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|8th April 2008, 18:53||#47|
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I however find Fifth gear a lot more fun to watch since, the focus is always on cars and they go to great depths to bring out the facts.
Top Gear is more Jeremy centric. He could declare an car bad just because the built-in radio refused to tune into a particular station!
|8th April 2008, 19:23||#48|
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The production quality obviously has a long way to go, and given that many enthusiasts here are used watching to TG and 5G regularly - and inadvertently end up comparing an Indian show with them isn't wrong either. But we have started more than two decades behind Top Gear and
6 years behind 5G (who had experienced TG presenters on the team). I repeat again the these shows are benchmarks, production-quality wise only. If someone has been watching Fifth Gear since its inception, one can clearly notice how their production quality improved since its pilot season.
Imitating Clarkson, Hammond and May isn't even the last thing on our mind here, which is shown by the fact that none of the presenters talked any irrelevant gibberish which the British trio does- which is arguably funny but not informative and given the fact that we don't have luxury of running time over 60 minutes (excluding ads).
And as far as the Selector (Q&A section) is concerned, we do it to answer the queries we get from the audience, given our large reader base, that is yet unaware of an automotive forum like this. It maybe just that they find a journalist in flesh more credible than an advisory post on an automotive forum. Of course, no offence to any bhpians meant.
@nitrous: Please post your reviews without being concerned with the fact that it will put in an "OD hater" light or something. As long as your brickbats is constructive it is welcome.
|8th April 2008, 21:16||#49|
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Hey, its been a loong time since i read one of your mags, but i used to do that regularly fo the first few years, but then stopped as i personally didn't like it much.Everything seemed to revolve around your 'bossman' or some guy then!! Will give this months issue a try. All the best for ypur show too. Looking forward to seeing it tomorrow.
|8th April 2008, 22:19||#50|
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I caught the show today, it was good for a first time production by the team. The trak test was a little off, I know it was raining and the track was damp...but it could have been a little more classy. And you guys have to work on your talking skills...as for shreen , guys I know she is a good Journalist , but not for a car show, " back ache in 2 hrs of driving an S80......" come on guys.....what is a person who has not ridden a Kynee, doing there...
|9th April 2008, 12:09||#51|
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I finally got to watch the show last evening.
My comments are as follows :
* The 'What Car' section is a bore, and frankly i didnt really seem to concur with some of the views there, but i leave it as a matter of opinion.
* As someone has already mentioned earlier, please ask Shereen not to sit on the cars while asking questions. Chairs are meant for sitting on, not on the cars.
* Is it possible to increase the time duration for the show to an hour? 30 mins including ads leaves you people with hardly any time for anything.
* The track attempts were just about ok, and definitely can be improved.
* This is a repeat comment, but something which even i felt strongly against is how can anyone get back pain just driving for two hours on a luxury car?! Was the person not sitting properly?
|9th April 2008, 14:50||#52|
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People prefer a forum "by the public,for the public" instead of a magazine who might be biased in their opinion for foreign driving holidays, advertisements,etc..
|9th April 2008, 18:46||#53|
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Well, frankly there's various kinds of audience - TV shows probably need a broader base than us TBhp types alone - and the auto scene in India is at a stage where there are quite a few who a peripherally interested but not too deep into driving/cars/travel because of time/habit/monetary constraints. This is probably the market that WILL appreciate any half-decent show - and want some ready answers without looking for too much detail/hardcore testing etc. Quite like the F1 following, or the bike touring crowd. More aspirational and a few active/experienced. So I guess the show'll do just fine, and over time the market will mature and the audience will ask for more.
|10th April 2008, 00:33||#54|
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Finally watched the show, it was overall a good effort. However what was missing were the details and vocabulary, words such as incredible, awesome etc., were said way too many times which IMO made it a bit boring which it wasn't otherwise. We all know that each one of those 4 cars are amazing and incredible and the purpose of the show is to make the viewers get a feel about various other details that may not be able to be covered in the print magazine, however good the photographic skills are. I am very sure that all these minor issues would be sorted in the coming weeks, I for one would watch the show regularly and wish it becomes a big success, all the best Team OD.
