Toyota Land Cruiser 2004 Worth? - Team-BHP

vishnugnair · 15th April 2004, 06:54

Got a offer for a land cruiser 2004. Top end . Diesel 4.7 L. Fully Loaded. Less Than 1000 km. on speedo. Japanese And Right Hand Drive ?
In Need A

price ... more like a quotation??
any Posts

S600BENZ · 15th April 2004, 13:20

Dude, you seem to have some wrong info I guess. The Diesel does not come in a 4.7L only 4.2L. What you must have been offered is the 2003 CYGNUS which is a 4.7L petrol and in 2003 came with the Tiptronic Gear Shift.The other option is that you could be offered a 2003 Amazon Landcruiser converted to the Lexus shpe by installing the new bonnet and headlights and tail lamps. If it is a genuine 2003 CYGNUS 4.7l the value of it is around 60L. Regarding the mileage it can be changed to anyhting u want at the change of a chip. So it is not necessarily a 1000km vehicle. I would highly doubt it is a 2004 as the vehicle would be very difficult to import. Please post the budget you are looking at to buy a vehicle and I might be able to help u.

v12 · 15th April 2004, 14:11

If u r plannin to buy a brand new LC, i suggest u to wait for some more time. I guess the facelifted LC will be out in 2-3 months. Its gonna have a more powerful petrol engine. And its gonna be called the LX500.

vishnugnair · 16th April 2004, 07:17

wait v12 isnt the lx 500 made by lexus. well i am looking at the land cruiser exactly. u r right s600 benz .... the engine options r messed up totally. anyways i am looking at a price range of 40-50 lakhs. what else do u think i ca get with that. x5 , range rover

?
dont want a prado ...tooo normal. so should i wait or what..???

S600BENZ · 16th April 2004, 11:10

Please inform me if you are looking at a Diesel or petrol option first. The X5 3L diesel strats at about 55 for a fresh import. The new Range Rover works out at about 65. In your budget the best option is a 2001 CYGNUS with 4.7 L V8 Petrol fresh import. The second choice is a 2001 Toyota Landcruiser 4.2L Diesel converted to the Lexus Shape with the twin headlamps and the bonnet and tail lamps. Both the above vehicles will work out in the 40-45 range. Japanese is the beat way to go as parts and service is very easily available. Waiing will not really get you anything hot as a new model in the international market whenever released will take at least 6-8 months to be imported into the country. So happy shopping. If you want to see any of the above cars in bombay drop me a PM and I can arrange them for you.

vishnugnair · 16th April 2004, 11:49

diesel man.. all the way....so range rover and x5 ca nbe ruled out of the book huh ?? anyways got any cars with low mileage. only suvs. and i think land cruisers have a better presence too... waddya think... how abt papers and what abt fresh imports.. how long will it take for a new one to be imported.??

v12 · 16th April 2004, 12:07

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]wait v12 isnt the lx 500 made by lexus.

The one made by Lexus is the LX470 and not the LX500. They do have the GX500 which is actually a Landcruiser Prado. Even the LS400 is gonna get a 5000cc V8 powerplant and i've heard that they are introducing the same powerplant in the LC [or LX].

v12 · 16th April 2004, 12:13

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Originally Posted by [b

Quote[/b] ]The second choice is a 2001 Toyota Landcruiser 4.2L Diesel converted to the Lexus Shape with the twin headlamps and the bonnet and tail lamps.

I've seen quite a few twin headlamps Lexus with the Toyota badge and Landcruiser stickers. So how do u come to know whether its a Toyota or a Lexus.
Will this be imported as a Toyota or a Lexus??? And what abt the badgings??? Lexus or Toyota??

If its a Lexus, it has to be imported from the US, right?? Lexus isnt sold in Japan, right???

