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Old 6th August 2009, 22:54   #271
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My younger son a speech problem, he hardly says a word at 2.5 years. After getting thoroughly disappointed with local facilities, we have planned to seek further help in Bangalore. If we were still living in Bangalore, we could have got high quality help almost a year back. Now we will have to visit Bangalore regularly for this and it is going to be a logistics nightmare for my family.
Yes,its a real problem,thank you very much for that reason that you have shown the right atitude as an educated person at the right time to get the disease dignosed earlier and treated.
There is a psychiatrist in this Forum (sorry I forgot his user ID-you can search by finding the posts of me-I have a single post for him)-the first thing you can do is search him and ask his opinion?

To quench my academic thrist,I will ask you few questions:
1)The child is a girl or a boy?

2)Does she /he looks her hands all the day long or such have any such stereotype behavior?

3)Does he/she likes to look at rotating objects for long time?

4)Is the child forgetting the skills which she learned before? (Like dressing up him/herself,spoon feeding)

5)This question is about his mother:How the child was delivered?(caesarian /normal delivery/forceps) and did the doctors made any special comment about the newborn at that time?(Like Baby cried later,was sent to nursery for Special Paed check up)

6)Did any doctor made any diagnosis of this condition?

Mention the answers of these questions to him (you can mention my post/user id)

It is very important to treat the child immediately for normal developement as far as the differential diagnosis are comming in my mind.Dont get tensed,but take it as the first priority for now.
I am looking for the answers.

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Old 7th August 2009, 01:57   #272
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It's basically caused due to plaque buildup and possibly stagnated food in the empty tooth socket since you are not brushing on the operated site (and are not to brush till stitches are out). Wasn't any mouthwash prescribed to you?

An ideal antibiotic course should have lasted you atleast 5 days. What was prescribed to you?

DONT use hydrogen peroxide as yet.

If i get it right, it's been four days now since your extraction.

Start rinsing with betadine mouthwash diluted 1:2 with water (one part betadine and 2 parts water) after every meal and before bedtime. Don't worry if you spill this dark solution on your clothes, it's water soluble.
Thanks Doctor.
Antibiotics prescribes are
1.Staph AC - 6 tablets 1-1-1
2.Dolomex DT-4 tablets 1-0-1
3.Zincovit-10 tablets 1-0-0
4.Anxito.5M -2 tablets 0-0-1 (Not clear.he said this is a sleeping pill)

I did the extraction on Sunday morning so this is 5th day.

Today only, i realised that the bad smell is coming from mucus.that is my nose gets congested frequently and while blowing out my nose the smell increases tenfolds so smelled my hand kerchiff to confirm if mucus is the culprit.Yes it is.

What an awful smell it has got!!! Since the nose is congested all the time it feels like as if i am sitting in drainage all the time with rotten eggs everywhere.yuck.

Please help me...I am not sure if i have to visit the dentist again or an ENT specialist.

I am using salt water gargle after every meal. Is that sufficient?
and also can i use Listerine instead of Betadine?

Thanks a lot for your reply.

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by defination urologist is a surgeon. the counterpart of medicine is Nephrologist who is D.M. / D.N.B (Nephrology). to my knowledge there is no DM / DNB (Urologist) for Nephrology. Also for surgerical superspecialities degree is either M.Ch / DNB..this is not right (by@abhishek_bmw).Nephrologist=M.B.B.S. + M.D.(General Medicine) + D.M./D.N.B.(Urologist)this is correct (by @tsk)MBBS+MD(Medicine)+DM(Nephrology)
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Amalgam:

Cons: Newer concerns regarding mercury in the filling which may cause toxicity (highly debated topic)
I have the silver filling (5 tooth) for more than 15 yr & its scary to read what you have mentioned. Fillings are holding good, if I wanted to covert them into ceramic fillings, do they drill out and refill.. How safe/good is that? Initial cost is fine given the long term ill effect (atleast stop now n be safe than sorry ). Your take

Consumers for Dental Choice - working for mercury-free dentistry / safe dental fillings - More info

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Surprise, this is quite an old controversy now.

