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Old 4th September 2013, 18:45   #46
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Big empires are destined to bite the dust sooner or later.
It is a bit painful to see Nokia go. But it is what it is. One has to pay for its mistakes.
Bye Bye Nokia.
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Nokia never adapted Android or developed a good OS internally - the events unfolding today make the reasons clear.

Dont agree with that. They developed a brilliant OS in meemo and later on meego which was far superior to anything that was there on the market. Phones supporting the OS were N900 & N9. (I own both)

What was the unfortunate part was even when these phones were being rolled out, it was told in advance that they were the last of the series and there would be no support.

Elop surely had a way with this. It was at this time that Nokia decided to go in with MS - reasoning given at that time - we would want to be different. It now sounds fishy to me.

On the other hand Lumia Phones have a good OS. I like they way it handles email and MS Office docs.
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Is this not the case of the Arabs Camel (Elop, ex MS) putting his nose into the tent!!
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Interesting article by Ben Thompson that draws a different light on the merger

http://stratechery.com/2013/the-deal...akes-no-sense/
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Feels bad that Nokia(mobile) had to go this way. Everyone(almost) has owned a Nokia. There was no other phone that the whole world said YES to. My family and friends share the same sentiments.
I read somewhere that by statistics, the average life expectancy for an MNC is 15 years. In that-case, Nokia(~45 years) has long outlived its time.

Wonder if MS will retain the NOKIA badge on the up-coming phones.
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Elop's move to Nokia seems to be a deliberate effort on acquisition and now that Ballmer is out, he could even make a running for the top post at MSFT.

...he will then CRTL Microsoft for some time, before he decides to SHIFT loyalty. He will then ESC Microsoft and will ENTER Samsung. After that, Elop will attempt to DEL Microsoft and will get Samsung to INS its bid for Microsoft. Once the deal is through, it will be the END of Microsoft.
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Liked this one shared by colleague :

Yesterday it was Nokia Windows 8,
Now on its MS (Windows) ate Nokia

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There was no other phone that the whole world said YES to.
Except for the USA - where Nokia started declining more than 10 years back.
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Except for the USA - where Nokia started declining more than 10 years back.
Suppose so. USA was more thrilled by the likes of Motorola
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Really saddened to hear this. I have always owned a Nokia right from the year 1998. I tried short stints with the Moto Razr and an HTC but always came back to Nokia and Symbian. A Nokia 6600, then an E63, and an E5 (currently); i was sad when Nokia dumped their symbian platform and swtiched to Lumia. Now i'm positively terrified. I think if i dont find a symbian again, i'll go to Blackberry.

Infact Nokia's symbian followers are so used to the phone; they just cant use anything else. A friend of mine bought 2 C5's (Candybar shaped Symbians) at once because she was not sure if the symbian phone would be available later after the first one lived its life

Elop should forget that strategy of trying to migrate the Asha feature phone users into Windows because the target audiences are different. My mum doesnt understand multitasking or symbian phones, she understands good ol' Java. The vast majority of the population i know in the age band of 40+ use Java phones (Samsung/Nokia/Micromax etc). Sometimes feature phones make more sense; Elop should not try and compulsarily migrate them to Windows (which is what he is doing now by shutting symbian).

I will miss you Nokia. Please, how about a last Symbian keypad phone before the curtains go down?
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This is the dollar figures of some MS software not found on secretaries desks.

Visual Studio - a billion dolllars.
ERP, CRM and Accounting Software - another billion dollars.
Microsoft Exchange - around 2.5 billion dollars.
SQL Server - around 3.5 billion dollars.
Windows Server - 6 billion dollars
Server management software - a billion dollars.

Microsoft makes really big money on Enterprise Software.
Believe it or not, a lot of mission critical applications also run on Windows Server. Stratus servers with Windows offer very good uptimes (both Windows and server).
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Believe it or not, a lot of mission critical applications also run on Windows Server.
I know & believe it. Microsoft's major revenue earner is the enterprise market and mission critical applications are an important part of this.

Because of the failures in the Mobile Space, Vista & Win8, people think Microsoft has done very badly in Ballmer's reign. But if you look at hard data - Ballmer tripled Microsoft revenues and doubled profits since he took over.

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Owned an N900 for 3 years before moving to Galaxy S3. True multitasking and openess were the major advantages of N900 IMO. As soon as Elop moved to Nokia there were talks in talk.maemo.org that maemo and meego would be abandoned for Windows and thats turned true later. Though N900 and N9 received very good reviews it didnt become a hit with masses. Hope Jolla and Sailfish succeed.
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As a current owner of Samsung Omnia W for past 18 months i am very much satisfied with the Windows OS.

I was thinking of upgrading to Nokia Lumia 720 for which i have few queries

1. After the acquisition by Microsoft will there be any change in control of A.S.S ?

2. Will it be managed by Microsoft ?

3. Will Nokia continue to offer their A.S.S ?

4. What happens to phones that are in warranty, will it be accepted by Microsoft, if the A.S.S is controlled by them ?

5. What about products that will go out of warranty ?

Too many Questions in head
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As a current owner of Samsung Omnia W for past 18 months i am very much satisfied with the Windows OS.

I was thinking of upgrading to Nokia Lumia 720 for which i have few queries

1. After the acquisition by Microsoft will there be any change in control of A.S.S ?
At the very top level yes - even that will probably happen after 6 months or so. At the low level (i.e. service centers), I doubt if there will be any change for more than a year, I think.

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2. Will it be managed by Microsoft ?
In the long run,yes.

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3. Will Nokia continue to offer their A.S.S ?
Nope - once the acquisition, it will be managed at the top by MS but low level changes will take quite some time.

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4. What happens to phones that are in warranty, will it be accepted by Microsoft, if the A.S.S is controlled by them ?
100%, yes.

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5. What about products that will go out of warranty ?
Again, I don't think anything will change here.

I don't think there will be any reason to worry for a few years, if at all.
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