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Old 26th October 2010, 15:31   #601
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During few recent flights I have had a similar pain in my forehead. It happens when the aircraft is losing altitude in preparation for landing. Starts off as a sharp piercing pain above my nose and spreads to the forehead. It feels like there are sharp spikes piercing me from within. It's very painful and quite annoying.I have to grab by head 'cos it feels like something inside may rupture. The pain gets alright soon after landing. I've been taking flights since I was seven but this has started to happen recently. A friend of mine who's a pilot said that it happens when one has a cold or blocked sinuses. Any expert opinions?

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I have a similar problem,excruciating pain in my right ear during take off and landings.This started 4-5 years ago when i had severe cold and sinusitis and during that week i was suppose to fly every day for 10-12 days.

I had an episode of otitis media around 10-12 years ago and keep getting ear pain when i have cold.

A senior ENT surgeon in Gurgoan has advised me to use ear buds during flights and this has solved my problem.
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as i said, pain killers specifically for sinuses helped me. Y'day i flew again and I took one an hour before flying and i was fine this time. a good night's sleep before flying seemed to have helped too.

I would like to know the explanation behind ear buds. I don't like to take madications when they can be avoided.

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I would like to know the explanation behind ear buds. I don't like to take madications when they can be avoided.

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Ear plugs are being refered to here. Since am a non-medico, cant tell you the exact logic in scientific terms.. but am being told that its because of some pressure variation thing that effects the ear, and hence are recommended. If you ask for them, the crew provides you with a pair.
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Ear plugs are being refered to here. Since am a non-medico, cant tell you the exact logic in scientific terms.. but am being told that its because of some pressure variation thing that effects the ear, and hence are recommended.
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If you ask for them, the crew provides you with a pair.
Not in all the discount airlines. I think just taking some cotton & stuffing it into your ear may also work.
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I would like to know the explanation behind ear buds. I don't like to take madications when they can be avoided.

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Ear plugs are being refered to here. Since am a non-medico, cant tell you the exact logic in scientific terms.. but am being told that its because of some pressure variation thing that effects the ear, and hence are recommended. If you ask for them, the crew provides you with a pair.
My bad, I meant cotton.

Flying with a severe cold can also cause perforation due to changes in air pressure and blocked Eustachian tubes resulting from the cold. This is especially true on landing.

Perforation of the eardrum leads to conductive hearing loss.

Inserting cotton in to the ear helps in protecting the ear drum from perforation.

However,Flying in airplanes or helicopters is ill advised for a week to ten days to avoid more damage to the ear drum after an episode.
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Ok. This seems like a nasal enema. Does it help with the pain?
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There is a treatment called HBOT or Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy which has been found to be helpful for autism.

This treatment option is available in Mumbai and Delhi.

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Since this is a month long therapy, we prefer to do it in Bangalore. Any idea whether a Bangalore hospital offers HBOT?

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the problem I have with that explanation is that cotton (or any kind of plug) is not air tight. It will release the extra pressure within a few seconds.

besides, I am possibly talking about nasal pressure, not ear pressure.


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There is a treatment called HBOT or Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy which has been found to be helpful for autism.

This treatment option is available in Mumbai and Delhi.

Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy,Apollo Medical Treatment,Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy,Apollo Medical Treatment Hospital

Since this is a month long therapy, we prefer to do it in Bangalore. Any idea whether a Bangalore hospital offers HBOT?
From what I have heard, it's in early stages of research, and also that HBOT carries risks similar to deep diving. I hope you have done all your research.

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From what I have heard, it's in early stages of research, and also that HBOT carries risks similar to deep diving. I hope you have done all your research.
There is no definite cure for autism, so most parents tend to try lot of things. Especially when one parent says it has worked for them.

Has any doctor heard of HBOT facility in Bangalore?

We know about the existence of a HBOT facility at Institute of aerospace medicine, Bangalore. But I don't think it is open for civilian patients.
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Default My dad's experience with heart attack/blockage

Here I want to share my Dad's experience with heart attack/blockage and want to give some important information which many of us are not aware.

My dad had a minor attack and he was admitted to hospital for emergency treatment. After one week of treatment doctor gave the discharge and asked to do the angiography. And further treatment was advised after the angiography report. Dad had done the angiography and the blockage shown was 95%.

The angiography was done in one of the reputed hospital and doctor suggested to perform the bypaas or angioplasty as soon as possbile. We were very tensed. I gave a call to my close friends to have advice. We decided to show the report to another reputed hospital but they also adviced to do the bypaas or angioplasty immidiatly.

Then one of my friend gave us the reference to Dr. Tulfule and told us that he is very honest. When we met Tulfule he turned the whole thing other way. He said there is no need to perform any bypaas or angioplasty and told us that only medicine can cure the blockage. We came back to home with the medicine and some releife.

But still we were not convnsed, how 95% blockage can be treated with the medicine, then why people do the bypaas or angioplasty. I did a lot of search on google but did not found anything which can be informative for such situation.

Next day we called Dr. Tulfule for the next appointment and we said that we want clear understanding about why surgery is not neccessary, when other doctor suggested to perform immidiate surgery. Tulfule is very helpful and calm person, he gave us the last appointment for the day so that he will have enough time to explain us.

Now this is very important for every body to know. What he says that there are three type of veins which goes to the heart. The first type of the vein is less important for the heart, even 99% blockage does not harm the heart and can be treated with the medicine. 2nd type is the important vein and 3rd type is the most important vein. And according to report, my dad had a blockage in less important vein.

