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Old 9th November 2006, 11:59   #31
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The Police seems to getting tougher due the drunken driving behaviour of the late night party crowd. I feel this is well justified. You just cant drink all night and ramp into someone.
@ajo, agree with you on the drunken driving part. It is wrong. Period.

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Now that all the big, dangerous criminals have been locked up for their heinous crime of socialising, perhaps the authorities can focus on the smaller fry...like the pesky people who captured the polling booths and other such misdemeanours.
Valid point, boom. But when the ruling formation is supposedly behind the rigging, do we really expect any action to be taken ?

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Just wanted to find if there is anyone in this forum who don't mind in their daughters spending in bars late at night (let it be once in a month)
This being a mainly young forum, I am not sure we have enough members out here that have daughters old enough to go clubbing / pubbing.

I think it is a lifestyle choice that every person has a right to make. And when people are adults, there is only so much control that parents can have on them. Having said that, I am no pubber / clubber. I don't even frequent bars. I do like my weekly 3 pegs which I prefer to have at home, which is safer because it avoids any chance of drunken driving. However, I can also understand the choice made by people who like to socialise in bars / clubs which are institutions operating legally. And putting them in the cooler because the institution flouted the rules to make some more money, is IMO not justifiable.

Today's Deccan Chronicle has more details on the incident. It seems the police did not take all the patrons to the station. They screened the customers based on the dress they wore. So, while a girl dressed in salwar was allowed to go, her friend wearing a halter+skirt was detained. What logic in action here ?

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Old 9th November 2006, 12:39   #32
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Forget about the cops.

Just wanted to find if there is anyone in this forum who don't mind in their daughters spending in bars late at night (let it be once in a month)
If I had a daughter and she was an adult, I wouldn't have a problem and frankly it would be no one's business but her own, where she chooses to be late at night. That's the great thing about being an adult. Some people still have to learn about that.

If she was breaking the law, I would have a problem. But if it's just someone's conservative moral hangover, then I would tell them a convenient place where they can shove it.
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I am sure most of these kids were not there with parental permission anyway. So where's the question of communities/parents encouraging kids ?

If you noticed, I did clearly mention that the pubs that were open after specified hours were wrong in doing so. It was only the detention of the patrons that I found wrong.

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E_L, do you really believe that working youngsters today move around without even a single ID ? At any given point of time, I have 2-3 of them on me and atleast one in my car. I don't believe the crap that the police dole out.
BTW, would you carry an ID with you when you walk into an adult establishment & you were underaged ?

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BTW, even if we assume that some of them did not have an ID on them, since when is being seen in a hotel/bar without an ID a crime ?
Since the age for drinking was enacted, i suppose. So you do understand that if somebody who is educated & says he does not have an id, that means he is obviously lying.
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In the said incident, i believe girls who could not produce any ids in support of their age were detained by the police until their parents came to vouch for them.
E_L, I missed the age part (in bold above). My mistake. From what I read in the papers, the mention was just about IDs - no mention about IDs with age. Also, the onus of checking IDs is on the establishment. If they did not, they are at fault.

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BTW, would you carry an ID with you when you walk into an adult establishment & you were underaged ?
As you mentioned earlier in the thread, you do frequent bars, right ? Has anyone EVER asked you for an ID to check age like they do in the West ? A minor here can buy liquor or cigarettes without anyone asking an ID. So, why should it be different for bars ?

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Since the age for drinking was enacted, i suppose. So you do understand that if somebody who is educated & says he does not have an id, that means he is obviously lying.
There were some women in that group that are parents themselves. Do you think they also did not have an ID inspite of being educated / working and adults ?
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If I had a daughter and she was an adult, I wouldn't have a problem and frankly it would be no one's business but her own, where she chooses to be late at night. That's the great thing about being an adult. Some people still have to learn about that.

If she was breaking the law, I would have a problem. But if it's just someone's conservative moral hangover, then I would tell them a convenient place where they can shove it.
Well said! I only wish a greater number of people would adopt this mindset - would solve a lot of problems for everyone.

No offence meant to anyone here, but I think a lot of people in India have really not understood the full meaning of the word "Adult" yet. If you call yourself an adult that entitles you to certain inalienable rights (and it also carries an equal number of responsibilities). It is all very well to respect other people's wishes and so on, but a line needs to be drawn somewhere.

As long as you're within the purview of the law, how you choose to spend YOUR time and YOUR money is nobody's decision but your own. That said, if something goes wrong you have to be an adult and deal with the consequences of your actions - two sides of the same coin.
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Note from mod: Rash drunken driving and sitting at a Pub are totally unrelated. Please dont hijack the thread by posting irrelevant news
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Guys,
I hang-out every weekend with a couple of team-bhpians at pubs, although i dont drink at all. Im the "Transporter" of these BHPians once their done.
My observations:
1)Basically, a lot of this +1/+2 kids come to night-clubs, drink, get high and go all over the road with Papa's cars.
2)I've that 90% of the crowd coming to bars/pubs/clubs in chennai come with their own transportation.And drive/ride back home drunk.
3)Almost every saturday nite, the police go and personally shut every nightclub in town.And on this particular nite, the police just went one step higher.
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Not really sure where to post this, but is it really true that the shutters of every pub/disc goes down at 11.30pm, in Bangalore? How strict are the cops in enforcing this?
The reason I'd like to know more about this, is because I will be in B'lore starting next weekend, and I might check out some of the new pubs. Any thing to look out for, or be aware of..?
What happens,if patrons stick around till 11.30pm and the cops turn up. Are they penalized in any way?
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What happens,if patrons stick around till 11.30pm and the cops turn up. Are they penalized in any way?
I am not sure about B'lore. But if it is Chennai, you could look forward to a long night at the police station, as recent developments proved.

I would suggest you start partying early in the evening, do all the pub hopping and get to your home/hotel by closing time and carry on your partying there.
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go home early from night clubs / bars and party at home
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Forget about the cops.

Just wanted to find if there is anyone in this forum who don't mind in their daughters spending in bars late at night (let it be once in a month)
When I myself have done it, how can I have double standards.
Dont have kids, but no I would't mind as long as its the right atmosphere.

Cant assume that bars = bad place.
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I would suggest you start partying early in the evening, do all the pub hopping and get to your home/hotel by closing time and carry on your partying there.
Fully agree with you. That is what we do. Our (occasional) party normally starts not later than 7:00 PM and do not go beyond 9:30 PM.
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Dude that's not a party unless it's for senior citizens. Hell even my parents party later than that!
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I visited the Hotel Savera's sparks disco last april....what a shame...no entry for guys without gals?!?! my god....is chennai still in the cave men period...look at banglore and mubai...damn...the bouncer was really stuck up too...i showed him my passport (as i am not indian) and still was treated very badly.... very dissapointing
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Its still worse in b'lore .....
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