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Old 3rd March 2016, 14:05   #1
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Well, this is something all of us must have experienced before and it is bound to keep happening but I just had to pen down the lack of civic sense nowadays and get rid of it from my head !

1. People not waiting for other people to alight from the elevator and simply rushing in as if it is going to be the last one for the day.
2. Holding the elevator (by putting one hand or even a leg between the doors) for their colleagues who are strolling towards the lift while reading whatsapp.
3. Holding the elevator doors while speaking to a friend standing outside.
4. Standing in such a manner in the elevator that others are supposed to compress or zip themselves up (no pun).
5. Rushing in and out of elevators with no regards to people politely waiting.
6. Other miscellaneous stuff like keep pressing the elevator buttons for calling it despite it being already pressed, pressing a floor button when you have no intention of alighting, speaking loudly over the mobile and so on and so forth.

These experiences in a very respected IT company whose employees are supposed to have some basic courtesy and manners! And this is the list for only the elevator.

I mean have we completely given up on being civil to one another

The roads have already turned into a war zone. Incidentally read this on whatsapp yesterday - Driving is nowadays similar to fighting a war. Just like in a war you do not disclose your intentions to your enemy, similarly while driving, you do not disclose any intentions of turning left, turning right, stopping or starting and keep the other drivers guessing Very apt for Pune.

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One more. People continuing to attempt to squeeze in as if an Elevator has unlimited space. In spite of it being obviously full, some one will always try to squeeze in to that final tiny bit of space remaining. Prevalent in Malls where the people to floor to elevator ratio is very poor.
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Sad but true, and it's gotten to the point that I've stopped using elevators unless absolutely necessary.

Stairs keep me fit and away from the morons, but that unfortunately isn't fool-proof either. You can trust a bunch of 'educated' Indians (IT or otherwise) to stand at exactly the point of maximum inconvenience, walking 3-4 wide on staircases to chit-chat and raise a ruckus, or have their heads buried in their all-important cellphones while they walk into oncoming foot-traffic.

There are inconsiderate people all over the world (esp. cellphone zombies), but we Indians take the cake by a long mile. What's this 'civic sense and common decency' you speak about?

P.S. The worst ones in elevators are those who 'believe' generous dabs of cologne/perfumes/deodorant are the solution between weekly/monthly showers. Yuck!

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To add to the list

1) The people who think that the the elevator will automatically sense which floor they want to get off and don't bother to press the button and when they miss the floor start cursing

2) The ones who press both the up and down buttons irrespective of which way they want to go. Actually many so called educated ones don't know which one to press(strange as it may sound)

3) The ones who use their backpacks as a weapon to scratch and push everyone
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The one that irritates me most is when people are using stairs or walking in corridors talking to each other, they never want to leave any space for someone coming from the opposite side. You have to squeeze in between them. I have tried to walk straight into them sometimes !

Same in parks and countless places. Mostly they happen in IT companies with young people who have scant respect or even acknowledge others.
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I think, the culture needs to be set by the seniors in the organisation. Many times I have seen people trying to walk into the elevator while seriously talking on the phone, without even checking if people inside have exited. It all boils down to the courtesy we extend to our colleagues.

Another issue I have seen with people is that they press both the UP and Down requests while waiting for the lifts.
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Haha ... true that.

Another one: Having really loud conversations completely oblivious to everyone else around.
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To add to the list

2) The ones who press both the up and down buttons irrespective of which way they want to go. Actually many so called educated ones don't know which one to press(strange as it may sound)
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Another issue I have seen with people is that they press both the UP and Down requests while waiting for the lifts.
Actually this is one that I missed. I like to equate it to someone coming on the wrong side of the road e.g. just yesterday I parked my car on the -3 level and called for the lift to go to the 6th floor.

When the lift arrived, two people were in it and I thought that they would alight but no, they had pressed both buttons on the 1 level and rode down and again rode up with me till the 4th floor.
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Moderators : Request you to change the title of the thread to "General etiquette and manners" or something similar.

It is not just the case of elevator or staircase where people lack etiquette.

It is a general lack of sensitivity towards others and lack of common sense in public places. It is also the responsibility of the parents/teachers to teach children the proper behaviour in public places - assuming parents/teachers themselves know the proper etiquettes in the first place. It is not true that all seniors in organization are aware of the social graces - a villager / illiterate person sometimes exhibits better manners.

