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Old 25th January 2008, 12:43   #421
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18th-century English was not the same as 21st-century English, so I guess we can't blame those clerks for that!

Unfortunately, the self-aggrandising and elitist motivation behind obscure language in official usage seems to have suited the Indian politicians and administrators that took over

Here's an English/Indian usage that still confuses me. "Even I..."

In English we would put, '...as well', or '...too'.

Take this conversation:

"I like cream cakes."

"Even I like cream cakes".

In India, this means, "I like cream cakes too". In England it means that someone who, perhaps, dislikes everything in the baker's shop, does like cream cakes.

I hate sport, but even I can enjoy watching snooker on the television.

This explanation may need a little polishing: Indian English has now got to my brain cells, and I find these explanations hard now!
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We just love verbosity don't we? I just overheard someone in the lift use "until and unless" in a sentence where "unless" by itself would have been perfectly adequate.
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I hate sport, but even I can enjoy watching snooker on the television.

This explanation may need a little polishing: Indian English has now got to my brain cells, and I find these explanations hard now!
Here, let me try.
I hate sports, but even I can enjoy seeing snooker on television, because even I am like that only!

There, that was quite simple, was it not?
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My wife will say, "See the new bird that has come to our garden!"

In England we would say, "Look at that bird! I haven't seen one like that here before".

All such things I not only accept, but come to employ the same usage myself. Only I drew the line, he other day, when she mentioned upgradation!
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We just love verbosity don't we? I just overheard someone in the lift use "until and unless" in a sentence where "unless" by itself would have been perfectly adequate.
What was the sentence for which "until and unless" was used ??
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All such things I not only accept, but come to employ the same usage myself. Only I drew the line, he other day, when she mentioned upgradation!
LOL, that's a very 'Indian' way of saying things! Replete with mistakes....
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"I like cream cakes."

"Even I like cream cakes".

In India, this means, "I like cream cakes too". In England it means that someone who, perhaps, dislikes everything in the baker's shop, does like cream cakes.
frankly, I have always heard and spoken it in correct sense as you mentioned. But it does make a difference whether the emphasis is given on 'I' or 'cream cakes'.

Do you agree?
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Only I drew the line, he other day, when she mentioned upgradation!
If she meant it in terms of upgrading to a newer/better car, why not humour her ? But if she was talking about the kitchen, well, you never heard her.
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She accepted the upgradualizationing from old Indica to new Civic quite happily.

Kitchens! Our new kitchen, mostly specified by me, has turned into a huge headache!

As for my mistakes: I think I'll get a new keyboard!!!
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Ram , Samurai, and amitoj thank you very much guys... now... how does one pronounce it??
This will give you a rough idea -- "Ray-pawn-day sil woo play"
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voo rather than woo, I think. I've never been able to get to grips with French language at all, even at school --- but I don't think they do "funny" things with Vs and Ws. That's the Germans!
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[R.S.V.P. A.S.A.P]...
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a good one vnabhi! this should be the acronym of the year!
A.S.A.P can pass as an acronym, as some people turn it into a word like azap. RSVP has to be spelt out, so it is an abbreviation, not an acronym.

The two combined?

Hmmm....
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She accepted the upgradualizationing from old Indica to new Civic quite happily.
That 'u' changes the word under discussion!
Are we now talking about 'gradually' having brought about an upgrade?

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Here is a very confusing word which seems to mean different things to different people: fulsome.

eg. fulsome meal, fulsome sleep, fulsome praise.

Can someone throw light on this please?
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It can be used in a negative and positive sense.

In one way (fulsome praise for example), it means abundant praise. for example, my first post in this thread recieved fulsome praise.

Fulsome meal again means a very good meal which is very satisfying.

In the negative way, it could mean insincere. But somehow, I found the negative usage of this word very rare. Generally, it is used in the positive context.
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