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Old 26th April 2010, 07:32   #31
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Please watch the movie 3 Idiots once again if you have missed the point.
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Please watch the movie 3 Idiots once again if you have missed the point.
Yes I have watched the movie and its not like im missing the point depicted in it.
Its that I have to make a descesion and im not under anyones pressure thats why I want your guidance.

I forgot to add in my last post that if I do mechanical engineering then later on I would like to specialise in things relating to cars.I have been in love with cars ever since I was a child.
So am I right in saying that if I do opt for engineering then I should do mechanical first or should I opt for some other field in it to make specialisation in the field of cars easier?
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Firstly, to hell with 3 idiots or anything else. Go for whatever you enjoy the most - listen to your internal voice.

Secondly, can tell you from a friend's case that CPL is bloody expensive and the market for pilots is not as lucrative as 3 years back. He's spending some 24 L at Indira Gandhi Uran academy (if I recall right), and is soon graduating into an uncertain market. So more than your liking - unfortunately, your parental finance capabilities would count too!
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At the age that you are in, I'd say, just follow your heart. However, to balance things with respect to the realities of life, a Commercial Pilot's career and a Corporate Law career has a lot more potential in terms of future income than a Mechanical Engineering (Exceptions are always there though!).
Look at it this way:
Commercial Pilot or Corporate Law - You might get to own most of the automobiles you dream of.
Mechanical Engineer - You would understand automobile internals better and may even design something yourself, but you may never be able to own too many of them...

Hope that helps the decision!
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Hmmm I as of now have three seperate fields to opt from.
1)Mechanical engineering
2)Corporate law
3)Commercial pilot.

mechanical engg----you can go anywhere after engg graduation , either in service sector or manufacturing. this is no end field.


corporate law---as it is your family profession, your survival is almost sure.


commercial pilot-----though the field is lucrative in terms of money and fame, you are completely dependent for service on mood of aviation industry unless you start your own commercial airline. this is high risk area.

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, can tell you from a friend's case that CPL is bloody expensive and the market for pilots is not as lucrative as 3 years back. He's spending some 24 L at Indira Gandhi Uran academy (if I recall right),
Here in 12mati, Carver aviation academy offers 240 hour pilot training for less than rs 1o L. [ Carver is one of the best aviation academy in India].

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Mechanical engineer: Love for cars is not a sufficient reason for taking up mech. You would spend more time learning about thermodynamics and fluid mechanics than about cars. And when you do, it would be more math than cars. Been there seen that. Moreover, unless you get into a very good college AND manage to be in top quarter of you class, it is next to impossible to get close to R&D. Most of the others land up taking software jobs. You have to be 100% passionate about engineering to go down this path.

Corp. Lawyer: You have access to first hand info about the life and work of a lawyer. Ask your father/cousins all the questions you can think of, bug them and get a clear picture of what it means to be lawyer. If you like what you hear, go for it.

Pilot: I think this is the most uncertain of the careers. From you posts, I get a feeling that you are more attracted to glamour than the job. Think hard and make sure it is not just an infatuation. Lastly, don't do it to be "different" - that reasoning is plain foolish.
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Pilot training can be had at cheaper rates abroad. I am a qualified PPL holder (Private Pilot). However if you are looking at CPL or ATPL then it can become very expensive at 20+ lacs and may take years of toil to recover the money in the current market. Currently in US and probably in EU there are thousands of CPL holders without job. Check out the market conditions in online forums such as airlinepilotforums.com or pprune.org
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Join the Airforce. You cant go wrong there.
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I have heard that commercial pilots have another kind of career risk. If you end up having any kind of heart trouble, your career has officially ended.
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Firstly, to hell with 3 idiots or anything else. Go for whatever you enjoy the most - listen to your internal voice.

Secondly, can tell you from a friend's case that CPL is bloody expensive and the market for pilots is not as lucrative as 3 years back. He's spending some 24 L at Indira Gandhi Uran academy (if I recall right), and is soon graduating into an uncertain market. So more than your liking - unfortunately, your parental finance capabilities would count too!
Yes its true.I do have to listen to my inner voice.
And well your friend is very lucky to do his aviation course from IGRUA thats the best in the country.The thing is that after getting your Commercial Pilot License from there there is certain job security.And hmmm it will be costing him close to 28 lacks not 24.!!
My parents are ready to spend about 30 lacks on my education but the thing is that what if after spending that kind of money if i dont get a job then what.??!!??And thats a really big gamble.


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At the age that you are in, I'd say, just follow your heart. However, to balance things with respect to the realities of life, a Commercial Pilot's career and a Corporate Law career has a lot more potential in terms of future income than a Mechanical Engineering (Exceptions are always there though!).
Look at it this way:
Commercial Pilot or Corporate Law - You might get to own most of the automobiles you dream of.
Mechanical Engineer - You would understand automobile internals better and may even design something yourself, but you may never be able to own too many of them...