A couple of interesting links:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etiquette
http://www.wikihow.com/Practice-Good-Elevator-Etiquette
http://classroom.synonym.com/etiquet...tor-11931.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Driving_etiquette
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Here's the most annoying thing for me in the context of elevator manners.

People who would want to go the next floor below, with a cup of beverage in their hands and couple of others to chitchat, come in and waste our time. Compare this for a person who is descending from the 10th floor to G, to someone who calls for the elevator to descend from the 5th floor to the 4th, while they can very well continue their chit chat and take the stairs!

This even after the elevator clearly has signages saying 'No Food/Beverages'.
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One observation : I have seen the same people who fight their way into the elevator as if this is their last chance to glory behave very differently when they are at a place not familiar to them e.g. in a different country.

It is mostly when they are in their comfort zone do they behave in this manner.

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Other miscellaneous stuff like keep pressing the elevator buttons for calling it despite it being already pressed, pressing a floor button when you have no intention of alighting....

These experiences in a very respected IT company whose employees are supposed to have some basic courtesy and manners! And this is the list for only the elevator.

I mean have we completely given up on being civil to one another

The roads have already turned into a war zone. Incidentally read this on whatsapp yesterday - Driving is nowadays similar to fighting a war. Just like in a war you do not disclose your intentions to your enemy, similarly while driving, you do not disclose any intentions of turning left, turning right, stopping or starting and keep the other drivers guessing Very apt for Pune.
Hmmm.... that's quite a rant :-)

And, from the comments on traffic I guess you aren't a 'pucca puneri'!

As far as elevators go, the convenience of those going up rather than those coming down - atleast three to four floors?. What I find amazing is that people keep waiting for the lift, rather than climbing down (they would rather spend time waiting and being busy on the phones, rather than using the stairs). If 20 ~ 30 year olds - i.e. those who are busy creating better and superior means of doing business - are behaving like this, then what's going to happen in future??

BTW, how the heck will people will use the stairs, if (some of the newer buildings), the stairs are not even visible from the elevator lobby?

As far as your traffic experience in Pune goes, this should keep you entertained and abreast of the latest 'war' techniques -

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/street...ml#post3921277 (Pune : Roads, traffic conditions, route queries and other assorted rants.)
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How come the most prevalent mischief has been missed so far?
Chewing gum, gentlemen.

Always stuck below the rail bars, for stairs and inside the lift, which are supposed to be there to hold on to.

Of course you also have this spitting of red juices all around. No corner is spared.

Civic sense is not lacking, it is absent in its totality.

Those from Pune would know this - People sitting and chatting, some of them just keep spitting every 5 minutes. And no, they are not tobacco chewers. They just are in the habit of spitting, and do not bother to find a suitable place to spit (gutter, etc). They spit right there. When you throw an qustionable glance at them, they do it again !

Sadly, no amount of education can change such mentality.

EDIT: Such are the moments, which I see a few times daily, when I think about my decision of not taking up an opening abroad from my curent employer couple of years back.

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Generally speaking, we do not respect other people.

This is especially true when we deal with our own countrymen. The same set of people who spit/stand in the middle of elevator gates or talk loudly during an elevator ride would become perfectly educated gentlemen if there is a foreign delegate or trainer around.

It's all in the mind, actually. We show scant respect to fellow Indians and would fight for a place in an overloaded elevator. And, we would be the first ones to alight and offer our space to anybody who looks like a foreign origin person. We have still to get over the colonial mindset.

Our value education system needs to expand from imparting knowledge about 'Civic Rights' to doing more for the society. Rather than a society wherein everyone remembers his or her fundamental right, we need to convert to a society wherein people care about their fundamental duties towards other Indians and the society at large.

Funnily, I do not know how obsessed people have become with spitting !!! I mean, people just spit everywhere on the roads, elevators and stairs without thinking once about the risks they are exposing other people to. How in the world can we spit on the roads? Can't understand that the same set of guys won't spit once in Singapore because of the ticket and would happily go on spitting on Indian roads. Just amazes me about this.
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One teenager in our building had the fetish of urinating in the elevator just because he could & nobody could find out. Went on for months. Then one day he was caught red handed. Imagine how ashamed his parents are, living in a multi-crore 3BHK apartment.
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