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View Poll Results: Stocks as a percentage of my net assets are -
0 - 25% -- I'm like the most conservative Indians. I love FDs. 219 31.97%
26 - 50% -- I have a few stocks. 303 44.23%
51 - 75% -- I'm an active trader. 113 16.50%
76 - 100% -- Hey, I'm an i-banker!!! 50 7.30%
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Old 22nd January 2008, 07:55   #211
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One basic doubt guys. If a MF has a value date of say 21st Jan 2008, what price on that date is is chosen? The value at the time of opening the trade or the value at the time of closing the trade? With Sensex tanking over 1400 points, that would make a HUGE difference right?
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Old 22nd January 2008, 10:04   #212
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NSE crashed by 12% and circuit breaker applied and market closed. it is 4578 form yesterday close of 5208
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Old 22nd January 2008, 10:05   #213
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15750 - I say the market has now reached the perfect point in terms of valuation. Get your shopping lists out boys - its time to hit the market with a vengeance .
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Old 22nd January 2008, 10:07   #214
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It may go down to 14K
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Old 22nd January 2008, 10:14   #215
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We really cant "play" in a stock market right?!?!?
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Old 22nd January 2008, 10:17   #216
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LOL.. I am not going to open my brokerage site and look at my portofolio.. It must have gone from 20k profit to 20 k loss atleast

But yes, as Normally crazy said, this is the right time to buy.. when everyone else is going crazy and beserk.
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I would still wait and watch. Hope the FM comes out and says something about economy and hope the sensex will go up. Actually, I'am praying.

Hope one more Harshad Mehta? OR maybe MDAL might be doing this as ADAL will be richest person if RPL IPO is listed.

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Old 22nd January 2008, 10:33   #218
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Support Levels for BSE : 15800 - 16000. If this support is Broken, Welcome to Bearish Market

NIFTY Support Levels: 4500 - 4600.

As rightly said, wait to get your shopping list now.
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BSE: Its is already broken (15576) and the trading is halted for an hour as it has reached lower circuit.
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Hope the FM comes out and says something about economy and hope the sensex will go up. Actually, I'am praying.
Conspiracy Theory - anyone ? And from what I heard from an insider friend of mine, it sure seems like one.
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Old 22nd January 2008, 10:45   #221
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It will go down further. I am reading a further correction of 1000 points on BSE. Keep your shopping list ready. Buy Buy Buy. Then sit pretty for the next week or 2 and then SELL SELL SELL. Make money guys. This is where you get to pay for your Car, House, Gadgets.
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Did Soros thump the market last week?

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1146424

Two basket-selling deals in Nifty — of 21 lakh contracts on Friday, and 54 lakh contracts earlier in the week — hit the markets hard
-One entity said to be still short on 75 lakh Niftys
-Falling put-call ratio hints at bounceback

MUMBAI: Did George Soros short the Indian markets last week?
Over 15 years after he winningly shorted the British pound in September 1992 and earned a billion dollars, local market sources said one of his funds may have shorted the Nifty last week.
DNA Money could not independently confirm this, nor could it touch base with Soros’ operations in India.
But some senior marketmen, who did not wish to be named, said there were two cases of basket-selling last week which clearly was to break the market’s back.
“On Friday, this dealer shorted 21 lakh Nifty contracts triggering a late crash. The same entity had earlier shorted 54 lakh Niftys in the middle of last week,” one source said.
“What the entity doesn’t know is by shorting the Nifty it is trying to bring down heavyweights such as Reliance Industries, Larsen & Toubro and NTPC. This cannot go on. Right now, the entity is sitting on a short of 75 lakh Nifties. So further room for shorts is limited. There seems to be strong buying in Nifty at these levels too. That’s why you saw a premium on Nifty January futures,” the source added.
Nifty January futures closed at a premium of 25 points 5730.
A heavy open interest of over 4.5 crore shares on the Nifty near-month contract remains a cause for concern.
But a falling put-call ratio, analysts said, is a positive sign.

“Whatever the pain is, I feel it is over. The put-call ratio is at 1.04. From this level, I don’t see a huge downside. At the start of January series, we were looking at a range of 5700-6300 for the Nifty, Now that we have seen 5700 on the Nifty, this could well be the bottom for the market. I feel the recovery will be quick. You can see the January series ending with the Nifty at around 6200 levels,” says a senior derivatives analyst from a local brokerage, who couldn’t be named because he’s not authorised to speak.
The Sensex crashed to its fourth biggest fall of 687 points in the last hour of trade on Friday, capping losses of more than 2000 points in about two weeks.
Investors who were anticipating the markets to remain strong, at least till the listing of the big-ticket IPOs, were caught off guard.
“The pain was felt after a long time,” said a dealer.
Are the bears done with tasting blood?
Ambareesh Baliga, vice-president, Karvy Stock Broking, expects some respite. “The US market had calmed down a bit after seeing lows. We could also see some bounceback here, too. I don’t see a full recovery, we may be up by a two-three hundred points on the Sensex. But, the mood is still bearish,” Baliga said.
Manoj Abraham, derivatives analyst with Brics Securities, said Nifty levels of 6200 may be difficult to achieve for now. “There was aggressive call writing around the 6000 levels. So, there may be some resistance around those levels. On the downside, we have not broken the 5678 levels for some time now. That should come as support. “
Abraham said the market could remain rangebound on Monday.
Players are also awaiting new-year allocations from foreign institutional investors (FIIs).
While fund managers maintain the allocation this year would be equal to last year’s, if not more, they don’t want to speculate on when the tap will open.
FIIs have net sold over Rs4,000 crore in January so far.
But these are early days, said R Rajagopal, chief investment officer, DBS Chola Asset Management.
“So FII selling of $2-3 billion can only be understood as a normal profit booking. 2008 would be another year of robust FII inflows, exceeding last year’s $16 billion,” he bets.

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Old 22nd January 2008, 10:51   #223
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It will go down further. I am reading a further correction of 1000 points on BSE. Keep your shopping list ready. Buy Buy Buy. Then sit pretty for the next week or 2 and then SELL SELL SELL. Make money guys. This is where you get to pay for your Car, House, Gadgets.
You never know. You might end up selling your car, house, gadgets to cover up the lose too...
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Old 22nd January 2008, 11:04   #224
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Exclamation I See FIIs !

Believe me, I see no single person but FIIs tanking the market down. And guess what, who opened the floodgates? No prizes for guessing it right, Mr Chidambaram. If I remember correctly, the rules were relaxed only last month for allowing FIIs to shortsell. And since then FIIs have been fleeing indian markets. But I see that isn't half the truth. They just braced the truth, we were overvalued. They first sold off their goods, and then they resorted to shortselling to make it reasonable.

For the uninformed, the FIIs can borrow amongst themselves to shortsell. So if FII called ABC Corp wants to shortsell a particular stock @ say 2000/- and FII XYZ Corp have those numbers are at 200 /-, ABC will borrow them from XYZ and sell it in the market and deliver them from XYZ account. At the end of their agreement period, ABC returns the shares at a much much lower price and in turn, make a short term good profit. And the best suited to do this were foreign FIIs. Since they had them at a lower rates, XYZ is not affected at all. In fact, as per arrangement, they made extra money which wasn't theirs anyway.

See, it's simple. And nobody saw it coming. Simple Economics.
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Old 22nd January 2008, 11:53   #225
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FII short selling is going to be allowed from Feb 1, 2008. so as of now they can not do it.
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