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Old 14th February 2008, 02:25   #601
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It's silent in damn, but not in damnation!

It is silent in both column and columnist.

It is not silent in columnar.
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It is silent in both column and columnist.
Nope. It's not silent in columnist, but then again, that word is an Americanism.
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A YetiGuide® : How To Post In Proper English

Shouldn't it be:

A YetiGuide® : How to post in proper English

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Binz, why is your p-p smaller?
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Binz, why is your p-p smaller?

Care to explain why in this day and age you still call it p-p.




Its punctuation.Specifically,upper/lower case.
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A YetiGuide® : How To Post In Proper English

Shouldn't it be:

A YetiGuide® : How to post in proper English
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Binz, why is your p-p smaller?
LOL, that is not fair! Moreover, it is slang.

As far as the above example is concerned, both are accepted formats.
There is yet another accepted way of writing the heading: How to Post in Proper English.

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I'm really not sure about "columnist" --- I'm sure British newspapers have them too. I just cannot recall ever having heard of a colum-nist!

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My SOED does not list the word.

My Concise OED lists it, but the pronunciation is not clearly given. If it differed from the root word, I would expect it to be clear.

My Illustrated OED lists it and gives the pronunciation as kol-um-ist (diacriticals excepted).

So looks like the 'n' is silent.

How To Post in Proper English? Capitalisation of headings is fine.

So I think we can be happy to stick with nice big P-Ps
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Thad E Ginathom : I just cannot recall ever having heard of a colum-nist!
Same here. But looks like it is correct either way. I checked dictionary.com for "Columnist", and here is the pronounciation key :

col·um·nist, or :
kol-uhm-nist, -uh-mist

columnist - Definitions from Dictionary.com
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dictionary.com agrees that it is an americanism, too.

Maybe this is how the USAians say it. I really don't think us Brits pronounce that 'n'.
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You guys have taken "columnist" to a different plane altogether. Rarely has the word received so much detailed attention.
Next word please.
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What about the usage of "native" when one means "hometown"? I've seen the word used very often on this forum, and it confused me at first. I soon figured it's short for "native place", which appears to be another popular Indianism. "Native place" may be acceptable, but "native" is best avoided. "I just returned to Delhi after visiting my native in Gujarat" sounds terrible, in addition to being ambiguous.
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Native, in that context is an adjective, not a noun, so one cannot visit 'one's native'

Native, adjective, means born in.

Native, noun, means one who was born in.

I am not native to Chennai; I was born in Warwick, England.

I am a native of the United Kingdom.

My native place is Indian usage.

Strangers often expect that I am a temporary visitor here. If they ask where I am from from I explain that I live (English usage) or stay (Indian usage) in Chennai, but my Mother Country or Native place is UK
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I am not native to Chennai; I was born in Warwick, England.
Thad, is this correct usage in the context?
I would imagine native to would be used for flora or fauna but not people.
I am not a native of Chennai sounds correct.
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I think either is fine, though I am willing to be corrected.

I am not a native of Chennai --- yes, this sounds more elegant, and more elegant is more likely to be right!

I may have reached the point where my immersion in Tamil English has disqualified me from giving authoritative answers on this thread!
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I may have reached the point where my immersion in Tamil English has disqualified me from giving authoritative answers on this thread!
There there, don't take it so seriously, Thad.
Immersion in Tamil English (hereafter referred to as Tanglish) may have reduced the authority but has certainly not disqualified you!
We look to you, Thad, to grant approval on issues like small p-ps and big P-Ps!
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