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Old 3rd July 2009, 19:40   #31
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Hey, this seems quite similar to what i experienced 10 years ago. But I visited a skin specialist. He prescribed Nizral shampoo and a dose of pencillin injection to be taken every day for 5 days.
What if one does not want to have an injection. I think my case is not so extreme, but dandruff is still there. When I remove with hands, there are some red spots forming. I am in no to visit a skin specialist.
Will any anti dandruff shampoo help in this case ?
What exactly are symptoms for this disorder ?
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Beginning:The only symtoms you can get is normal dandruff with or without red patches or dots around scalp or in one place. I had ignored this trying to handle it with our Dove antidandruff shampoo, which escalated the issue. Also I kept a long hair for 8 months which caused the fungus to grow with perfect comfort.
Medium: Excessive itching sensation, scaling of the scalp and increase of dandruff around the scalp or only in the patches. My case = only the patch has dandruff and scaling.
Advanced: Patches become very pinkish or reddish which means the fungus has spread and grown up to disaster. Excess hair fall leading to total scalp and eventually baldness with heavy red patches all around. Here is a picture from wikipedia:
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Candid TV shampoo, Nizral shampoo and Gillette shampoo with ZPT will help greatly. I am using candid TV on the patch and Gillette shampoo for whole scalp for every bath.

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Old 3rd July 2009, 21:19   #33
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You can use a shampoo called 'Fongitar'

I have Psoriasis, and it helps greatly. The shampoo is used for treatment of Seborrhoeic Dermatitis along with some other skin infections as well.
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shaju, this condition will increase with stress, and also on consumption of oily/spicy food.
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I have scalp Psoriasis, it is well under control now.Right now i am using KZ lotion which a friend recommended. It works for me well. One more thing which really helped me was exposure to sunlight. I sometimes sit in direct sunlight on the terrace for 15-20 minutes in the mornings. I have noticed that when i keep my hair short it is under control and it reappears when i start growing my hair.
One more thing i noticed is that, it cures by itself/reduces when i am in Bombay for a couple of weeks. When i am back in Bangalore it reappears. Must have something to do with the climate/humidity or the water.
I had been to a skin specialist a year back, but the condition became worse after i started the treatment with the medical shampoo ( protar ) which the doctor prescribed. One more thing which showed instant results was the application of " apple cider vinegar " on the affected areas. The flaking reduced to a big extent in a couple of days. The only downside is that it stinks and the smell remains for a long time on your hair.
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Even in my case, I really feel the place is making the difference. I keep getting skin infections, now this scalp fungus and all related stuff while being in bangalore. If I travel to Mumbai or Kerala and stay there for over a week, everything goes off just like that. May be the water also is acting as a cure. Somehow climate and water are directly connected to all these disorders. Its proved by many.
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Guys,
I have a colleague in Vizag Steel who lost most of his hair in his early thirties. And the reason was heredity---even his dad had suffered from heavy hair loss when he was in his thirties. So there is no point in coughing up hard earned money in trying to prevent baldness.
Male Pattern Baldness (MPB) is caused by the male hormones---so I guess we can interpret it as 'the more macho you are, the sooner you bald'

I've also read an article in Discover magazine in the mid 80s that said hairfall cure lotions were the biggest hoax the world over. It also stated that minoxidil, the newly-invented medicine for stopping hairfall, and in some cases causing re-growth also caused side effects that made a male look feminine----you know what I mean.

In some cases, however, dandruff causes severe hairfall. In my case, I started balding only after shifting to Hyderabad 7 years ago---could be due to pollution, hard water, and of course MPB . My dad passed away when he was in his early 70s, and he had no baldness at all----none of my uncles are also bald. But my elder brother in Calcutta is nearly 50% bald. So I guess the cause has more to do with the environment than with heredity----unless genes from the maternal side are responsible.
Therefore, instead of shelling out huge amounts on operations, I feel it is better to accept things gracefully. At most one can take precautions for dandruff by taking shower baths at least twice a week and with shampoo like Selsun or Himalaya anti-dandruff. Keo Karpin may also help.
That's my 2 cents!
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Therefore, instead of shelling out huge amounts on operations, I feel it is better to accept things gracefully!
That was a good suggestion in general. Sadly my worry is not about losing my hair or seeing myself as a bald man very soon, BUT getting rid of my fungus affected patch on the scalp as fast as possible.

Even I am against spending a fortune for that artificial hair thing on your scalp, but if some people want to enjoy that new look, there is nothing wrong in that too. Its one's wish and self satisfaction that matters more than money. For me, its a dandruff-free, fungus-free scalp with or without hair ! If hair is causing all my issues, I would prefer to shave my head throughout life.
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May be the water also is acting as a cure. Somehow climate and water are directly connected to all these disorders.
Hard water prevents agents like ZPT etc. from acting upon dandruff. I've had the worst dandruff of my life when I spent 15 days in Bangalore
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Oh, thats a painful comment. In that case, my Gillette ZPT should be going down the drain without any effect !!! I am asked to use it for every bath, and its the hardest water you can find in my house in the whole of south.

