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Old 2nd September 2008, 10:41   #1
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Did not want to start a new thread so posting my query here as it is related to jobs

Decided to open a thread as my post in other thread may go unnoticed.

I have been offered a job in following organizations:
1. IBM Software labs - pune
2. Atos Origin - pune

I was not able to get enough info on Atos origin as its facility in Pune is new and I hardly know anybody working in Atos. Could you guys please help me understand about Atos in following fields:

1. Work culture and work quality
2. Onsite opportunity for C,C++ resource
3. Long term/Short term onsite
4. I have been offered - System analyst role. I have 4 years exp. in C++. Is it ok?
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Go for IBM - no brainer, you get a brand on your resume. Decent culture etc.

Atos - you might have more responsibility but it all depends on how well the company is managed and whether a clear business strategy is in place. Also small companies work on unrealistic shoestring budgets especially if you have to fend for yourself overseas.

With the oncoming recession, I would think twice unless you are going to gain major skills or work on something that excites you
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If i were given the option, i would have no second thoughts but to go for IBM. The brand name speaks for itself and will look great on any CV
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AO seems to be Europe based. So if onsite=USA for you, then IBM will be a better choice.

I prefer companies that are just starting. You do get some early-bird advantages. Unless of course the company wants to hire 10000 people in next 2 weeks (like accenture)

If working abroad is your main objective, it is better to go thru consultants/bodyshops than thru IBMs.
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IBM as Atos dosent pays like them and work pressure is bit more over there.
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I work at IBM and can vouch for the fantastic work culture in the organization. However, this is my first job so can't compare it to anything.
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Ok guys let me be more specific: I would like to go onsite. Let it be Europe or US. Any safe country will do

1. Atos: They said we have onsite opportunity but can not guarantee that you will be put in such project. Work will be in C/C++. Which domain that can not be shared

2. IBM ISL: Total offshore job. Pay is good than Atos. Work is in C and is good. I have heard horror stories about ISL that they even put you in testing.

Just wanted to know more about Atos as I do not have any direct contacts there. Its a french company and has huge presence in Europe. Your comments are most welcome.
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Neo, have you thought about directly going onsite thru some consultant/bodyshop route. If you are 'good', this is probably the shortest route. If you have a bro/buddy there, it will be much more easier.

Trying go onside thru IBMs and the like is something I would totally avoid.
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I did not try that just because of initial investment in visa n all. Also once I return I would be having job with the company that sends me onsite. So more or less want to be secured in all aspects.

I wonder we do not have any Atos emp on board. I heard good things about Atos but never from a direct friend. IBM does not have any onsite as I would be joining their products division.
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I am from Mumbai and Atos has a BIG brand name here. They are one of the top companies and getting that brand on the resume means a lot here. In fact Atos is doing better than most of the biggies in terms of growth.

I think they were one of the the official sponsors of the Beijing Olympics (they setup the IT for the Olympics - everything).
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Anybody from Atos who can comment on the projects in pune and onsite opp for C++ ?
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Atos Origin is a former Philips group company and is known for great work culture. Check Atos Origin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So it depends whether you want a big brand (and being one among thousands there) or a medium sized brand (and being one among hundreds)
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Guys, one update:

I have joined Atos Origin from this Monday. Took this dsecision because of onsite opportunity. Future looks good here as far as onsitre is concerned. My first love is a product based company as I worked on a product in my previous company for 3+ years. Work is any day good in product based company. Will surely get back to IBM ISL/any full fledged product company once I am done with onsite
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