Sorry S600 for askin so many ?s. Just curious.

toyota · 16th April 2004, 13:19

Lexus is not sold in japan
The 2004 model cannot have a Odo of 1000 K !
And it cannot be 4.7 and it is only 4.2 L
LC is not going to be launched in India as of now
Pardo you can see on the road this year end ,which is Petrol 4.7 5 speed auto

S600BENZ · 16th April 2004, 13:47

Simple rule of Thumb. Lexus only makes a petrol 4.7L V8 known as the LX 470. The same vehicle for the japanese market is called the Toyota Cygnus (since japan does not have the Lexus range). Both these vehicles come with the Twin Headlamps. What you usually get in India for the petrol version is the Japanese Cygnus with the Toyota badging removed and Lexus badging put. Some importers do not change the toyota badging and just add the LX 470 badge.
Next is the Diesel version. These are all Toyota Landcruisers with the 4.2L engine. They come with a single headlamp and even the tail lamps and bonnet is different. These cars are imported from Japan to Dubai and then converted to the "L PACKAGE" to give it the LEXUS look. That means the single headlamp is removed and the twin headlamps from the lexus are put and also the bonnet gets changed to accomadate the new twin headlamps and then the Lexus tail lamps are put in the rear. Usually all the badging is also changed from Toyota to the Lexus L. Here again some dealers do not remove the toyota badging. So you see the LX 470 badge at the rear with toyota badges all around. Thats the funda. If you have any more queries please put them up.

v12 · 16th April 2004, 13:53

So Toyota Cygnus = Lexus LX470. They both have the same engine.

And the Landcruisers here with the LX470 badges are not petrol but diesel LCs right??

S600BENZ · 16th April 2004, 13:56

Vishnu regarding you query abt the fresh imports. When I say fresh imports that means the car has already been imported to India within the last couple of months and that you will be the first owner. I know about 3 Landcruisers for sale.These are the 4.2L Diesel. All these cars have come into the country on Transfer of Residence and are not transferrable for 2 yrs. Duty has been fully paid and they have been imported according to the actual yr of manufacture. All 3 are in the 40-45 range according to the options. So if u are interested drop me a PM.

S600BENZ · 16th April 2004, 14:01

Yes V12 you have got it.The petrol ones are the 4.7L V8 Toyota Cygnus with the LX470 badge.
And the Diesel ones are the Toyota Landcruisers 4.2L converted to the L package and the LX470 badge.

aadix · 16th April 2004, 15:12

hey s600
can something like that be done to a diesel prado also?

ie make it look like a lexus?
how much would the conversion cost?

aadix · 16th April 2004, 15:16

heys600
soory for so many queries
but what will be the price diff between a modded landcrusier and a normal one???
how does one make out the difference?

15th April 2004, 14:11	#3 (permalink)
v12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,820 View My Garage	If u r plannin to buy a brand new LC, i suggest u to wait for some more time. I guess the facelifted LC will be out in 2-3 months. Its gonna have a more powerful petrol engine. And its gonna be called the LX500. __________________ Enfield Cafe Racer completed. Yamaha Cafe Racer started.

16th April 2004, 13:53	#11 (permalink)
v12 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,820 View My Garage	So Toyota Cygnus = Lexus LX470. They both have the same engine. And the Landcruisers here with the LX470 badges are not petrol but diesel LCs right?? __________________ Enfield Cafe Racer completed. Yamaha Cafe Racer started.

16th April 2004, 15:12	#14 (permalink)
aadix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: hyderabad Posts: 1,303	hey s600 can something like that be done to a diesel prado also? ie make it look like a lexus? how much would the conversion cost? __________________ "live to ride,ride to eliminate"

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aadix Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: hyderabad Posts: 1,303	heys600 soory for so many queries but what will be the price diff between a modded landcrusier and a normal one??? how does one make out the difference? __________________ "live to ride,ride to eliminate"

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15th April 2004, 06:54	#1 (permalink)
vishnugnair BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manipal Posts: 274	Got a offer for a land cruiser 2004. Top end . Diesel 4.7 L. Fully Loaded. Less Than 1000 km. on speedo. Japanese And Right Hand Drive ? In Need A price ... more like a quotation?? any Posts

15th April 2004, 13:20	#2 (permalink)
S600BENZ BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 299	Dude, you seem to have some wrong info I guess. The Diesel does not come in a 4.7L only 4.2L. What you must have been offered is the 2003 CYGNUS which is a 4.7L petrol and in 2003 came with the Tiptronic Gear Shift.The other option is that you could be offered a 2003 Amazon Landcruiser converted to the Lexus shpe by installing the new bonnet and headlights and tail lamps. If it is a genuine 2003 CYGNUS 4.7l the value of it is around 60L. Regarding the mileage it can be changed to anyhting u want at the change of a chip. So it is not necessarily a 1000km vehicle. I would highly doubt it is a 2004 as the vehicle would be very difficult to import. Please post the budget you are looking at to buy a vehicle and I might be able to help u.

