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Old 27th March 2014, 13:17   #301
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Disclaimer : Got as Forward on Whatsapp - One more conspiracy theory. This might be used as an actual script for a movie.
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Bit lengthy, worth reading 

When the Americans were withdrawing from the Afghanistan, one of their command and control system (used for controlling the pilotless drones) was hijacked by the Talebans when the American transport convoy was moving down from one of the hill top bases. The Talebans ambushed the convoy and killed 2 American Seal personnel, seized the equipment/weapons, including the command and control system which weighed about 20 tons and packed into 6 crates. This happened about a month ago in Feb 2014.

What the Talebans want is money. They want to sell the system to the Russian or the Chinese. The Russian is too busy in Ukraine. The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless. So the Chinese sent 8 top defense scientists to check the system and agreed to pay millions for it.

Sometime in early Mar 2014, the 8 scientists and the 6 crates made their way to Malaysia, thinking that it was the best covert way to avoid detection. The cargo was then kept in the Embassy under diplomatic protection. Meanwhile the American has engaged the assistance of Israeli intelligence, and together they are determined to intercept and recapture the cargo.

The Chinese calculated that it will be safe to transport it via civilian aircraft so as to avoid suspicion. After all the direct flight from KL to Beijing takes only 4 and half hours, and the American will not hijack or harm the civilian. So MH370 is the perfect carrier.

There are 5 American and Israeli agents onboard who are familiar with Boeing operation. The 2 "Iranians" with stolen passports could be among them.

When MH370 is about to leave the Malaysian air space and reporting to Vietnamese air control, one American AWAC jammed their signal, disabled the pilot control system and switched over to remote control mode. That was when the plane suddenly lost altitude momentarily.

How the AWAC can do it ? Remember 911 incident ? After the 911 incident, all Boeing aircraft (and possibly all Airbus) are installed with remote control system to counter terrorist hijacking. Since then all the Boeing could be remote controlled by ground control tower. The same remote control system used to control the pilotless spy aircraft and drones.

The 5 American/Israeli agents soon took over the plane, switched off the transponder and other communication system, changed course and flew westwards. They dare not fly east to Philippines or Guam because the whole South China Sea air space was covered by Chinese surveillance radar and satellite.

The Malaysian, Thai and Indian military radars actually detected the unidentified aircraft but did not react professionally.

The plane flew over North Sumatra, Anambas, South India and then landed at Maldives (some villagers saw the aircraft landing...check out on http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-0...pdated-summary), refuelled and continued its flight to Garcia Deigo, the American Air Base in the middle of Indian Ocean. The cargo and the black box were removed. The passengers were silenced via natural means, lack of oxygen. They believe only dead person will not talk. The MH370 with dead passengers were air borne again via remote control and crashed into South Indian Ocean, make it to believe that the plane eventually ran out of fuel and crashed, and blame the defiant captain and copilot.

The American has put up a good show. First diverting all the attention and search effort in the South China Sea while the plane made their way to Indian Ocean. Then they came out with some conflicting statement and evidence to confuse the world. The Australian is the co-actor.


The amount of effort put up by China, in terms of the number of search aircraft, ships and satellites, first the South China Sea, then the Malacca Straits and the Indian Ocean is unprecedented. This showed that the China is very concerned, not so much because of the many Chinese civilian passengers, but mainly the high value cargo and its 8 top defense scientists.

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Old 27th March 2014, 13:22   #302
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So I'm very cautious of airlines that pay their cockpit crew by the hour flown, rather then a fixed base salary. Because if you know you won't get paid unless you fly, what will that do to your "honest and frank" self assessment before each flight?
That's interesting and quite true. So how do you find out which airlines pay a base salary and which pay on hourly basis?
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What the Talebans want is money. They want to sell the system to the Russian or the Chinese.
China and Afghanistan share a land border.

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The Russian is too busy in Ukraine.
Because there is only one guy or team in Russia which can deal with this kind of stuff and they are busy.

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The Chinese are hungry for the system's technology. Just imagine if the Chinese master the technology behind the command and control system, all the American drones will become useless.
I write simple ERP programs.
Even that cannot be easily hijacked by someone just because they have the source code.
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One of the many reasons to avoid stuff like facebook and whats App.
And frankly, the guys who write these forwarded messages should try their luck at writing scripts for movies. Might work there and may not be that irritating. If they are so smart, let them prove it.
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That's interesting and quite true. So how do you find out which airlines pay a base salary and which pay on hourly basis?
I really don't know much how this works here in India. I just don't have the contacts or the knowledge.

In Europe and the USA you might find this sort of practices with the regional airlines and the low cost airlines.

