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Old 23rd February 2009, 17:35   #76
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You have completely missed the point here.
And you are saying that the movie fed their appetite to see the pathetic conditions in India thats why they gave the movie the award.. right?

Please explain if its not that.

You are wrong if that's what you think.

I think you have never been out of India or met people who "know" India for what it is. And know its beyond slums and snake charmers.

Please do not base your understanding of the world on movies, if we have a westerner there having a mindset about us, we have Indians having mindsets about them.

Its a movie, what it is not is a lie to feed the westerners to make them feel better and give us awards lol.

And about delving deeper if you know something "deeper" regarding the pysche of Americans towards Indians please do let us know. It would be interesting to know how that got an Oscar for a movie involving life in India.

PS: If we have slums here, they have much more dangerous places in US, where drug running and crime is the order of the day.
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Honestly i dont understand why we Indians have a habit of running after west all the time for everything. Do we see any western actor or hollywood people running and dreaming for awards like Filmfare(IMO its the premier award for bollywood and Indian actors).
We actually have a habit of rating everything which is foreign as great and superior be it the clothes,cars,the awards etc. We ae going places as far as technology and development is concerned but the mindset is still of the 19th century.
Anyways guess this is going OT so cheers again for a very nice and humble musician - A r Rehman
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Well,

Being a musician, I have adored Rahman's style since Roja.

The kind of work which he has done in Roja, Gentleman, Thiruda Thiruda, Bombay, Taal is far superior than the music in Slumdog Millionaire.

To me, this man brought a revolution in music making and he will always be in the list of Legends in my Diary. For the world, Rahman is an acknowledged international talent and the Oscar has drawn the world's attention to his music. He is a marque today and India is proud to have a gem like him.

As far as Resul is concerned, he has created a history by becoming the first Indian to bag the best sound mixing Oscar for Slumdog Millionaire. His hard work has brought him well deserved world-wide recognition which symbolizes that even technically, India is at par with the rest of the world.

I give them a standing Ovation.

Jai Ho !!!


P.S - I miss Mr. H Sridhar who was a fantastic Sound Engineer / Technician, he was the man behind Rahman's sound from Roja to Ghajini. RIP Sir.

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Old 23rd February 2009, 18:01   #79
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Hay Guys ,After all it'a a movie and pls do not take this as THE show of India. With this Internet World ,Everyone knows or heard abt India in better view than thru movies..

So Let us take a moment and celebrate our Pride moment 3 for Indians (2 ARR..1 for.RP).

I started loving ARR music from his very first movie Roja. He deserves all the recent awards just for his humblenses and dedication .
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There is a saying in Punjabi
"Bhukke hatth Katora Lagiya Paani Pi Pi Aafreya"
Rehmans behaving as if he wrote the lyrics and he sung the song. When an award is given for best original score, the singer and the lyricist also deserve equal merit, but in this case Sukhwinder Singh and Gulzar have been totally ignored.
It shows that behind all that big facade, lies a man with heart of an ant.

The actual award function further exposed these idiots.
The real stars of the movie, the slum kids, and the lead hero are actually standing back, but Anil Kapur, who had a useless 2 bit role in the movie is all hyper as if he is the director producer lead and supporting acter and actress of the movie.

Shameful. Good they went to Oscars and exposed themselves. But I don't think anybody cares, since the sole aim for the existence of our bollywood film industry is an oscar, and now thankfully they can retire and spare us B grade movies which torture us every weekend.
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There is a saying in Hindi:

Jenne samjh na aava todh woh kya jana mol.

