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Old 15th July 2015, 19:08   #376
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Kindly see the sentence in the enclosed image marked by red color paranthesis. That being the case how can a plane nose dive at 90 deg.

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Where does it say it nose dived like a sack of potatoes?

"The tail of the Kazakh plane clipped the left wing of the Saudi jet, severing both parts from their respective planes"

Therefore the spiral down to the ground.

By the way, I remember this incident, my uncle was supposed to be on the flight, but he postponed his vacation by one more week just the day before!

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Where does it say it nose dived like a sack of potatoes?

"The tail of the Kazakh plane clipped the left wing of the Saudi jet, severing both parts from their respective planes"

Therefore the spiral down to the ground.

By the way, I remember this incident, my uncle was supposed to be on the flight, but he postponed his vacation by one more week just the day before!
What i want to convey is when a free falling plane disintegrates in mid air, how can the same nose dive at 90 deg to the surface. The gravitational force would be tremendously high for the plane to sustain.
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What i want to convey is when a free falling plane disintegrates in mid air, how can the same nose dive at 90 deg to the surface. The gravitational force would be tremendously high for the plane to sustain.
Technically speaking the gravitational force is more or less constant here on earth. Whether a plane is stationary or nose dives at mach 2 into the sea the force of gravity remains (near) constant.

Obviously, there are other forces on a plane that has been shot/hit and is in some sort of uncontrolled flight regime. As pointed out, depending on true air speed certain bits could just be ripped off due to what is in essence air resistance (drag). If the plane enter into a spin, the rotational forces can easily snap of control surfaces or whole wings/tails etc. There are many examples on commercial, private and military planes.

Even fairly standard 'recovery' manoeuvres, if not executed properly can lead to too much stress on parts of the plane.

Flying Magazine published a very good article on it recently.

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Looks like a aircraft wing was washed up on shore a island near Madagascar. Investigations are on to figure the plane it belongs to.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=32762044

Hope this gives closure to the case.

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Looks like a aircraft wing was washed up on shore a island near Madagascar. Investigations are on to figure the plane it belongs to.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ry?id=32762044

Hope this gives closure to the case.

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This could also be from Ethiopian Airlines Flight 961, which crashed around that area n 1996. Not all of the debris was recovered. It could also be from Yemenia Flight 626, which crashed into the Indian ocean in 2009. At this point, it's all speculation that it might be MH370 or even a B777.

Also interesting to note that BB670 is the aircraft zone identifier. 600 is the right wing, 670 is a subset that identifies the right wing trailing edge flap fairing. Both Airbus and Boeing use the same zone identifiers as outlined by the Air Transport Association. So the part can be from an Airbus or Boeing aircraft.
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If I go by the various comments and reference diagram shown on Prunne.org this could well be from a 777. Also, it appears as if it hasnt been in the water that long. If it turns out to be from MH370 I wonder what else they can deduce from it, other then they are searching roughly in the correct area.
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Just adding the link to my previous message:

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...on-island.html
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Another news article regarding the wing which washed ashore.
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It is expected to be a 777 piece, if so it is the MH plane. The Ethopian plane predates the 777 era.
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Some suitcases or bags were found on the beach too. Speculations can continue.
http://flightclub.jalopnik.com/repor...m-m-1721029202

On a sidenote: There was a rumor about this plane being shot down as it headed towards a US island Diego Garcia. Do check the location. It still could be a possibility.

On a sidenote just hope some closure comes to the families. Also the recovery of the blackbox would make air travel more safe in the future.

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One nasty question. How did the plane reach the East Coast of Africa? Must have been fueled somewhere!!
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One nasty question. How did the plane reach the East Coast of Africa? Must have been fueled somewhere!!
The plane is supposed to have crashed somewhere near the current search area and the debris are apparently taken that far by the ocean currents. I dont believe the plane itself would have flown that far. See the link below.

http://www.weather.com/news/news/ind...0-debris-plane

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The Malaysian PM has confirmed that the debris found on the French Island, Reunion does indeed belong to the MH370 Boeing 777 airliner that had mysteriously vanished over a year ago.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/0...181828064.html

While it saddens me to hear with concrete evidence that all 239 on board have died; I believe the families can finally find closure in the light of this new finding.
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One nasty question. How did the plane reach the East Coast of Africa? Must have been fueled somewhere!!
Apparently the 777 has the range to go so far.

This bit of news published during the time the aircraft went missing, and was rubbished by the US and its allies seems rather chilling now:

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015...n_7003406.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...lying-jet.html

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With news trickling in now and then on MH370, the latest disappearance was of the AN 32 Military Aircraft of the Indian Air Force which took off 11 days ago from Tambaram AB to Port Blair that went missing.

Today's news had a information of a loud explosion being heard in the dense forest in Andhra Pradesh by the locals on the same day the aircraft went missing, which lead to search teams to comb the forests apart from the sea.

Wonder if there is a Bermuda Triangle in the Bay of Bengal.

http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/india...issing-1434708

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/...issing-32.html
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