I don't think my Chennai dentist uses mercury amalgam for fillings at all. I don't know if he does small repairs to mercury fillings.

The main thing that you should be aware of is that, if you choose to have your mercury-based fillings removed, the removal will release more mercury into your system than years of leaving them undisturbed. My guess would be that, after such a long time, they are probably pretty stable by now, and best left as they are, until failure or some other treatment means they need replacing.

I'm not a professional, of course, just someone with an interest in this subject of amalgam fillings. I've talked to fanatics about it (there's plenty; it's one of those subjects), I've talked to someone who believes (and the British NHS accepted it) that she was made seriously ill by it, and I've talked to several dentists about it. I've also heard from dental nurses (assistants) about the dangers to them of handling the stuff.

I have chosen, where possible, never to have new mercury fillings in my mouth for some decades (even though this was sometimes an expensive decision as I could not then have the relatively cheap British NHS treatment), I took it seriously, but not that seriously.

As to how much mercury is acceptable, in many fields, I think the safe level is set at zero! Some Health and Safety authorities in the world are concerned at the amount of mercury vapour released when a CFL bulb is broken!

Hmmm... at school, we used to delight in spilling the stuff, and poking around those wonderful silver globules.

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Hmmm... at school, we used to delight in spilling the stuff, and poking around those wonderful silver globules.
totally man - we even stole some from the physics lab to play around with at home
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I have the silver filling (5 tooth) for more than 15 yr & its scary to read what you have mentioned. Fillings are holding good, if I wanted to covert them into ceramic fillings, do they drill out and refill.. How safe/good is that?
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The main thing that you should be aware of is that, if you choose to have your mercury-based fillings removed, the removal will release more mercury into your system than years of leaving them undisturbed . . . until failure or some other treatment means they need replacing.
Unless you fracture the filling or there is secondary decay below the filling, don't bother to remove it. Just don't get any new ones done.

Your dentist needs to have a high vac suction while drilling into amalgam which will suck the mercury vapor preventing harm to you but spilling all of it into the drainage and eventually into the sea. And so the cycle begins.

Very recently a law has been passed in america that every clinic will need a special mercury filtration system installed. When it comes to india and when will dentists willing install it, is anyone's guess.
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I am enjoying my smug, self-satisfied glow.

It never lasts... I'll be talking rubbish again soon!
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Your dentist needs to have a high vac suction while drilling into amalgam which will suck the mercury vapor preventing harm to you
I had this done to one tooth, by a dentist who specialised in alternatives treatments and stuff. She also used some sort of plastic "damn" to stop me breathing in the vapour, and followed the treatment with homeopathic prescription. (She was very beautiful, the only dentist I've ever met who could give injections you didn't notice, let alone feel, and I adored one of her nurses. It was quite a practice! See what I mean about talking rubbish!)

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but spilling all of it into the drainage and eventually into the sea. And so the cycle begins.
And wasn't it in the news within the few days that all fish in America are mercury-contaminated?
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Very recently a law has been passed in america that every clinic will need a special mercury filtration system installed. When it comes to india and when will dentists willing install it, is anyone's guess.
Yes, that America...

Curiously, one of the things that the anti-amalgam lobby (to which I loosely belong) will tell us is that, when amalgam fillings were first introduced, many medical people were of the view that it was madness!

Of course, one's ayurvedic medicine might just have some mercury in it too... It's a confusing world!
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@Thad E Ginathom
As far as I know, it is Sidha medicine which uses Mercury.
Description of the Homeopathic dentist was really hilarious.
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The main thing that you should be aware of is that, if you choose to have your mercury-based fillings removed, the removal will release more mercury into your system than years of leaving them undisturbed. My guess would be that, after such a long time, they are probably pretty stable by now, and best left as they are, until failure or some other treatment means they need replacing.
Thank you the detailed reply.

