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Old 1st June 2009, 18:12   #1
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I just read this:

PARIS: An Air France plane on its way from Brazil to Paris has gone missing with 228 people on board, the airline said on Monday.


Its last known location was unclear. Brazilian television said the Brazilian air force had started a search mission over the Atlantic Ocean for the plane.

Flight AF 447 has 216 passengers and 12 crew on board. It left Rio de Janeiro on Sunday at 7 p.m. local time and was expected in Paris on Monday at 11:15 a.m. (0915 GMT).

"Air France regrets to announce that it is without news from flight AF 447, which was flying on the Rio de Janeiro - Paris Charles de Gaulle route and was scheduled to arrive at 11.15 a.m. today (0915 GMT)," an Air France spokesman said.

An Air France-KLM spokeswoman in Amsterdam said there had been no radio contact with the missing plane "for a while".

The plane was an Airbus 330-200, according to the Paris airports authority website. Air France said relatives of people travelling on board flight AF 447 were being taken care of in a special area of Charles de Gaulle airport.
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Sad to hear about it.
Air France seems to be having a phase of bad luck these days.
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I really hope that the airplane is safe.

More reports pour in that the plane may have run out of fuel.

Maybe potential fuel leak, could also be pilot error in transferring fuel to the failed engine (if there was any) through the cross feed valve.

However, a similar airplane, Air Transat flight 236 lost fuel in mid-flight and was able to glide safely for more than 8 hours across the atlantic without any loss of life.

I hope that the backup support system called RAT or Ram Air Turbine can provide basic backup for plane's hydraulics to make it a safe landing. If that fails, the 2-engined A 330 is doomed.
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BBC is saying that the last communication from the plane stated short circuit after turbulence, and may have been struck by lightning.

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Just heard it over news.Feel really bad when hear something like that, knowng I need to fly an aircraft tomorrow.Certainly a bad year for aviation.
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However, a similar airplane, Air Transat flight 236 lost fuel in mid-flight and was able to glide safely for more than 8 hours across the atlantic without any loss of life.
Hi Sid, the airplane in question, Air Transat Flight 236, was in the air without both engines for a little less than 20 minutes (descent rate without engines is quite high ~ 1500 to 2000 feet/min). The airplane made an emergency landing in a military airbase in the Azores, well before its intended destination of Lisbon.
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I think the flight has gone down easily by now as it must have run out of fuel.

Otherwise it would have seen by any radar anywhere.

And finding the plane and recovery is very tough in sea.
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The aircraft is certainly down. All news reports are stating that it has cross the flight time for the fuel it had on board.

Hoping for the best, but ditching in the Altantic in a storm is just bad.
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Its unlikely that anything optimistic can be said at this point of time. My heart goes out for each one on board and their kith & kin. Still hoping for the best.
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Let's hope it is safe somewhere until we know for sure. But in these times saying that a plane disappeared without knowing where it went down is a little surprising.
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'goood' news to hear when i have booked a flight to paris this month .... !!

any updates on this....?
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God save them all. I hope each & every one makes it out alive.
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Confirmed now that the plane has crashed into the Atlantic. Probably hit by lightning according to Air France.
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Thats really sad! Sent a shiver through me. I was at the verge of cancelling my road trip and take a flight this weekend.

Modern aircrafts getting damaged by a lighting strike is a rare possibility though. They are usually well protected against fuel tank bursts and surge protection for electronic devices by design...Most of the time, the outer shell bears the brunt and they are highly conductive to skim the discharge across causing almost nil or minimal damage. But with natures fury, even the best man-made protection crumbles!!! :-(

If the flight crashed and the people onboard are indeed dead, may their soul RIP.

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there are a lot of possibilities as of now for the reason of the crash from the Lightening Strike,espionage etc.

As there was no communication from the pilot except some automated messages from plane regarding short circuit, so i'm sure some nasty happened and that too very very fast.

Airbus 330-200 has an excellant safety records and it is possibly a first Airbus 330-200 crash as per some Aviation experts

so we need to wait till they find the Blackbox and real reason for the crash can be uncovered.
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