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Old 7th July 2014, 16:38   #46
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I am trying to make a small difference in my diet and been on this for some time.

Fish, I would stick with Salmon, Sardines, Tuna & Mackerel, either grilled or curry. These fishes have highest amount of Omega 3 acid which is believed to increase good cholestrol which naturally reduces the bad. Avoid Prawns and Squid.

I also avoid all red meat like Beef, Pork & Egg yolk. Chicken occasionally either grilled or roast. Brisk walking/running atleast 25mins 5-6 times a week. 2-3 cups of green tea daily and strictly no soda/packaged juice. Have lots of fruits especially Kiwi, apple, guavas.
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While the ratio is alright, but the LDL and Tris are very high, and apparently put me in moderate risk range.
They say it is the ratio of LDL to HDL (or vice versa) that counts.
Triglycerides high means you are eating everything more than your body needs.

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The seat of cholesterol production is the Liver, and the fact we have high levels is because the liver is producing it, and correct me if Im wrong - because the body; maybe; needs it.

This here is a simple article: http://www.health.harvard.edu/newswe...holesterol.htm

Here's another: http://www.disabled-world.com/artman...lesterol.shtml

I am still confused at the Triglycerides but basically they are a direct result of diet high in Carbs, specially the simple kind, high sugar intake etc, again plz correct me if I'm wrong.
Yes perhaps you are right. Liver is converting and producing cholesterol because the body requires it.
In fact from what I read the high triglycerides is a bad omen (as I said it means that the food intake is much higher than what our bodies need)
Basically triglyceride = food that has been converted to fat.
This food can be anything ranging from proteins to starch to sugar to fat.


I cannot comment about anything that you are practicing but just wanted to know what is your height and weight numbers. I read somewhere that all these are perhaps symptoms of your body not liking the excess mass (fat or even muscles!).
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I am trying to make a small difference in my diet and been on this for some time.

Fish, I would stick with Salmon, Sardines, Tuna & Mackerel, either grilled or curry. These fishes have highest amount of Omega 3 acid which is believed to increase good cholestrol which naturally reduces the bad. Avoid Prawns and Squid.

I also avoid all red meat like Beef, Pork & Egg yolk. Chicken occasionally either grilled or roast. Brisk walking/running atleast 25mins 5-6 times a week. 2-3 cups of green tea daily and strictly no soda/packaged juice. Have lots of fruits especially Kiwi, apple, guavas.
Question not exactly relevant to this thread, but nonetheless since you mentioned, any specific brand of green tea you take?

I see most of the indian green teas costing identical - and they are not really green in true sense. Is there any place which has green tea say imported from China or so?
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Question not exactly relevant to this thread, but nonetheless since you mentioned, any specific brand of green tea you take?

I see most of the indian green teas costing identical - and they are not really green in true sense. Is there any place which has green tea say imported from China or so?
You can get the expensive imported ones in big stores like Nilgiris or Nuts & Spices etc. I buy just regular Lipton or Tetley. I also got some from Munnar, but that was leaves. Bags are easier to make.
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Ayurveda also has 3 other borderline offerings: Red Yeast Rice, Natural CoQ10 and Omega-3.
Where do you get Ayurvedic CoQ10 and Omega-3?

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Red Yeast Rice is basically the precursor to Lovastatin, and while one is a commercial success, the other is a barely known dietary supplement with similar efficacy and probably zero side effects.
It has all the same side effects as statins.
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They say it is the ratio of LDL to HDL (or vice versa) that counts.
Triglycerides high means you are eating everything more than your body needs.

Yes perhaps you are right. Liver is converting and producing cholesterol because the body requires it.
In fact from what I read the high triglycerides is a bad omen (as I said it means that the food intake is much higher than what our bodies need)
Basically triglyceride = food that has been converted to fat.
This food can be anything ranging from proteins to starch to sugar to fat.


I cannot comment about anything that you are practicing but just wanted to know what is your height and weight numbers. I read somewhere that all these are perhaps symptoms of your body not liking the excess mass (fat or even muscles!).
Agreed, I tend to enjoy food at times. But I have been fairly clean on diet, more so when I am training consistently.

Have been off training since Feb owing to travel and work. Weigh about 93 kgs and fairly heavy-set musculature, BF% last checked was about 17%.

Have also realized my portion sizes used to be smaller till over a year earlier, with frequent meals throughout the day, upto 6 daily. But has changed to maybe 3-4 sit-down heavy meals a day.

Another bit is, again an assumption that dinner has started to be heavy and I hit the sack immediately after.

Used to train late evenings, so the memory/habit keeps me ravenous around that time. Thinking I will revert to mornings and maybe that should fix a few things, hopefully.

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Where do you get Ayurvedic CoQ10 and Omega-3?


It has all the same side effects as statins.
Here's a link I sourced from an eBay vendor for both products: http://www.unived.in/aboutus/products/

They are Mumbai based apparently and have solutions for both C0Q10 and Omega3.

I do not have any links or whatever with them, but found their products interesting.

Didn't know about Omega3 coming fish apart, and an excerpt from their site: "The general perception is that Omega-3 DHA comes from Fish oil. This is a myth. Fish get their Omega-3 DHA from micro-algae through their food chain.
Unived goes directly to the source, micro-algae, and that makes the oil we use vegetarian, pure, and free of ocean-borne contaminants. The Vegetarian Algal Oil we use is certified Halal & Kosher."

My friend in the US tried this product with Red Yeast Rice, and had a steep drop in total cholesterol levels: http://www.aisportsnutrition.com/mst...upport-27.html

He later moved to a Red Yeast Rice product rather than this combination, he had also dabbled in a few AAS cycles, recreationally though and did his own combination of this product's ingredients.

Found this online: http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...20(RED%20YEAST)

Says POSSIBLY SAFE, but also found it on: http://www.unived.in/aboutus/products/red-yeast-rice/

The site says it does NOT have the sides. Will give it a shot maybe.

Note to Mods:- Guess that's too many links in a post, of no commercial value to me though.
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Since the post is relevant to this thread also:
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/shifti...ml#post3510954 (Bodybuilding - Exercises and Supplements)

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08...iet.professor/
'Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.Haub's body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent'

The simple thing is he reduced the calorific intake.
But whatever calorific intake was mainly via junk.

"Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks. "
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This article which appeared last month in Washington Post reports about the news where consumers will be stopped being warned on dietary cholesterol in foods. So all the warnings received from the past 40 years stand null and void.
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