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Old 5th July 2007, 21:59   #76
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First, I am not comparing the photographs, the Pulitzer winning photo is miles ahead.
I was talking about Journalism and ethics.
I know tsk ji, and that is what I said in my first sentence. Sorry if I was not clear.
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i see a lot of people commenting ... but comments come depending on which way the initial posts of that thread have gone ... !!! And why single out the Media for losing tehir morals ,,, what about the armed forces , what about the docs , what about the pharma companies , what about the farmers , what about the keeprs of holy places and the list goes on . So lets not get started about morals .. and ethics ... coz you want the ethics that existed a century ago , and which aint happening .
We are merely voicing our "opinion" on the media, becoz this thread is about the media.. more specifically about TOI and its alleged lack of journalistic ethics. I dont see why you have a problem with that.

Discussing other stuff like armed forces would be off-topic.. IMHO. Create a seperate thread if you need our "opinions" on those subjects.
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We are merely voicing our "opinion" on the media, becoz this thread is about the media.. more specifically about TOI and its alleged lack of journalistic ethics. I dont see why you have a problem with that.

Discussing other stuff like armed forces would be off-topic.. IMHO. Create a seperate thread if you need our "opinions" on those subjects.
And Im voicing mine ... and I dont see why you have a problem with that ???

As for starting another thread .. it aint needed , what Ive said is in context to this thread , or is it that you can't seem to connect what I said and what the thread is all about ??

Also Im sure you have reported this thread so if the Mods think its of topic .. they shall listen to you :-) !!!

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And why single out the Media for losing tehir morals ,,, what about the armed forces , what about the docs , what about the pharma companies , what about the farmers , what about the keeprs of holy places and the list goes on . So lets not get started about morals .. and ethics ... coz you want the ethics that existed a century ago , and which aint happening

Khaadu, there are laws governing all these professions except media. If a Army man, doctor, pharmacist indulge in unethical and immoral activities they would be punished by law. Abortion is a medical procedure but there is a law stating that it should not be done. Killing is a part of army's duty, but if innocents get killed, there will be repurcussions. A pharmacist cannot fill a wrong medicine, even by mistake. So you see, all these professions have some sort of law that governs them, media doesnt have any such thing. They publish any rubbish and call it freedom of press and that is my beef with these people. This freedom was given hoping that they would bring a positive change to the society, like the media that helped our independence cause. It was hoped that this freedom would not be misused. Unfortunately journalists these days sell this freedom to the highest bidder, ethics and morals be damned.
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Khaadu, there are laws governing all these professions except media. If a Army man, doctor, pharmacist indulge in unethical and immoral activities they would be punished by law. Abortion is a medical procedure but there is a law stating that it should not be done. Killing is a part of army's duty, but if innocents get killed, there will be repurcussions. A pharmacist cannot fill a wrong medicine, even by mistake. So you see, all these professions have some sort of law that governs them, media doesnt have any such thing. They publish any rubbish and call it freedom of press and that is my beef with these people. This freedom was given hoping that they would bring a positive change to the society, like the media that helped our independence cause. It was hoped that this freedom would not be misused. Unfortunately journalists these days sell this freedom to the highest bidder, ethics and morals be damned.
The point is that morals & ethics have flown out of the window in general ..... and thats the point here -- society has de generated and we can't single out any one medium coz its all of us that have to take the blame for it !!!
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And Im voicing mine ... and I dont see why you have a problem with that ???
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U were the one with problems about other people's comments - > "i see a lot of people commenting ... but comments come depending on which way the initial posts of that thread have gone ... !!! "

Also, I would like to state that I have no problems with ur opinions.. whether on-topic or off-topic.. Please go ahead.
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Who ever said it remains as a newspaper ... infact name me one newspaper in todays day and age !!
The Hindu
followed by Deccan Herald
Indian express to some extent
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Its statements like these that give me my daily dose of laughter .... !!
you must be leading a very happy life. good for you.
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Dude, I seriously wonder where on earth do you get such editions of the TOI .. I get 7 newspapers at my place every morning and I dont see any such thing.
dude ka dude.. paani ka paani.. i guess you don't live in a metro.. ask any of your metro friends. and is 7 your lucky number?
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Once in a year maybe -- you see them covering their own event , but then why shudn't they ??? Whats so shameless in that ....
even if it is not shameless in some cultures.. you see, i dont want to pay to read their promotions
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and the property paper was not alwyas thicker , was it ??? and do you get teh property paper every morning coz around here we get it once a week -- maybe the newspapaer walla is cheating me !!!!
it is a metro thing i guess.
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grow up man ..... and give some valid dates when you saw what you saw -- don't shoot of the hip into the dark .
i dont want to grow up.. 7 newspapers, 'valid dates', laughter doses.. too much to handle.
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Ajay, this is also a free country. So, if we dont like whats going on in our country, you would suggest we leave the country too, and not oppose the atrocities?
But it is childish on your part to compare this issue to larger issues that our country is facing. And yes, while I dont suggest anything, a lot of Indians did the same ("better opportunity" must be the word they used).

As far as opposing the atrocities is concerned, not sure when was the last time i or a good number of my fellow Indians or forum members did that.

Didn't someone once say- one mans art is another mans porn (or something to that effect). TOI may be a tabloid/ masala-newspaper/ yellow journalism to a few of us. But it may be a serious newspaper to a lot of others. Whats the defination of "News" anyways?

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I think the TOI is reflecting our current society perfectly with its name "Times of India".
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you must be leading a very happy life. good for you
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So you did realise ... I guess Im one of the lucky few who is leading a very very happy life .

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dude ka dude.. paani ka paani.. i guess you don't live in a metro.. ask any of your metro friends. and is 7 your lucky number?
aur metro ka metro .... seems you not good in guessing stuff !!! Both guesses wrong ... I do live in a metro ( when I choose to -- FYI , I have the best of both worlds ) - and 13 is my lucky number !!


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even if it is not shameless in some cultures.. you see, i dont want to pay to read their promotions
Do you have ppl holding a gun to yuor head every morning and making sure you buy the neswpaper . Or is that a metro thing again ?


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it is a metro thing i guess.
I really wonder what this metro thing is ... care to shed some light on it ?

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i dont want to grow up.. 7 newspapers, 'valid dates', laughter doses.. too much to handle.
So then again ... DON't grow up !!!

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I think the TOI is reflecting our current society perfectly with its name "Times of India".
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Note from mod: Lets stick to topic guys and not get personal. WE all have our opinions and so do others
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BBC NEWS | Americas | Pair 'face pizza bombing charges'

A pizza delivery man walked into a bank with a bomb tied around his neck and said he was being forced to rob. The police surrounded him after he got out and he told them that he has a timer bomb. He was sitting on the road with police cars surrounding him and all the cops pointing guns at him, he keeps saying that the bomb will go off and boom it really goes off and he dies.

All this was show on TV when it happened in 2003 and again yesterday with no warning message. There was no blood or anything but still its a chilling video. The man sitting on the road talking and suddenly a loud boom and his limp body falls to the ground. The only saving grace is that they didn't show the pic from close up which I am sure they have.
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