too much. and I always ensure there is an entry point and exit for them to come and go at will. I have made it a point never to fill their tummies all the time - maybe morning, and evening. I make sure their hunting and survival instinct is in shape. Watching my cats in the garden has been my own Nat Geo channel before TV arrived in India. Life is easier if you don't pamper them so much that they wont survive without you.

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Sorry man, but we'll have to agree to disagree. My princess travels with me in her big Scorpio wherever I go. Either that, or one from my family stays back to take care of her. I just dont let her out of my eye-sight. She's way too family now.

I used to stay in the ground floor of an apartment, and one night a tom cat prowling around entered my house through the window when I was away at work and had a pretty rabid fight with my little one. Came home to find the tom cat's poop allover the place and my little one crying.

So I moved to the 9th floor.
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Being a hardcore animal lover here are my loved ones. All of them stay inside our house and sleep on bed, sofas and wherever they like. They are toilet trained and do not litter the household at all. None of them are tied ever and we do not have a cage for them either.

Our First pet was Pinky the pom, she's R.I.P (2008) Weighs at 7kgs. A very lovable bitch. Never harmed a fly. Very active and loved going for rides on the scooter.
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This is Bixie, he's 12 years old and we have him since he was a puppy. Weighs at approx 30kgs. Very protective and has a deep barking tone, scares the daylight out of anyone. He had plenty of his share of chasing salesmen and hawkers out of the compound and he's still energetic as ever. He's never missed his daily walks I give him and loves my dad. Hates the sight of other dogs and has bitten the crap out of dogs who had accidently jumped inside our compound.
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Brownie was a stray and was spayed but was having health problems since. We adopted her from the streets and did our best to get her health in order. It took many months but in the end this is how she looks today. Weighs at 20kgs. She loves KFC the most and other goodies too. Very obedient and has designated areas in the house to sleep. Always does her toilet outside the compound usually right in the middle of the main road. Loves to be petted and cuddled. Only barks if Bixie does. Hates cats but loves to sleep.
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Bambi also was a stray and was spayed. I still remember the first time meeting her. It was a year back and this pack of dogs turned up near our gate. I had a pack of biscuits and gave them. Only Bambi stayed put at the gate for the rest of the day. She followed me whenever I went to the shop etc. We could not manage to adopt her as we already had two dogs then. Her tail was chopped of and that gave me the indication that she was owned by someone and must have escaped or been put out. We tried to shoo her off many times but she always came to our gate and followed us. She had this pitiful look in her eyes and I knew there was some connection. After a lot of trials, she's set foot into the compound slowly and today she's 100% inside the compound and sleeps on the bed. Extremely active, highly attentive and totally fearless. She gets aware 100 metres before my car approaches the gate and she's already ready waiting for me at the gate. Hates the sight of cats, killed a few rats, lizards, crickets and what not. Extremely fearless and almost bit few visitors when they stepped foot inside the compound without notifying. Has not allowed the painters and workers carry any object like buckets or tools under the impression they are robbing us. Wakes me up at 7 in the morning by lightly stamping my face with her paw and licking me as soon as I open my eyes. She's the baby of the household and weighs at 17kgs. Always troubling Brownie and not letting her sit in peace. Loves to eat anything and everything. You'll find her doing any of the three things - eating, chasing other creatures or playing with Brownie.
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These are the three muskeeters at the gate
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Also we have a white cat who comes only for food and goes off since we have dogs, she's Snow and very affectionate female cat
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Being a hardcore animal lover here are my loved ones.
Hey dude. Awesome man. You brought a smile on my face.

What lucky animals to have a home like yours. Made my day. Thanks!!
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Agree with spitfire. You have a noble heart and keep up the good work. As an animal lover i can totally relate to your emotions. And all the three musketeers look pretty good! The Pom was also very cute.
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Hey dude. Awesome man. You brought a smile on my face.