If you make tea or coffee from the tap water, you will think its a soupe. If you cook rice from the tap water, you will think its gone wrong while cooking. Therefore we use the Kent RO water for everything in the kitchen. But do they make a product for the bathroom ? Even if they make, think about the amount of water that would be wasted while getting the purified quantity. Its approximately 60/40 ratio through Kent (60% goes as waste water and 40% stores as purified).
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In that case, my Gillette ZPT should be going down the drain without any effect !!!
Sorry to say but that might actually be the case. ZPT/ZPTO is Zinc Pyrithione, the most common ingredient in almost all popular anti-dandruf shampoos (Clinic All Clear, Head & Shoulders, Pantene, etc.), and as you say, in Gilette as well.

Here's another fact:

Few Complaints filed with ASCI –

o HLL’s Clinic All Clear Dandruff shampoo claimed that it had ZPTO, the special ingredient in Clinic All Clear that stops dandruff. This claim was found to be untrue since ZPTO is a micro biocide, when in reality, dandruff is known to be caused by several other factors, besides, microbes. HLL’s multi-crore research wing ‘clearly overlooked’ this aspect. The advertisement has been withdrawn.


source: MEDIA LAWS - AN OVERVIEW - Author - Aparimita Basu, A Final year student of Symbiosis Institute of Mass Communication, Pune

The other popular ingredient is Ketoconazole, found in Nizral. Nizral is available in 2 strengths.

Another ingredient is found in Selsun shampoo, selenium sulphide, which is used to treat dandruff and seborrhoeic capitis (a greasy, crusting, itching scalp caused by excess oil)

And no, I don't own/run a chemist shop.

I've already stopped posting about supplements on the fitness thread, since some members reported I may have commercial interests. This is an exception.

Get well soon
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I've already stopped posting about supplements on the fitness thread, since some members reported I may have commercial interests. This is an exception. Get well soon
Ha ha ha, I know that well. But I was not in that crowd, we spoke on phone and I found you as a very helping guy without any selfish motives.

Whatever you typed about the dandruff reasons is theoretically correct and its the same what any trichologist would speak. Only issue here is the water difference from place to place. I might be using the best medicines and shampoos for the purpose, but if I bath in the worst water and continue to be in a fungus-supporting environment (person to person its different), I have no choices left !

Anyway, lets hope for the best !
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Ha ha ha, I know that well. But I was not in that crowd, we spoke on phone and I found you as a very helping guy without any selfish motives.
I know. Thanks for the kind words. Appreciate it
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I too have faced same hair fall problem long back, with density in upper area from front has gone down and hair fall was high, and i have consulted an dermatologist, he said, nothing can be done, and gave some vitamin tablet to delay it. But it didnt work,

i tried himalaya hair loss cream, twice but i was not satisfied
tried arya vaidya sala treatment with some oil and tablet, not satisfied

at last went for minoxidil solution with finast tablet which cost is high and i got headache once i applied it. but after applying for 3 months i didnt find any improvement, but money is going with hair.


atlast i got one place where i got two oils (ayurvedic) one for daily use, other for applying twice a week before bath, with vitamin B, and iron tablet daily. i feel hair density is good now, and hairfall have reduced. i am happy regarding hair after 5 years...

The specified oil is unbranded one, in an small glass bottle in less quantity around 30 ml. not even an label in it. since i am satisfied with its performance, i didnt bother about the name. I think its proprietary medicine of an hospital here.

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atlast i got one place where i got two oils (ayurvedic) one for daily use, other for applying twice a week before bath, with vitamin B, and iron tablet daily. i feel hair density is good now, and hairfall have reduced. i am happy regarding hair after 5 years.
Ayurveda has some wonder medicines for lot of cases that are not possible through allopathy. But, diagnosing the real problem can be done only by an expert, which is a hard to find. There are many with the board "Ayurveda" just to make a living and they will make you lose faith in the name itself. If one can find the right doctor, there is no more worries !

My issue was not hair fall, but fungus as explained in my previous posts. I lost faith in any of these so-called 'specialists'. Its a clean money making business and there is no better way one could lose hair and money without any end to it. By the time you realise its a problem which can not be sorted out, either your bank account will die or you will have to slog for few more years for the money you have just thrown for the purpose. Its sad.

Dear forum members, please come to this thread and post your experiences. I am sure there are plenty who have faced similar issues. Its a very useful thread, atleast it gives you a proper awareness of what is going around us.

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