PS: I have been reading OD from its very first issue and it was also my very first auto magazine.
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|10th April 2008, 10:26||#55|
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This tuesday I sat in front of the TV to catch the second edition of the show but to my dismay it was the first edition rerun .
|10th April 2008, 10:43||#56|
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Somehow I used to like the Speed Auto show due to the mix of reviews they used to show and the technical and to the point answers provided to the viewer's queries.
Hormaz was at his best while answering the queries and he used to answer them to the point and not vague. The query answered on the Diesel 10 - 15 Lakhs category looked like his own choice rather than the advice given.
I rememeber, I used to get up on Sunday and used to get ready for my morning tea while watching Speed auto show at 10.30 am. It doen't look like I would do that any more for OD show.
There is surely something missing from the show or they are experimenting too much.
Anyways best luck OD for the next line up.
|11th April 2008, 00:41||#57|
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On the contrary, we have the humble urban dwellers, who aren't as well versed enough in the field to make a decision for themselves, and look towards professionals for advice. For them, these professionals are represented by experienced journalists, whom they think will be able to deliver a verdict based on their first hand experiences with cars on the market- rather than an online forum where not all members would have experienced all cars in a particular class firsthand, for a long enough time, which in turn would mean five different POVs for five different cars- and lets admit the fact that as owners, we all have biases towards a car/brand we own to different extents, again a major blind spot when it comes to answering someone else's question and deciding the one which fits the bill for the same.
But on the other hand, people who had missed the pilot episode got an opportunity to watch it.
P.S. Will be uploading the pilot episode soon, so many who have missed it could view it and post what they think about it.
|11th April 2008, 01:17||#58|
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In my opinion you should better focus only on one type of viewer ;i.e; the enthusiast. And wasn't this the main purpose of the show itself to be an enthusiast show and not the old auto show in a new package. Please refrain from using the auto show for any sort of comparison. Even if you want to target the urban dweller do it by making automobiles entertaining(tracks, power slides,do unique things related to cars ) for the common viewer, atleast this is what TG does, and so well that people even remotely interested in automobiles watch it.
|11th April 2008, 10:18||#59|
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I haven't tuned into any Indian produced automobile program, because these people cannot use proper audio engineering techniques (and products), and consequently the audio quality is horrible. Then they put some pathetic 'edgy' music (compressed MP3 file, pirated from the internet) on top of it so that the entire program goes to gutter.
I'd much rather hear pigs squeal, with the side benefit that chances of disinformation and propoganda are minimized!
Anyone seen this program can comment if this show is any different? I do not have any hope from Indian producers/technicians, they all seem universally incompetent. Perhaps if someone is smart enough to import some experienced guys from west (NRI or firangi), then things might be different.
PS: Let's not even talk about the camera work!
EDIT:: I do think that attempting a Top/Fifth Gear type presentation is inherently unsustainable since there are only so many interesting vehicles plus location in India, you'll run out of steam soon. Besides to get Top Gear quality you have to spend Top Gear type money on products and post processing. Either one spends the money, or keeps shut about benchmarking against those standards. A Suzuki800 will never be an IS350, no matter how much they try to 'emulate' the standards....and I am being polite here.
Use Hinglish and stop pretending to be something you aren't. A more straight talking, desi approach that connects to the junta will be successful, because that is what Top Gear is in Britain for the British -and western- audience.
We aren't British/English, although many 'educated' types try very hard, even mimicking the accents....The reason why TG/FG are popular is primarily because the presenters come across as authentic characters rooted in their local culture and not forced actors, a universal failing of all Indian automobile programs.
Indians are too afraid of using local languages and cultural references lest they be judged as 'inferior'/'uneducated' by their peers, the program that changes this will go on to be a huge hit.
In its present form this program can be safely classified as: FAIL.
|11th April 2008, 10:38||#60|
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Slightly . The OD website is not updated for ages now. The Volvo XC90 is hogging the front page for more than 3-4 months now. Only the OD forums seem to show some activity.
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