Here is an actual job advertisement for pilot from an American regional carrier, You'll note paid per flight hour. Doesn't mention a guaranteed minimum amount of hours paid either.

http://www.americaneaglecareers.com/Jobs/Pilots.html

Ryanair, a low cost operator in Europe is another carrier with no minimum amount or base salary, only pay per hour flown.

http://www.pilotjobsnetwork.com/jobs/Ryanair

Ryan air has a somewhat different way of dealing with their pilots. See this article:

http://www.pilotcareercentre.com/Pil...+First+Officer

Just a quote from the above mentioned article:

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Most pilots are contract pilots for RYR meaning that you are effectively self-employed by your own company and contract yourself through another company to RYR – it’s simpler than it sounds. You therefore get to claim all expenses against your tax income keeping your net profit as high as possible and this begins with the cost of your Type Rating Course. Through out you will have expenses like hotels, car hire, food, rent, phone bills….any and all of these utilities can be claimed as an expense for ‘your business’ meaning that you end up retaining more of your monthly income than most people. This results in RYR offering one of the better salaries around keeping in mind that you have to fly to get paid – contract pilots only get paid by the hour which does not guarantee any money but you would have be in a bad situation not to fly with RYR as they are so busy. Winter is a different story but we’ll get onto that later.
So think through that arrangement in terms of what it will do for flight safety.

A couple of interesting articles on pilots wages and pay structures. Again, more US and Western based:

http://thetruthabouttheprofession.we...-salaries.html

http://skift.com/2013/08/28/the-u-s-...-minimum-wage/

Be interesting to hear from anybody who has some insights into how the Indian carriers deal with this topic.

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If US had to use AWAC, then Malaysian ATC and other traffic controllers might have noticed its presence. The cargo theory has been doing rounds for sometime. But AWAC sounds unreal.
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Another hope? Chinese patrol ship detects pulses in the Indian ocean?

http://english.cntv.cn/2014/04/05/AR...72195527.shtml
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This has been confirmed by the HMS Echo.

They have yet to confirm its from MH 370 tough.

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/04/07/wo...html?hpt=hp_t1
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Looks like the final resting place of MH370 will be found soon with the pings getting more prominent in the same area.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26972045
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Some interesting graphics to show how deep it is actually is - The depth of the problem
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Looks like the final resting place of MH370 will be found soon with the pings getting more prominent in the same area.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26972045
If this was true, then lack of any visible wreckage could have been because, the pilot would have directed the aircraft in nose down angle and not having deployed landing gear (obviously) the entire aircraft with it's mass, could have entered the water intact without any breakup. What happened next is the biggest mystery.

The Aircraft could have broken apart and all its wreckage could have sunk to the ocean floor instead of floating in water, this is again a theoretical possibility, Lighter items should have surfaced still. This also proves the aircraft did not break apart before hitting water.

In case of Air france 447 the belly of the aircraft touched first causing most of the breakup happening on the surface of the water followed by deep sinking. In this case its so shocking that this plane was possibly directed and made to dive with it's nose down first, could be in about 35-37 degrees angle of attack to the ground.

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I might have mentioned this link before, but I find this to be the most informative and factual overview you can find.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

Every now and then they update and you will find that new section highlighted in yellow. So today some more on how they will be conducting the underwater search.

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Thanks Jeroen. As exact location, debris, orange box ping has not yet been ascertained as on April 21st, the wrecked plane being in the bottom of the sea at that location is unlikely.

This crash seems to be much more challenging than the Air India 182 and Air France 447.

Maybe what we need here is a fresh perspective. The whole aviation industry is in a state of shock and people are loosing confidence on the integrity of the airline companies.
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I might have mentioned this link before, but I find this to be the most informative and factual overview you can find.

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

Every now and then they update and you will find that new section highlighted in yellow. So today some more on how they will be conducting the underwater search.

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Hey Jeroen, I have been following that link. Post 20th April, there hasn't been any update. I checked the news channels, but the last news was that they were sending automated seach vehciles under water to find debris. No one has yet reported what was the outcome. Do you have any leads ?
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Hey Jeroen, I have been following that link. Post 20th April, there hasn't been any update. I checked the news channels, but the last news was that they were sending automated seach vehciles under water to find debris. No one has yet reported what was the outcome. Do you have any leads ?

No, I've seen news report that they have searched close to 80% of the area with their sub, where they thought the pings had come from. It would take a week to search the whole area and that week is coming to an end.

This whole incident has not only disappeared from the front pages of most news channels, you will actually have to start to search in order to find anything. Sad, but thats how these things go. Very unfortunate that the recent disaster with the ferry sort of puts this one in the shadow so to speak. But then there is provably very little news until they actually find something.

Im not sure what they will do if they dont find anything in the designated sear area. Probably sort of back to square one, where else could it be.

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