Can you please throw more light on it how does the mercury get into the system while removing it. Do you mean to say that while drilling out it will go via throat.. sorry if its a stupid question d
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I am really not an expert, but think of a piece of wooden furniture that you have had for years. You don't expect to get new-wood smells, like sap and resin, from, it, do you? But take a saw to it, and expose the wood you never see, and it will look like it just came from the timber yard! This is not only part of the magic of wood as a material, but an analogy for our mercury fillings. The "loose" mercury near the surface has gone, and negligible amounts are being given off, but if you cut into it, fresh "metal" is exposed. The fact that the tools your dentist is using are drilling and grinding that material mean that dust is being released, some of which may be inhaled, some of which may be swallowed --- but I think that the greatest danger is thought to be from the vapour released bythe friction, which can be inhaled and absorbed into the blood.

Actually, someone once told me (hearsay warning!) that swallowing mercury is actually not that dangerous, as, in metal form, it is not much absorbed by the digestive tract. I'm not trying it!

Err... Mercur miscellany:

--- Mercury freezes at -40C. it also freezes at -40F. By coincidence, this substance that most of know in thermometers, marks, with its freezing point, the temperature at which Centigrade and Fahrenheit coincide

--- Mercury disolves a numebr of other metals. This is what an amalgam is, a solution in mercury of another metal. In your teeth, I think it is tin, which I guess is also poisonous!

--- Jewellers used to use a bowl of mercury for removing a tightly stuck ring. As it started to disolve the gold, the ring would often split from released tensions. No, I don't know how.

--- Gilding used to be done with an amalgam of gold. wipe on the amalgam, put in a kiln to drive the mercury off and, wow! a gold-plated item! The pollution from this was so dangerous that it was banned.

Whoa!

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-- and mercury vaporizes very quickly. in fact in rasa-shastra (ancient indian alchemy, rasa means mercury), it is believed that if you can devise a method to keep mercury boiling without evaporating, you can make gold.

Similar to the saying like if you can stay in a graveyard with so many skulls and owls eyes and what not, you can gain mysterious powers. or the famous neil armstrong tale where the man will get some when boy the next door goes to moon. essentially meaning it's not possible. But there were many people i know who kept working on it for their lifetime, the ayurvedic alchemists.

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Thanks Doctor.
Antibiotics prescribes are
1.Staph AC - 6 tablets 1-1-1
2.Dolomex DT-4 tablets 1-0-1
3.Zincovit-10 tablets 1-0-0
4.Anxito.5M -2 tablets 0-0-1 (Not clear.he said this is a sleeping pill)

I did the extraction on Sunday morning so this is 5th day.

Today only, i realised that the bad smell is coming from mucus.that is my nose gets congested frequently and while blowing out my nose the smell increases tenfolds so smelled my hand kerchiff to confirm if mucus is the culprit.Yes it is.

What an awful smell it has got!!! Since the nose is congested all the time it feels like as if i am sitting in drainage all the time with rotten eggs everywhere.yuck.

Please help me...I am not sure if i have to visit the dentist again or an ENT specialist.

I am using salt water gargle after every meal. Is that sufficient?
and also can i use Listerine instead of Betadine?

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you have got a confirmed sinus infection.
no need to go to an ENT specialist.just visit your general physician and he will prescribe you certain antibiotics and anti inflammatories and advise you to take vapours.
please note that sinus pain can be referred to your upper teeth so dont mistake it for dental pain.
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One of my relative had undergone a thyroid test last week, following are Thyroid test results:-
Result Range
T3 98ng.dl (60-200)
T4 4.18 ug/dL (4.5-12.0)
TSH 30.72uIU/mL (0.30-5.5)

The person had viral fever a month back and had weight loss of 5 kg. Now the person weights around 40Kg.
A local doc said the results are not good. Plz advice and guide for further treatment or how to proceed.
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One of my relative had undergone a thyroid test last week, following are Thyroid test results:-
Result Range
T3 98ng.dl (60-200)
T4 4.18 ug/dL (4.5-12.0)
TSH 30.72uIU/mL (0.30-5.5)

The person had viral fever a month back and had weight loss of 5 kg. Now the person weights around 40Kg.
A local doc said the results are not good. Plz advice and guide for further treatment or how to proceed.
Since you have already shown a local doc, stick with his advice or go show a specialist (endocrinologist). Someone will have to clinically assess him before giving a treatment plan and not go by test results only.
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