Translated: Those who dont know what it takes dont know its worth.
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I am happy to see A.R. Rahman make the classic Indian mistake of swapping the word "marriage" for wedding.
My signature explains why he hasn't mastered the language.
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P.S - I miss Mr. H Sridhar who was a fantastic Sound Engineer / Technician, he was the man behind Rahman's sound from Roja to Ghajini. RIP Sir.
Sridhar passed away? I never knew. RIP,Sridhar!
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When an award is given for best original score, the singer and the lyricist also deserve equal merit, but in this case Sukhwinder Singh and Gulzar have been totally ignored.
I knew this would come up.
Thank God, he mentioned Gulzar's name in the speech or it would have become very controversial.
Btw, I wonder if the Academy Award organisers invite the singer and lyricist to the ceremony so they could recieve it together with the composer.
PS: Tsk bhai,lets cut Rahman some slack for today.heh?
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@tanveer - Academy of motion picture awards for Best Original score are given to the composer and not to the lyricist\singer and its a known fact.I dont know what makes you think Gulzar was ignored.If you watched the awards function,they clearly stated the composer as well as the lyricist while announcing the nominations and did so even while announcing the award.

Though this is completely off-topic couldnt resist this one.We always used to get chain mails with topic "This can happen only in India" .Even this thread is an example to one such thing - Not appreciating a fellow person for something which he has achieved.
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@Raj- You are mistaken. Everyone appreciates Rehman and i think he is the most loved and talented musician in India. The point many people are making is he deserved it for better compositions way back as his best work is not SM.
@Tanveer- agree with you. My opinion- Anil Kapoor was absolute failure as the host(considering they showed KBC whose original host was Amitabh bachan and Anil is playing his character). He was over the top all the time and didn't looked way bit a KBC host.
For me real actors were those 2 kid brothers and other slum kids.

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Watch Gulzar's statement on TV. The Singer and the Lyricist deserved more. Esp the singer.
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while it felt geat to see ARR and others at the awards, it was really embarrassing to see anil kapoor enchanting indian movie industry, india etc in interview before the awards. not to mention forcing the young star duo to confess (and I mean really forcing) their chemistry off screen.
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Congratulations to the kids who probably must be thinking they are in dreamland now, especially the ones who made it to the awards ceremony. Great that Resul won it, the man was absolutely flabbergasted !!! Good for him. ARR was his humble self. They were all lost for words. Whatever said and done about the Academy of Motion Picture, Arts and Sciences Awards, they are considered by a large majority of the movie viewing world as the topmost awards and winning something like that can throw the best of them into a loop!

ARR did mention Gulzar, so thats good of him. He also thanked Peter Gabriel later on for exposing him and Nusrat to the external world !!
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This is a joke!

Rehman gets Oscar for Best original score for "Jai Ho", huh? The song at best is touch above average and absolutely nothing great. I am not sure if Rehman himself would honestly rate this in his Top 10. He is one of the best composers India has produced, but for all his creations, he gets Oscar for this one?

Same goes to Gulzar, even if he didn't get Oscar for Lyrics. Though I find his lyrics bit too abstract many times, he undoubtedly has composed few really great songs in past (anyone here remembers "Ijazat", the ultimate RD/Gulzar combo?).

This is undoubtedly great feat and recognition for Indian Cinema (is that movie really Indian other than few Indian folks working in it?), somehow it's feels shallow.

Alright enough said, go ahead and flame me!

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(is that movie really Indian other than few Indian folks working in it?),
Alright enough said, go ahead and flame me!
No! I for one, shall not flame you!
As they say: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Why does it take a Richard Attenborough or a Danny Boyle to SEE it?
Why can we not see it ourselves?

So now, flame me!!
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To be frank there have been many movies from the very own Indian cinema which have been better than this one. This is a hollywood movie with some Indian actors. I am really amazed that some individuals here are feeling personally offended at those who are not liking the movie.
IIRC some dude here was even posting things like some saying in hindi about those who can't do don't know what its worth. So according to this chappie, critics critisize because they cannot do, and nobody should critisize unless its done ourselves. There goes the entire movie critic press poof in a smoke! Great logic. I salute thee

BTW most people missed my point about Rahman.
When the director gets his oscar, he thanks his crew. The director of this movie asked all crew members to come on stage. I did not see Rahman thanking the singer of this song.
Moreover, the entire crew went along. Rahman could have taken the singer along, but he knew that if he had done so, then instead of him singing in his not so good voice, sukhwinder will sing the song on stage, and steal the limelight. Thats why he did not take him to oscars with him.

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