16th April 2004, 07:17	#4 (permalink)
vishnugnair BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manipal Posts: 274	wait v12 isnt the lx 500 made by lexus. well i am looking at the land cruiser exactly. u r right s600 benz .... the engine options r messed up totally. anyways i am looking at a price range of 40-50 lakhs. what else do u think i ca get with that. x5 , range rover ? dont want a prado ...tooo normal. so should i wait or what..???

16th April 2004, 11:10	#5 (permalink)
S600BENZ BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 299	Please inform me if you are looking at a Diesel or petrol option first. The X5 3L diesel strats at about 55 for a fresh import. The new Range Rover works out at about 65. In your budget the best option is a 2001 CYGNUS with 4.7 L V8 Petrol fresh import. The second choice is a 2001 Toyota Landcruiser 4.2L Diesel converted to the Lexus Shape with the twin headlamps and the bonnet and tail lamps. Both the above vehicles will work out in the 40-45 range. Japanese is the beat way to go as parts and service is very easily available. Waiing will not really get you anything hot as a new model in the international market whenever released will take at least 6-8 months to be imported into the country. So happy shopping. If you want to see any of the above cars in bombay drop me a PM and I can arrange them for you.

16th April 2004, 11:49	#6 (permalink)
vishnugnair BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Manipal Posts: 274	diesel man.. all the way....so range rover and x5 ca nbe ruled out of the book huh ?? anyways got any cars with low mileage. only suvs. and i think land cruisers have a better presence too... waddya think... how abt papers and what abt fresh imports.. how long will it take for a new one to be imported.??

16th April 2004, 13:19	#9 (permalink)
toyota BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: bangalore Posts: 138	Lexus is not sold in japan The 2004 model cannot have a Odo of 1000 K ! And it cannot be 4.7 and it is only 4.2 L LC is not going to be launched in India as of now Pardo you can see on the road this year end ,which is Petrol 4.7 5 speed auto

16th April 2004, 13:47	#10 (permalink)
S600BENZ BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 299	Simple rule of Thumb. Lexus only makes a petrol 4.7L V8 known as the LX 470. The same vehicle for the japanese market is called the Toyota Cygnus (since japan does not have the Lexus range). Both these vehicles come with the Twin Headlamps. What you usually get in India for the petrol version is the Japanese Cygnus with the Toyota badging removed and Lexus badging put. Some importers do not change the toyota badging and just add the LX 470 badge. Next is the Diesel version. These are all Toyota Landcruisers with the 4.2L engine. They come with a single headlamp and even the tail lamps and bonnet is different. These cars are imported from Japan to Dubai and then converted to the "L PACKAGE" to give it the LEXUS look. That means the single headlamp is removed and the twin headlamps from the lexus are put and also the bonnet gets changed to accomadate the new twin headlamps and then the Lexus tail lamps are put in the rear. Usually all the badging is also changed from Toyota to the Lexus L. Here again some dealers do not remove the toyota badging. So you see the LX 470 badge at the rear with toyota badges all around. Thats the funda. If you have any more queries please put them up.

16th April 2004, 13:56	#12 (permalink)
S600BENZ BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 299	Vishnu regarding you query abt the fresh imports. When I say fresh imports that means the car has already been imported to India within the last couple of months and that you will be the first owner. I know about 3 Landcruisers for sale.These are the 4.2L Diesel. All these cars have come into the country on Transfer of Residence and are not transferrable for 2 yrs. Duty has been fully paid and they have been imported according to the actual yr of manufacture. All 3 are in the 40-45 range according to the options. So if u are interested drop me a PM.

16th April 2004, 14:01	#13 (permalink)
S600BENZ BHPian Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 299	Yes V12 you have got it.The petrol ones are the 4.7L V8 Toyota Cygnus with the LX470 badge. And the Diesel ones are the Toyota Landcruisers 4.2L converted to the L package and the LX470 badge.