3rd day I get a call from my friend and he gave a reference of Doctor Sanjay Patil from Nasik. His close relative had done the treatment from Sanjay and recovered from sever attack. The hospital name is Heart's Sanjivani Center, located in Satana near Nasik.

We gave call to doctor Sanjay Patil and he convenced us to come to his treatment. After a lot of discussion we finally decided to have treatment in Sanjivani Center. Doctor said the patiant has to be admitted for 45 days in the hospital.


This hospital is totally different then usually we see. The first thing you will observe is the lifestyle change in the petiant's life in hospital. No TV, no news paper, food is provided by the hospital, no outside food is allowed, the campus is in very calm location. Activiy start from the early morning 5 AM with light Yoga and education program and many more, All the employees in hospital speaks very softly and calmly with the petiant. The recovery is totally depends on severty and health of the petiant.

The treatment is done by the intravenous drip lasting about 3 hours. The number of drips depends on the severity of the disease. There were 50 petiant admitted when my dad had done the treatment.

My dad recovers within 15 days of treatment.

More on the treatment : Welcome to Sanjivani Heart Centre :
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Hi Pawan : indeed delighted to know that your father is doing good now. Really want to highlight one thing here, every doctor has his own way of treatment.

I can recall my incidence, when my father was in hospital for a month for unknown reason of fever. Consulting inhouse doctor gave him many medicines including generation IV antibiotics, however fever wont buzz.

Ultimately we had to admit him to Kamineni hospital, hyderabad. Dr. Sastri , asked us to stop all medications immediately and has given us only one/two tabs daily. Surprisingly, my father recovered in a week.


I had consulted Dr Sathe for my father. Many people told me that he is a reputed cardiologist in Pune. Problem is when a doctor is reputed/famous , you really need to chase them for their time.
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Alternate therapies are indeed catching on in a big way nowadays, I hope your dad recovers soon.
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Thanks for sharing Pavan.

What really caught my eye is :
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The first thing you will observe is the lifestyle change in the petiant's life in hospital. No TV, no news paper, food is provided by the hospital, no outside food is allowed, the campus is in very calm location. Activiy start from the early morning 5 AM with light Yoga and education program and many more, ......speaks very softly and calmly
I'd add - NO mobiles / laptops / internet etc (dare i say no automobiles as well) to the above list.

'Perfect' natural healing !
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U don't need an ENT specialist to explain this. Let me try

Our ear (like all other body parts) has a marvellous mechanism.
The sound energy vibrates the ear drum and is converted into mechanical energy. This is then passed via the ossicles (tiny bones) into the Cochlea, where it creates ripples in the fluid, converting this mechanical energy into hydraulic energy. The cochlea is lined by very fine hair like sensors (different types for each frequency). These then move by the ripples depending on the sound and convert it into electrical impulses, which are then transmitted to our auditory (hearing) centre in the brain via chemical reactions.
That is when we hear a sound !!!
(The balancing mechanism of the ear is even more complex !! )

Amazing isin't it ??!!

Now the eardrum cannot move unless the pressure is the same on both its sides.
But as it is sealed to prevent fluid / organisms from entering, some other option is needed.
It is for this reason that the Eustachian tube is present. It lets the inner part of the ear communicate with the atmosphere via the nose.

The candies that were served during take off served a very important purpose . . .
Sucking and swallowing movements of the mouth and palate during take off and landing cause the eustachian tube to open up. This brings the pressure in the inner ear at the same level as that in the cabin and there is no discomfort.
If u do not do this or if u have a cold or had one a few days back, the secretions block the tube, not letting the pressure in the inner ear get equalised with the cabin pressure (even with candy).
As a result the eardrum either bulges outward or is pulled inside depending on the difference in pressure. When this happens, it does not vibrate and u cannot hear sounds clearly. Also the stretching causes pain and a felling of blockage.
As it is a purely mechanical obstruction, drugs are useless.

Options . . . .

- Do steam inhalations before a flight if u have a tendency to get pain or if u have had a cold. this will loosen the secretions and clear the eustachian tube.

- Do not blow a blocked nose with one nostril closed before a flight. This will drive the secretions the wrong way, up the tube, blocking it and increasing the chances of getting pain.

- Carry hard candy / chewing gum and have it during take off and landing. Yawning also helps.

- If yawning or swallowing doesn't help, another useful method is to take a breath
and then with your mouth closed, pinch your nostrils closed with your fingers, and try to blow air through your nose gently

- Avoid sleeping during take off and landing (so u can do the procedures mentioned above) - ask someone to wake you up before the plane starts to descend, and wake any children travelling with you.

- Give a baby a feed or a pacifier to suck on during take off and landing.

- If none of the above work THEN show an ENT specialist.

BTW, I work as a Corporate Medical Advisor with IT companies and have about 20 yrs of experience.
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Docs - I've a question on using contact lens
All the contact lens have monthly, quarterly, half yearly & annual expiry. Though I cannot find out any difference in their appearance, shape, size or quality, why there's an expiry?

Also, what happens when we tend to use beyond the expiry date? Say an annually expiring lens extended the usage for a month or so? Will that be harmful in anyway? If so how? BTW, there're no spots in the lens or disturbances in vision on extended usage.

Please advice.

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@Pawan - I strongly agree with you. Couple of years+ back one of our relative (65+) had a massive stroke, second one to be precise & he'd been to this kind of hospital in KL. All of us were worried because he was well to do yet we expected him to be at some good hospital. He was also adviced on food diet (which he was already for several decades), yoga, meditation, tablets & herbals too. Needless to say, he walked out of hospital, rides Activa till date. He's more than strict with what Doc had adviced. Pls take of your Father well; Praying God for his healthy & long life.

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