When will this happen in India?

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Originally Posted by amit

When will this happen in India ?

[amit]

Originally Posted by vivekiny2k

seriously, we are comparing two totally different economies, cultures and overall situations.

What has economy, culture got to do with this? It's about the law which can be just, fair and equal even in an underdeveloped economy. Besides, don't Indian's keep harping on how our culture is so much more superior then western culture?

if 90% of population does not have access to 4 wheelers, can we keep them off the roads to let remaining 10% drive peacefully on it?

This isn't about keeping non car owners off roads. The 90% have full right to use the roads BUT that doesn't mean they can jaywalk or cycle anyhow they like and then cry that they are mowed down by rich spoilt brats.

but this sort of thing doesn't always happen in the US. pedestrians and cyclists are also in many occasions given the benefit of the doubt.

True. But are car owners ALWAYS termed guilty for any and all accidents involving pedestrians, cyclists and bikes?

[vivekiny2k]

Originally Posted by amit

What has economy, culture got to do with this? It's about the law which can be just, fair and equal even in an underdeveloped economy. Besides, don't Indian's keep harping on how our culture is so much more superior then western culture?



This isn't about keeping non car owners off roads. The 90% have full right to use the roads BUT that doesn't mean they can jaywalk or cycle anyhow they like and then cry that they are mowed down by rich spoilt brats.

Laws are are a reflection of the needs of a society and culture. We do not have laws on homosexual rights because we have needed them on a large basis, right? neither do we have social services scouting homes to find abused children because we hardly have a serious case of REALLY abused child as in west.

what do you mean 90% have full right to roads but they can't Jaywalk or cycle anyhow they like? going by numbers, more than half of the lanes should be reserved for two wheelers and cyclists in india, don't you think?

I am totally against blaming the bigger vehicle, but if we stop expecting traffic sense of developed countries, accidents will reduce anyway. We DO NOT have enough roads and we have too many pedestrians and two wheelers to enjoy our roads. We can't not compare ourselves to americas and europe.

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Originally Posted by amit

True. But are car owners ALWAYS termed guilty for any and all accidents involving pedestrians, cyclists and bikes?

Not guilty, but accused.

We can always fight the accusation in court. Problem is, we never will. We never can. It is less expensive, in terms of money and time, for us to say "pleading guilty your honour" and pay the fine. As an exception, Xinome, one of our members, is fighting a false accusation and there is a thread on it. (but then, he is a heavyweight - pun unintended).

The moment it becomes feasible, in terms of TIME (damn the money, it will always come and go), we will have the courage to standup and say "not guilty your honour" and fight the matter.

For this to happen, we need more courts. 15 years back, the law commission of India found that given the population and economic activity in India, india has 1/10 (one tenth) of the number of courts than we require. In past 15 years, the economic activity (and therefore, the amount of litigation) has gone up at least 4 times. Now, how many more courts would we require?

The question therefore is, how many of us realise that next time a politician comes asking for votes / donations*, we can always ask him that he should take the initiative to set up more courts. (the magistrates and lower courts, NOT the high court benches they are asking for in several places, because it is magistrates who decide these kinds of things; High courts are for politicians themselves.). A large number of us are salaried people, but a significant of us are into business, and don't deny it - we make political donations. Please ask for more courts in returns for your political donations.

[amit]

Incident no. 2: Mom, Child struck by SUV crossing an east end street.

Police said the woman had just gotten off a city bus when she pushed the stroller out from between parked cars and into the path of the SUV.

Police said the collision occurred because the woman disregarded basic safety rules and should have crossed the street at a light or crosswalk.

Source: CTV Toronto.

In India, the headlines would be "Speeding SUV RAMS / MOWS DOWN Mother, baby daughter.

[anujmishra]

Originally Posted by amit

Incident no. 2: Mom, Child struck by SUV crossing an east end street.

In India, the headlines would be "Speeding SUV RAMS / MOWS DOWN Mother, baby daughter.

Well, all things leads to use of technologies. We are far behind those developed world in terms of usage of technology in day to day work. In developed countries CCTVs are present in almost all important place. But in India we do not have so.

In developed countries everybody feels that rest of people have road sense and they follow religiously. But here we even not sure of ourselves that we have proper road sense.

One case also happened to my office colleague 2 years back in South Korea, when he tried to cross road where there was not zebra crossing. Result a speeding car came and hit him and he died on the spot.

You say, whom to blame ?

[vijit.gangwar]

Why do we even bother discussing such issues knowing fully well something like this will never happen in India.