What lucky animals to have a home like yours. Made my day. Thanks!!
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Agree with spitfire. You have a noble heart and keep up the good work. As an animal lover i can totally relate to your emotions. And all the three musketeers look pretty good! The Pom was also very cute.

Thanks all, let me not discount the fact that we have two more strays which are put up in my uncle's compound next door, uncle's in Bhopal and the house is locked so that leaves us with a free compound, I keep the car parked there and lately we have two guests and they seem to be permanent ones. Both of them are strays and jump in and out of the compound whenever they please.

Introducing Bobby a.k.a Biscuit Bob
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and Bony (since she's really skinny at the moment)
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Bobby's been spayed but Bony needs to go for one, we'll take it up with the Animal Care Trust once she's put on weight and lot healthier. We've been looking after Bobby since a month and Bony's just joined the club last week.
Last night I kept a cloth on my car's windshield and this morning the cloth's on the ground and some paw marks on the bonnet, did a wipe and noticed a 10cm light hairline scratch. I love my car but did not harm the poor souls as it was my stupidity of leaving the cloth there. Naughty little bunch these two are!

And apart from all my dogs I feed one in office, I've kept her name Tutu.
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I set aside half my lunch in office for her and I carry a family pack Parle G biscuits in the car and feed the lukcy dogs I come across, Tutu gets most of the share

There are plenty more pics of stray dogs, cats and also a baby squirrel we've fed and taken care of. But since these are not our pets I guess its not ideal to put it up on this thread IMO.
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Two Irish Setters. The older one's picture is my profile picture.
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I used to stay in the ground floor of an apartment, and one night a tom cat prowling around entered my house through the window when I was away at work and had a pretty rabid fight with my little one. Came home to find the tom cat's poop allover the place and my little one crying.

So I moved to the 9th floor.
I used to take my cat on driver(ice cream parlour's) when he was 1 after taking him to SPCA for neutering he won't come anywhere near the car
Seriously you shifted for your cat? wow, how about some pics of your cat?
Am having the same problem with my cat Monu(pics are few posts back) lot's of stray cats trying to come home & fight with Monu. As a result Monu has picked up an injury on one of his claws;which is healing & it's next to impossible to take him to the vet.
He is so spooked that he won't even come out to greet me when I go home. Always hiding under the bed & has stopped going out of the house, have kept a litter box in the balcony for him. His appetite is normal loves fried fish/chicken the most! apart from daily dry cat food, raw meat, water.
Looks like there are many cat lover's here(Thad, redliner, ragul..?) who can advise me on how to handle him/draw him out?
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.... bought a fish bowl with 4 gold fishes from internet (snap deal)..1 of the gold fish died today.......
... and the rest will be dead too unless u transfer to a proper aquarium with filteration.

Two mistakes :
1. fish bowl is torture chamber for its inhabitants. Imagine swimming in stagnant excreta.

2. Gold fish are bad starter fish. They eat and give output a lot, meaning they contaminate water pretty soon.

The only fish fit for a fish bowl is a lone betta.
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He is so spooked that he won't even come out to greet me when I go home. Always hiding under the bed & has stopped going out of the house, have kept a litter box in the balcony for him. His appetite is normal loves fried fish/chicken the most! apart from daily dry cat food, raw meat, water.
Looks like there are many cat lover's here(Thad, redliner, ragul..?) who can advise me on how to handle him/draw him out?

IMO Get another cat of approximately the same age. Slowly introduce them and they should be ok. Actually he can neither go out to socialize with other cats and as you are out of home, cannot fully connect with you either. He just needs some support that's it.
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He is so spooked that he won't even come out to greet me when I go home. Always hiding under the bed & has stopped going out of the house, have kept a litter box in the balcony for him. His appetite is normal loves fried fish/chicken the most! apart from daily dry cat food, raw meat, water.
Looks like there are many cat lover's here(Thad, redliner, ragul..?) who can advise me on how to handle him/draw him out?
Try Anxiocare from Himalaya. Available at the local Himalaya Health Care outlet. It may get rid of anxiety make him feel more normal and relaxed.

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