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Old 3rd January 2008, 00:09   #76
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first, that's taking civil liberties of a person away, rather than penalise the culprits. second, if you read, these people were coming out of the new year event from the hotel (I assume), and juhu in particular is really not known as a lion's den kinda place. Read danlalan's post below.
JW MARRIOTT had closed their gates to any cars entering the compound. So basically there were PArty go'ers standing(SINCE 9pm) at the gate of JW WAITING TO GO INSIDE. Iam sure this was on through out the night and specially after 1am after they finished partying.

They in all probabilities must have been walking to the pay n park near ramada and palm grove. That was the closest parking spot to the JW that night.

These CROWDS of ^%*& MEN were standing since 9PM (the time i left from JUHU) and staring at the women standing outside JW.

ITs REALLY SHOCKING to know no police arrived for 15MINS. Because that whole ROAD was FULL FULL FULL of cops. These cops were there on the road to see nothing went wrong. There must have been CLOSE TO A 150 COPS onn that road at that time. REALLY SHOCKING .
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So the CoP says this kind of thing happens always.
The police take 38 hours to file an FIR.
Another top cop says - why Santacruz police station, incident happened under Juhu police station jurisdiction.

I am speechless.

Has anyone seen the pics ? Almost everyone has right ? I guess the police hasn't.

And that pic is so shameful - with a smirk on the man's face (white shirt). And with these clear photographs - police still do not want to go into action ?

Shame on Mumbai and now Shame on Mumbai Cops.
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Another top cop says - why Santacruz police station, incident happened under Juhu police station jurisdiction.
This really takes the cake.. I hope the top cop who uttered this nonsense is transferred and given a jurisdiction in the middle of nowhere (preferably where there are no people).
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Does this mean, women have no rights at all to celebrate or be with their friends and family out at an odd hour like 1.45am..... why? who said so? why should women be the sufferers? why don't we make rules for everyone to follow. Women don't rape and gang rape men, then why do men have the right to do this to women? what are the cops & all of us doing? someone from us was also there, we can get together are stop such a shameful act to happen and ensure safety. Cant we come forward and help someone in need, tomorrow we might be in some need too? this is shameful and a ridiculous act.

action must and must be taken, to ensure NO such incidents in the future.

lets all come forward and work towards achieving this for our people.
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Does this mean, women have no rights at all to celebrate or be with their friends and family out at an odd hour like 1.45am..... why? who said so? why should women be the sufferers? why don't we make rules for everyone to follow. Women don't rape and gang rape men, then why do men have the right to do this to women? what are the cops & all of us doing? someone from us was also there, we can get together are stop such a shameful act to happen and ensure safety. Cant we come forward and help someone in need, tomorrow we might be in some need too? this is shameful and a ridiculous act.

action must and must be taken, to ensure NO such incidents in the future.

lets all come forward and work towards achieving this for our people.
You right. Women have every right to celebrate. but I think India as a whole is not ready for such advances. it would certainly be ready if not now in near future. it needs time. Any change needs time to settle. Till then they need to take extra care in dressing, selecting the time and place etc and ofcourse the crowd.

I am not sure if its right to point the whole responsibility on cops. i read that the photo was taken from a watch tower by a photographer. So, i guess i may not be visible from the road covered by mobs and too difficult to hear the sound due to the mods sound...

As our Dr. Abdul Kalam says, this can ONLY be corrected with good education system.

btw... This is not just only to Women. This thing happen to men too. may be the harassment will differ from above to looting, stabbing etc. So, what we do? Are we not careful in selecting the places & time when we want to go out?

Who knows how many guys was taken for ride during the celebration and lost their valuables...
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I actually have started to believe in the fact that Prostitution should be made legal in Mumbai or maybe all India so these perverts have other avenues. This might just reduce the rape cases a little and maybe even reduce HIV if the govt keep a check once things are legal.
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Posting a pic from the Hindustan Times site. Among the b*****ds who were involved in the act.



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Have you seen this molester? If yes, call our Mumbai office on 022-66539209, and we will forward the details to Mumbai Police for action.
I just hope these guys are taken to task.

If this wasnt enough, check this out.
Woman assaulted at Pune New Year bash- Hindustan Times

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Prostitution may or may not be legal, but surely it is freely available in just about every city in the world outside the totalitarian countries (and doubtless, even there for people who know where to go). I'm sure these Mumbai guys know where.

I have no moral objection to prostitution itself, entered into with free will, but very often it isn't --- it is forced upon girls, even by their parents.

Absolutely agree with comments about police. This is against civilisation itself.
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Two sons of railway minister Lalu Prasad got into trouble for allegedly heckling girls on the New Year's eve and were beaten up by unidentified youths in south Delhi.
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A case has been registered against unidentified persons for assaulting a police officer.
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Wow, they rightfully beat up these idiots and case is registered against them.
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Women should protect their modesty.
Alchohol is the root cause of many problems in the society. It should be banned.
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I actually have started to believe in the fact that Prostitution should be made legal in Mumbai or maybe all India so these perverts have other avenues. This might just reduce the rape cases a little and maybe even reduce HIV if the govt keep a check once things are legal.
Noone becomes prostitutes by choice. The society is responsible for it. We are fortunate enough to be well off and this practice should be rooted off.
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Women should protect their modesty.
Alchohol is the root cause of many problems in the society. It should be banned.
On the contrary, women should have complete freedom to wear what they want. Or are you suggesting that we ban them from appearing in public? As for banning alcohol, it's no secret that prohibition has been a utter failure wherever in the world it's been enforced, so that's no solution.
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While it took the Mumbai cops 2 days to file a case, the case in Kochi was cracked in 3 hours flat. I hope this efficiency wasn't shown because the victims were foreigners (i.e.) read that as fair skin.

We should forget about the safety of our women because the Mumbai comissioner says on national television that such small things happen all the time and could happen anywhere so the media should stop blowing things out of proportion. If I was a molester, I would be delighted to be living in Mumbai.

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While it took the Mumbai cops 2 days to file a case, the case in Kochi was cracked in 3 hours flat. I hope this efficiency wasn't shown because the victims were foreigners (i.e.) read that as fair skin.
Kerala derives a lot of income from the tourism industry. The image was built up over the years, and this one incident shouldnt be a blot on that image. That could be the reason.
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