Hope that helps the decision!
Its true and you have rightly pointed out that one has to be realistic as well..And thats what is stopping me from going into the field of flying.But what i do wanna ask is that when would this saturation actually get over

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mechanical engg----you can go anywhere after engg graduation , either in service sector or manufacturing. this is no end field.
corporate law---as it is your family profession, your survival is almost sure.
commercial pilot-----though the field is lucrative in terms of money and fame, you are completely dependent for service on mood of aviation industry unless you start your own commercial airline. this is high risk area.
Here in 12mati, Carver aviation academy offers 240 hour pilot training for less than rs 1o L. [ Carver is one of the best aviation academy in India].
This is actually whats confusing me......All the fields are superb and there is no end limit.

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Mechanical engineer: Love for cars is not a sufficient reason for taking up mech. You would spend more time learning about thermodynamics and fluid mechanics than about cars. And when you do, it would be more math than cars. Been there seen that. Moreover, unless you get into a very good college AND manage to be in top quarter of you class, it is next to impossible to get close to R&D. Most of the others land up taking software jobs. You have to be 100% passionate about engineering to go down this path.


Corp. Lawyer: You have access to first hand info about the life and work of a lawyer. Ask your father/cousins all the questions you can think of, bug them and get a clear picture of what it means to be lawyer. If you like what you hear, go for it.

Pilot: I think this is the most uncertain of the careers. From you posts, I get a feeling that you are more attracted to glamour than the job. Think hard and make sure it is not just an infatuation. Lastly, don't do it to be "different" - that reasoning is plain foolish.
I absolutely couldn agree more with you.
Thats the reason i am not able to convince my self enough to do mechanical engineering.
As far as law goes my father is actually a bureaucrat yes he has done law but he has not practised it.Although my cousins and my grandfather were professional lawyers.And i have taken a lot of advice from them as well.
And yes i am attracted towards the glamor associated with commercial flying and its true that reason was a bit foolish

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Pilot training can be had at cheaper rates abroad. I am a qualified PPL holder (Private Pilot). However if you are looking at CPL or ATPL then it can become very expensive at 20+ lacs and may take years of toil to recover the money in the current market. Currently in US and probably in EU there are thousands of CPL holders without job. Check out the market conditions in online forums such as airlinepilotforums.com or pprune.org
Hmmm yes thats what the slum in the market is making me think twice.My parents dont mind spending that much on my education .But there is no job gurante after doing this course.

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Join the Airforce. You cant go wrong there.
I actually to be honest dont have an inclination towards the armed forces.
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I can help a bit here.

If you love cars, go with mechanical engineering. This will give you a greater chance to branch into the field of automobiles and would serve you well in testing, validation and R&D.

Don't have a clue about corporate law.

As far as the pilot's license goes. It is a tough road with lot of expenses and little chances of being able to recover the initial costs. Airline industry isn't in the best of health right now, so jobs are few and far between.

Training is constant and almost a never ending process, medical fitness is a must and tests are stringent. But if you have it in you, go for it. It is a very rewarding job...but to get to that job you have to slog a lot. This means you might have to fly little aircraft like the C152, C172 to build your flight time. Most people aim for the jets and smaller planes aren't considered glamourous by most folks.

But you have to start small especially in current market conditions and transitioning to a jet could take years. I'd say you're probably better off with the mech degree.

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I have heard that commercial pilots have another kind of career risk. If you end up having any kind of heart trouble, your career has officially ended.
!!!!!!!! thats aeason big enough to waver me away from this field.:(
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I can help a bit here.

If you love cars, go with mechanical engineering. This will give you a greater chance to branch into the field of automobiles and would serve you well in testing, validation and R&D.
Don't have a clue about corporate law.
As far as the pilot's license goes. It is a tough road with lot of expenses and little chances of being able to recover the initial costs. Airline industry isn't in the best of health right now, so jobs are few and far between.
Training is constant and almost a never ending process, medical fitness is a must and tests are stringent. But if you have it in you, go for it. It is a very rewarding job...but to get to that job you have to slog a lot. This means you might have to fly little aircraft like the C152, C172 to build your flight time. Most people aim for the jets and smaller planes aren't considered glamourous by most folks.
But you have to start small especially in current market conditions and transitioning to a jet could take years. I'd say you're probably better off with the mech degree.

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Thats the reason why i was attracted towards mech.engg in the first place.But as it was rightly pointed out in the last couple of posts that it would mostly deel with maths and physics and my love for cars wont actually come into play.
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Its true and you have rightly pointed out that one has to be realistic as well..And thats what is stopping me from going into the field of flying.But what i do wanna ask is that when would this saturation actually get over
I don't see the saturation ending, at least not in the way you hope it would. If anything my economics understanding tells me that Commercial Airline Pilot is not going to remain as paying a job as it used to be up to a few years back. The reason is that the Demand Supply Gap in this skills space has closed down and we actually have a negative demand situation now. Even if the demand goes positive, the gap between the demand and supply curves will be very little, hence there would be no motivation for employers to pay heavy salaries. Got the picture?
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Ofcourse Mech will help you in the automotive world. If you look at the jobs for these companies, most of them want a mechanical or auto engg. background.

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See whats more important to you. Passion in a field or being successful in monetary terms.
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