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Old 15th February 2008, 18:55   #616
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I just wish I wasn't such a duffer at learning tamil. At least the word order should not come as a surprise to me!

Here's an English word that interests me: gotten.

It is an English word, not an American invention, but has become lost to English usage, with only one exception, which is its use in the saying Ill-gotten gains. I don't know how to properly use this word, though.
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Is it "at least" or "atleast"?
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It is at least.




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Here's an English word that interests me: gotten.

It is an English word, not an American invention, but has become lost to English usage, with only one exception, which is its use in the saying Ill-gotten gains.
I never looked upon gotten as a British-English word.

1. gotten\got"ten\ , p. p. of get.
2. p. p. of Get.
3. Gotten is the past participle of get in American English. see also: ill-gotten gains. the past participle of get ill-gotten gains US/UK DIFFERENCE In American English, gotten is the usual past participle of get : | | gotten is not used as the past participle for got to meaning 'must'. Speakers of American English say had to rather than had got to : In British English, gotten is not used. The past participle of get in British English is got :.
From this website: gotten dictionary translation gotten sözlük çevirisi gotten definition of gotten on seslisozluk.com gotten get

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I don't know how to properly use this word, though.
Perhaps the reason is that it was never taught to you as a valid word.
Take heart!

Also, it is surprising how many p-ps are making an appearance of late!

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found myself confused, googled, and this is what I found.

Incidence/incident/instance
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found myself confused, googled, and this is what I found.

Incidence/incident/instance
The correct use of these words is not exactly a revelation; could you please clarify what surprised/excited you?

Perhaps this?:
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The correct use of these words is not exactly a revelation; could you please clarify what surprised/excited you?

Perhaps this?:
I couldn't figure out the correct word to be used in a particular situation, hence this exercise. posting here was only for the benefit of others.
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There was an incident on the road this morning. It was caused by yet another instance of bad driving; the incidence of these events is on the rise.

--- off the top of my head.

incident; something happened

instance ; things are always happening, this was one such happening.

incidence; frequency of things happening.
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incident; something happened

instance ; things are always happening, this was one such happening.

incidence; frequency of things happening.
Splendid!
It has gotten through to me very well and I shall never misuse these words!
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gotten is a strange word: common in USA English, but long-forgotten in UK English, except when we quote the saying, Ill-gotten gains.
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gotten is a strange word: common in USA English, but long-forgotten in UK English, except when we quote the saying, Ill-gotten gains.
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It has gotten through to me very well and I shall never misuse these words!
Sir! The use of the word 'misuse' in the above sentence also merits comment.

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Another word that bugged me for a long time was [sic]

Sic is a Latin word meaning "thus", "so", "as such", or "just as that". In writing, it is placed within square brackets and usually italicized—[sic]—to indicate that an incorrect or unusual spelling, phrase, punctuation, and/or other preceding quoted material has been reproduced verbatim from the quoted original and is not a transcription error.
It had a long vowel in Latin (sīc), meaning that it was pronounced like the English word "seek"; however, it is normally anglicised to /'sɪk/ (like the English word, "sick").

The word sic may be used either to show that an uncommon or archaic usage is reported faithfully: for instance, quoting the U.S. Constitution:
The House of Representatives shall chuse [sic] their Speaker... or to highlight an error, sometimes for the purpose of ridicule or irony, as in these examples:
Warehouse has been around for 30 years and has 263 stores, suggesting a large fan base. The chain sums up its appeal thus: “styley [sic], confident, sexy, glamorous, edgy, clean and individual, with it's [sic] finger on the fashion pulse.”[2] It is also sometimes used for comic effect:
The Daily Mail was the first newspaper [sic] …
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I may have reached the point where my immersion in Tamil English has disqualified me from giving authoritative answers on this thread!
Berther, don't become tension. Take the first cutting, go to the nearest shop and ask for a water packet with good cooling. Take a puffs (veg / egg is your choice). If you need help, ask your co-brother!

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I am shocked to see the number of members on this forum who spell 'brakes' as 'breaks'.
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I have always pronounced sic as sick!

It may be a generation thing, but I don't recall having heard it pronounced seek.

Of course, as it tends to occur in written or printed work, one doesn't often hear it at all!
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