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Old 2nd April 2008, 12:01   #61
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In India its the opposite
Drive on wrong side of road, drive drunk, jump a red light no fine no jail. In Noida the police the do not have breath analyzers and there is very little policing at red lights.
By catching one guy, asking him to furnish a bail bond, and at the same time ignoring dangerous offenses.

Do a wheelie and you go to Jail??
Driving drunk, jumping a red light or driving on the wrong side of the road will definitely get you into trouble in Mumbai.

teambhp members have been pulled over for upgraded exhausts, lights and other upgrades. While it may be really annoying you cant deny the fact that they are just doing their job.

I have been caught for being in the wrong lane, changing lanes over a solid line,breaking red lights and my breath has been checked on many occasions.

Members on team bhp have been pulled over for upgraded exhausts, lights and other upgrades. While it may really annoy us you cant deny that the cops are trying their best.

Even trucks that are overloaded are pulled over. The fact that they usually pay a little something to the cop and get away is a different matter. In fact a lot of tempos are pulled over for having more than 3 people in the cab.

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Old 2nd April 2008, 20:15   #62
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Reading page 4 of this thread leaves me "eh??!!!???"

Guys, the wheelie man has not been punished. As per my understanding of the report, he has not been sent to jail. He was arrested, and immediately released on bail. Bail is nothing but an agreement with the court that you will cough up the amount specified (in this case, Rs. 10,000/-) if you do not appear on the date specified in the bond.

This bond is taken from EVERYBODY who is accused in a criminal case. Only, we do not frequently realise that we have just signed a bond.

(example situation - a vehicle you drive has an accident, and the police takes you to the police station. You are asked to ssign some papers and told that you will get summons from court and you will appear in court. The papers you signed are bail bonds).

Punishment will be decided by the court later. AFAICT, going by my experience with the system, the police would not even have completed their "investigation" as of today - while I am writing this. But then, my experience is limited with Kerala police. There is no reason for the NOIDA police to be different, but still...


Yup, he is has to face a long fight in court, if the police decides to prosecute him.

PS:- How many of you criticising the police here will contribute Rs. 100/- to a fund to defend the guy?
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Jessica lal was a murder case, and Manu sharma did not get a punishment harsher than he deserved.
But it was harsher than what numerous other powerful people got, isn't it? Manu Sharma's father has a valid grievance... all other MP kids who committed murder walked free whereas his son is languishing in jail. But we the common man thought 'this is good, we need to start somewhere'. Why not use the same logic is the bikers case*. Why not say 'Good job Noida police, now do something about the other reckless drivers as well' instead of saying 'Eliminate all other road offenses first before you can touch an illegal wheelie'


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Do a wheelie and you go to Jail??

I agree with you that the punishment doesn't seem commensurate with crime part, but then I do not know what is the maximum punishment for reckless driving. Doing a wheelie may sound harmless to you and me, but law may look at things differently.

* When you look at this arrest, keep in mind the menace that was caused by Bikers in the recent past. People cannot differentiate between a safe wheelie and an unsafe one. A safe rider from a rider with a criminal bent of mind. Rash driving from orchestrated stunts.

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Is it a traffic offense, or a criminal one ?
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Just to let you know that I am the only Xbhpian from bangalore ( and amongst close to 36,000 plus xbhpians all over india)who featured on the website of Xbhp as the FACE OF XBHP.

So when I make a strong statement like that, I know what I am talking about.

Sunny would not encourage anything which will

1. Cause danger to the life of his fellow member ( proper riding gear is a must on any of the official weekend xbhp g2g's, stunts is a different thing altogehter.)

2. Cause panic and distress to the society

Sunny uses extreme caution and always has the law on his side when he is organising a XBHP SPONSORED event.

I hope this clarifies what I ment from my initial post.

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that's a strong statement. do you know the current strength of XBHP?

and whatever the extent of precaution and preparation may be, wheeling on a public road can NOT be justified. neither for personal pleasure, nor for announcing to the world.

I think the best for XBHP would be to issue an official apology and refrain from doing such stunts.

@mail4ajo, authorities will never give such permission unless they have a pilot car in front and back, ambulance etc with them, and I do not expect taxpayers to pay for that.

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I don't care what either party has to say coz it just gets more n more confusing.

Just need a straight forward answer to these question :

1. Did Sunny take permission for his stunt?
2. If yes, then was the stunt performed under the supervision of the traffic cops/officials?
3. Was there an ambulance at hand?
4. Was he really arrested?
5. If yes, then on what grounds?

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Well Sunny may deny it all along that this stunt wasnt a part of the publicity excercize, the fact is, it INDEED is. Go to the XBHP thread link posted earlier somewhere and see the picture of the stunter pouring Castrol Power 1 in the bike. The caption reads "Pouring Castrol Power 1 into the bike for the attempt" with stunter in question merrily posing with a Castrol Power 1 bottle in his hand smiling towards the camera.
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Just to let you know that I am the only Xbhpian from bangalore ( and amongst close to 36,000 plus xbhpians all over india)who featured on the website of Xbhp as the FACE OF XBHP.

So when I make a strong statement like that, I know what I am talking about.

Sunny would not encourage anything which will

1. Cause danger to the life of his fellow member ( proper riding gear is a must on any of the official weekend xbhp g2g's, stunts is a different thing altogehter.)

2. Cause panic and distress to the society

Sunny uses extreme caution and always has the law on his side when he is organising a XBHP SPONSORED event.

I hope this clarifies what I ment from my initial post.

Cheers,
Shrey

obviously you did not understand what I said, i will try to explain it again anyway.

here is what you said

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Totally agree with Sunny's statments, none of the xbhpian's go stuntin like mad on the streets without precautions.
36000+ members can not be policed by what Sunny encourages or how sunny organizes his events. claiming that "NONE" of them go stunting like mad IS a strong statement.


and just because you appear as the face of XBHP, does not mean 36000+ members can be defended by your statement regardless of what they do. unless you claim to know each of them personally and know that they never stunt like mad. Do you?
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Just to let you know that I am the only Xbhpian from bangalore ( and amongst close to 36,000 plus xbhpians all over india)who featured on the website of Xbhp as the FACE OF XBHP.

So when I make a strong statement like that, I know what I am talking about.

Sunny would not encourage anything which will
I am a member of an online Jihadi forum with 100,000 members on which Osama-Bin-Laden is also a member. I was the only member from Timbuktoo who was featured on the website as a "Jihadi of the year". So when I make a strong statement like Osama is the most peace loving person on this earth and has never killed a man or even entertained the thought, I know what I am talking about.

I wish George Bush takes my word as the supreme truth and stops trying to kill him. He should instead nominate OBL for Nobel Peace Prize.
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ROFLMAO Mayavi, that was hilarious!!
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I wish George Bush takes my word as the supreme truth and stops trying to kill him. He should instead nominate OBL for Nobel Peace Prize.
I like this mayavi, you destressed me...

Guys lets lay this to rest, the biker has not followed what he was supposed to and has been given the required medicine.

Xbhp has made a strong statement that they have no control on. Hope they and other forums avoid this in the future.
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@Mayavi: You da man!
@Ajo: The only person who can completely credibly speak for xbhp is sunny. But anyways, they have done their own media management. Its quite an inspiration for any aspiring forum master.

@Shan2Nu: Sensible koshuns, here are the answers:
1. AFAIK/posted, No
2. NA
3. No. More out of experience than planning like a event
4. The attempter, Gurpreet was arrested and released on bail of 10000.
5. Specific details not posted, but traffic offence only in my understanding.

@zenx: Well said. It is a traffic offence, not a criminal one. That being said, govt does have the prerogative for a fine/imprisionment under sec 184 MV act. Its just the interpretation. All courtesy the fools at aajtak

Gents, please stop behaving like a biker on one wheel will make traffic turn into chaos. If any of you are so paranoid, do drop down to an xbhp g2g and watch sky in action. Most of us bikers are typically much more rash on two wheels
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